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Old 16th July 2009, 15:02   #31
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I agree. They portray iPill as handy as we potray Google for searching. iPill is not a safe option in long run. I would not be surprised to see prostitution ads on TV 20 yrs down the line.

I have already started noticing ads of escorts in paper where they never forget to mention "Full service is given" and then "Friendship for earning and pleasure" ads. Its a reputed (?) english daily in Mumbai.

We are going to dogs again. Film actress are already shedding clothes as if there is no budget allotted for clothing. Going by this pace, we soon would be having soft porns on TV. God bless our culture.
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I agree. They portray iPill as handy as we potray Google for searching. iPill is not a safe option in long run. I would not be surprised to see prostitution ads on TV 20 yrs down the line.

I have already started noticing ads of escorts in paper where they never forget to mention "Full service is given" and then "Friendship for earning and pleasure" ads. Its a reputed (?) english daily in Mumbai.
Don't get so worked up , In some of the European countries such ads do exist in night slots. During my visits to Amsterdam one thing I understood is that sky does not fall down if things are not brushed under the carpet.

Problem with iPill ad is that still in a hush-hush tone and it does not deliver message loud and clear that for regular contraceptive other methods should be used and this is only for emergency.
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Old 16th July 2009, 15:25   #33
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Nice thread.

A lot in censorship is about sensitising and desensitising public. Research has shown that if I grow up watching mindless violence in comic books (as is common) there is a strong likelihood I would consider actual violence not a very distrubing reality. So should comic books be censored? I feel they should be.

The most common issues in censorship are regards violence and sex. Violence of any nature has no intrinsic value in society. It only adds to discord and hurt. Any act/film/print that desensitises the general public to violence should be censored. With the subject of sex too if at a very young age children are exposed to sex they build a skewed perspective and may not end up with a healthy attitude toward it.

So I am personally of the opinion that censorship when expressly designed to limit exposure to violence and sex for children is a healthy value addition.
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I too think iPill add should be more subtle. I think it is sending a wrong message and kids are likely to get influenced. The way the lady is worked up gives a feeling to children that pregnancy has to be stopped at all costs and iPill is the remedy.
The advt could be slotted for late night viewing like few condom adds.

Secondly on the topic of censorship, the first show of Sach ka Samna yesterday took the issues to a new level. Luckily the show is slotted for late night viewing. The last question which threw out the contestant a lady was "Has the thought of sleeping with another man crossed your mind if your husband did not know" !! Was indeed a shocker of a question in front of her mother, sibling and husband. For benefit of those who did not watch the program : she answered an emphatic NO and was aghast on being informed that in the polygraph test she answered "Yes".
My point is that the program is another high point for adult viewing on Indian TV.
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Our censorship is one big joke.

Watching some "family movies" on TV makes me queasy. Vulgar and utter crap shown as family movies. What the hell is that?
Its true in India people can kill each other on TV...but not kiss. And we justify it with our tradition and culture. Watch some regional movies and you'll wonder what culture we're talking about.

The kind of stuff regional channels air at prime time is embarassing. I don't want to name the channels / languages here. The intention is to say movies should be categorized properly. Porn should be called Porn by any standards. Looking at the item numbers we get to see, i guess there may not be any family stuff.
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Good point about sensitising and desensitising, specially when it comes to children who are at a very impressionable age. Shouldn't then video games be brought under the umbrella? Consider this:
Germany considers ban on violent games - TechSpot News

And if i remember correctly, NFS Underground starts off with some sort of a warning as well.

Regarding ipill, well, to me it is just another product. What it encourages or discourages is upto the viewer. BUT it is also the responsibility of the company to put up atleast a disclaimer, or side effects warning in bold.
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okay. so sex is bad and so is violence. children should be shielded from these elements. that seems to be the mantra.
if that is the case, EVERYTHING should be censored and all that kids should be allowed to see safely is a black screen. everybody likes Tom and Jerry. has is never occured to people that Tom and Jerry is violent too? why isnt there a time slot based ban on the "War on Terror"? let's simply delete all references to the World Wars from all childrens' textbooks, shall we?

no matter how much we try to detract from them, the fact remains that sex and violence are intrinsic to human nature and frankly, the reason for our existence. we came into existence because of sex and are able to continue it because of violence in some form or the other. trying to withhold information about these is only going to add a mystery factor to them and attract impressionable young children. it behooves us to take charge and demystify the same so that children are prepared and are able to use their own good judgement in tricky situations.

the ban on violent video games is another laughable joke. if they were to ban all games with violence, I reckon we would all be playing only Tetris and Pong. anybody who gets 'inspired' by violent video games should first get his head examined. Ive played GTA innumerable times and have never once been 'inspired' to run people over. games like these should simply be used as an avenue to let off some steam and have fun.
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In the iPill ad that lady says "Emergency contraceptive pill". But this ad is viewed by everybody from a 4-5 yrs old kid to 80-90 yrs old. So it is not that only target audiance is educated but everybody comes to know about this.

May be they can tie up with Condom companies to distribute a leaflet along with a pack of condoms to educate people who have sex and do not want kids. By this least people who are educated enough of taking precaution and people who do not want to have kids will get to know about this pill.
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the ban on violent video games is another laughable joke. if they were to ban all games with violence, I reckon we would all be playing only Tetris and Pong. anybody who gets 'inspired' by violent video games should first get his head examined. Ive played GTA innumerable times and have never once been 'inspired' to run people over. games like these should simply be used as an avenue to let off some steam and have fun.
How many will go get their head examined?
Look at all those morons who drive like mad on busy roads. We'll never know whether they're inspired by video games. But they sure seem to enjoy what they do.

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How many will go get their head examined?
Look at all those morons who drive like mad on busy roads. We'll never know whether they're inspired by video games. But they sure seem to enjoy what they do.

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Sir, I can assure you that none of the Blue line/Red Line/White line drivers who successfully kill few hundreds every year in Delhi do not play GTA for inspiration, and neither do countless BPO cab drivers which can often be seen sitting on their roof as they tried to take a turn to fast.
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... and neither do countless BPO cab drivers which can often be seen sitting on their roof as they tried to take a turn to fast.
sitting on their roof... that is a hoot!

actually, there is another bunch of people who need to get their heads examined. the asses who decide to ban games and such.

these things work both ways. they can either help a person calm down or can cause a person to get worked up. the specific reaction depends on the specific person. that goes to say that the actual media does not create a thought but merely amplifies / dampens something that already exists in the person's psyche. that is the root we should all be after.

oh, and now Im actually really serious when I say cartoons like Tom and Jerry and the Roadrunner show are detrimental. lets consider an example: Jerry whacks Tom with a big hammer and what happens? instead of a gruesome mess, you have a walking accordion. now imagine a child watching this. what will he conclude?
it really amuses me when none of the censors touch that.
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Sir, I can assure you that none of the Blue line/Red Line/White line drivers who successfully kill few hundreds every year in Delhi do not play GTA for inspiration, and neither do countless BPO cab drivers which can often be seen sitting on their roof as they tried to take a turn to fast.
TRUE.
Now imagine them playing GTA, getting inspiration and getting back to work.

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blacmagic, do not lose hope. Censors in china have banned Tom and Jerry for violence a number of times, so maybe our censor board also takes a leaf out of that.
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Hehe, well, they are going to show Hostel on Set Pix on 26th July. Late night. Even then I am sure the movie will get over in one hour thanks to the scissorwork.
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In the iPill ad that lady says "Emergency contraceptive pill". But this ad is viewed by everybody from a 4-5 yrs old kid to 80-90 yrs old. So it is not that only target audiance is educated but everybody comes to know about this.

May be they can tie up with Condom companies to distribute a leaflet along with a pack of condoms to educate people who have sex and do not want kids. By this least people who are educated enough of taking precaution and people who do not want to have kids will get to know about this pill.
Yes exactly..It reaches their target audience (teenagers) esp when they watch the family serial. The hush-hush speech triggers the child or teenager there is something secret so they wont ask parents abt the ad. I asked my pharmacy friend and he tells loads of stories selling i-pills to teenagers(women). People still feel shy to buy condom rather than i-pill. Though the Ad show a couple the intent is NOT. If the couple is planning for birth control definitely they wont choose i-pill. I-pill is a hormonal tab which really affects the body in the long run. I see more number of i-pill ads than coke or pepsi . Its like FMCG. If they think i-pill is a safe option then think of a hooker having AIDS.
Somehow i really get irritated when i see that Ad. Its like "License to Kill" and you can do whatever you want i-pill is there.

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