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Old 1st March 2017, 14:33   #286
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If you go ayurvedic route, atleast do medical check up regularly to see whether it is working or not.

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Health & esp treatment during illness is a very personal choice. Regarding my relative, the family is consulting doctors and this is an additional step in their attempts to help the person. I will pass on any information I get and the decision will be theirs. Hope the path they take leads to at least some relief.
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When I discussed this with some of my friends, they all doubted the homeopathic medicine may contain steroids due to which pain is coming to control so fast. And many of them told this is common in homeopathy. Just to gain popularity, some doctors do this addition of steroids and try to reduce pain

Is this a fact ? If yes, where can I get the steroids test done for my medicines within Bangalore? Please suggest. Or should I just believe in Homeopathic medicines and go with them for next 4 months?
Disclaimer: Iam not a homeopath. Rather a trained Vet

Lets be rational. Lets assume Homeo medicines contain Steroids. OK. Steroid drugs are basically allopathic medicines. So what prevents Allopathic doctors from prescribing these steroids and cure patients?

I have practically experienced the benefit of homeo medicines twice. In another occasion it failed. The most important thing is identifying the correct homeo medicine.

When we buy homeo medicines of reputed brand like Schwabe/SBL etc, one can be sure they do not contain any steroids.

I personally do not believe this notion of homeo medicines containing steroids.
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Health & esp treatment during illness is a very personal choice. Regarding my relative, the family is consulting doctors and this is an additional step in their attempts to help the person. I will pass on any information I get and the decision will be theirs. Hope the path they take leads to at least some relief.
Absolutely, it is their prerogative. So are they looking at ayurvedic treatment to relieve from side effects of chemotherapy?

Please have a look at this place.
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Lets be rational. Lets assume Homeo medicines contain Steroids. OK. Steroid drugs are basically allopathic medicines. So what prevents Allopathic doctors from prescribing these steroids and cure patients?

I have practically experienced the benefit of homeo medicines twice. In another occasion it failed. The most important thing is identifying the correct homeo medicine.

When we buy homeo medicines of reputed brand like Schwabe/SBL etc, one can be sure they do not contain any steroids.

I personally do not believe this notion of homeo medicines containing steroids.
It is known fact, that Steroids are dangerous to human life and adds multiple other risks. Hence, Allopathic Doctors avoid steroids in all possible scenarios. Even if they prescribe, they (Allotpathic Doctors who are Specialists only)would (Or are expected to )take the calculated risk and suggest in very calculated quantity.

However, If a Homeopath adds steroids to his homeopathic medicine just to get name and fame and reduce pain, then, I consider this is a cheat because, he is putting patients life at risk because of following reasons:

1. Homeopathic medicinology is not about curing the disease by adding steroids
2. He does not even know what quantity, steroids are being added. He just adds some amount of white powder to white tablets, stirrs and gives to patients which is totally unscientific. (Allopathic medicines, does very high level of research and adds required quantity)

So, A Homeopath adding steroids is considered to be illegal.
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It is known fact, that Steroids are dangerous to human life and adds multiple other risks. Hence, Allopathic Doctors avoid steroids in all possible scenarios. Even if they prescribe, they (Allotpathic Doctors who are Specialists only)would (Or are expected to )take the calculated risk and suggest in very calculated quantity.
It is very widely used in allopathic practice. Almost all Asthamatic inhalers have cortison's. They prescribe even for kids

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However, If a Homeopath adds steroids to his homeopathic medicine just to get name and fame and reduce pain, then, I consider this is a cheat because, he is putting patients life at risk because of following reasons:
Yes you are right and it is cheating, but only if he is adding. We cant generalize without proper evidence. All this talk of Homeopaths adding steroids is hearsay. Till today, i have not across a news paper report or case being filed for this practice anywhere. If it is, so wide spread as alleged, by this time we should have had at least some cases.

Iam a trained allopath ( Veterinarian) and i do believe in Homeopathy. But homeo is not everything as some of the these practitioners want us to believe. It works in some cases, ayurveda is good for some and Allopathy is good in some cases.
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Hi, Bouncing this old thread on my query. Could not find a better thread to post my query. Request people to help/support

Since last 1 month, I am getting lower back pain and Allopathic medicine did not help much. Orthopedicians said, it is muscle spasms and suggested exercises along with physiotherapy and exercises. However it did not reduce the pain.

So, I tried Homeopathic medicines since last 2 weeks (Doctor said, it is Sciatica pain)and looks like it is coming to control. However, the doctor says, i need to continue with medicines at least for 4 months for complete cure.

When I discussed this with some of my friends, they all doubted the homeopathic medicine may contain steroids due to which pain is coming to control so fast. And many of them told this is common in homeopathy. Just to gain popularity, some doctors do this addition of steroids and try to reduce pain

Is this a fact ? If yes, where can I get the steroids test done for my medicines within Bangalore? Please suggest. Or should I just believe in Homeopathic medicines and go with them for next 4 months?
Well, you as patient are always vulnerable. Most companies want people to become cash cows for them. They spend lot of money in influencing and influencing the influencers. Be it their media management commenting on various forums or taking the Drs to foreign joy trips.

Many say even the ayurvedic medicines contain steroids. Had the legendry Liv52 not prescribed en masse in Russian and American hospitals, "They" would have spread Liv52 contains steroids too.

Your best help is the manufacturer reputation. You can ask the medicine name from your Dr. and buy it yourself from Dr Rekeweg's site. Monitor your vital parameters frequently while on medicines see how you are getting along.
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Had the legendry Liv52 not prescribed en masse in Russian and American hospitals, "They" would have spread Liv52 contains steroids too.
Can we take Liv52 without a prescription? Does it have any side effects?

Please advise!
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Can we take Liv52 without a prescription? Does it have any side effects?

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I am no Dr and not qualified to prescribe :-). Just learnt through experience.

Question why do you want it? Is your liver burnt out? Do you drink a lot.

You can consult an ayurvedic Dr on Lybrate or Practo app. Check their reputation. Take second opinion. It doesn't cost much on the app. They are good platforms to connect Drs and patients all over India.
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I am no Dr and not qualified to prescribe :-). Just learnt through experience.

Question why do you want it? Is your liver burnt out? Do you drink a lot.

You can consult an ayurvedic Dr on Lybrate or Practo app. Check their reputation. Take second opinion. It doesn't cost much on the app. They are good platforms to connect Drs and patients all over India.
No drinks. Sister has fatty liver.

So, the question.
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No drinks. Sister has fatty liver.

So, the question.
Liv52 is widely acknowledged liver support formula. However, I would suggest take Drs. opinion. Himalaya has a dedicated site for Liv52. Check out
http://www.liv52.com/about-your-live...liver-healthy/
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Any feedback on use of Ayurvedic medicines for diabetes (https://knockdiabetes.com/)
It has been recommended by well known Dr B M Hegde
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Any feedback on use of Ayurvedic medicines for diabetes (https://knockdiabetes.com/)
It has been recommended by well known Dr B M Hegde
BM Hegde has been quoted in several articles claiming that vaccination is bad for you, for example. I wouldn't believe him.

For diabetes - you have two or more options -

1. Diet control, yoga or other exercise etc might prevent pre diabetic people (who have a family history of diabetes, elevated but not yet diabetic blood sugar levels etc)

2. All that PLUS insulin - tablet or injectable form depends on just which sort of diabetes - if you actually contract it.

Ayurvedic medication, karela juice and such other folk remedies might help you if you are pre diabetic, but just plain diet control and exercise are going to help you just as much.

As for Homeopathy, referred to in several previous articles - this is a worthwhile video. https://www.ted.com/talks/james_randi

As others have pointed out, homeopathic / ayurvedic etc medicines are routinely adulterated with steroids, antibiotics, sildenafil citrate etc in the hope that it will actually make them work.

So if you take those, instead of harmless sugar pills in a mildly alcoholic tincture, you actually end up taking the same allopathic medicines you want to avoid, but of doubtful purity and in an unknown dosage.

If you have for example a stomach upset, taking an ayurvedic churan instead of dulcolax tablets is entirely your choice and will not make much of a difference. For anything more serious than that .. well, it is your body, your choice. I will stick to allopathic medication.
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Just cutting carbs can control type 2 diabetes. Read this.
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I want to share my experience here, I was diagnosed with a brain tumor 2 years ago and had to undergo an immediate neurosurgery. The day before surgery I developed a high fever and the surgery was postponed. A long list of tests was performed to find out the cause for high fever, results were not conclusive but fever continued. They prescribed Dolo 650 for the fever and asked me to come back after the temperature dropped. But fever continued even after 3 days and I could not risk any further delay. It was a tricky situation and I approached an Ayurveda doctor (a family friend), he prescribed some medicines and assured that it would work. It did and surgery was performed within 2 days. I was prescribed with anticonvulsant drugs post-surgery for a lifetime. These drugs caused some side effects like respiratory and hormonal problems, I have gone back to Ayurveda medicine and ever since free from side effects.
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BM Hegde has been quoted in several articles claiming that vaccination is bad for you, for example. I wouldn't believe him.
Dr Hegde is a fascinating guy. I've seen him speak a couple of times. The theme of one of those talks was that doctors are bad for us.

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As others have pointed out, homeopathic / ayurvedic etc medicines are routinely adulterated with steroids, antibiotics, sildenafil citrate etc in the hope that it will actually make them work.
I took a headache remedy. It was adulterated with sildenafil citrate. A couple of hours later, I still had the headache, but it didn't seem important any longer.

--- please excuse the irreverent comment.

Seriously, though, a huge number of allopathic medicines come from or were originally found in, herbal remedies from one school or another. Sadly, corruption seems to be part of human nature, and it is not enough to just use herbs that work for things that they work on.
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