Do u belive in existence of GOD? - Page 4 - Team-BHP

vishnuvijay · 21st January 2008, 13:08

i don't belive in the concept of god. i haven't found anything to convince me otherwise.

Edsel Rulez! · 21st January 2008, 13:21

If we're talking about an anthropomorphic god that's concerned about our welfare, I don't there's one, period. Some humanists equate the forces of nature with god, but such a god has no role to play in our daily life. One thing's certain — there is ZERO benefit from praying to deities except for the "mental peace" one claims to get from believing in the superstition. I'd rather remain rational. To find out how the non-religious camp thinks, it's worth reading authors such as Richard Dawkins, Stephen Jay Gould and Christopher Hitchins.

BlackPearl · 21st January 2008, 13:22

I am atheist and would remain so for as long as I live. But I do not like to hurt others sentiments by trying to prove something and would not accept the same if somebody tries to convince me otherwise.

ajitkommini · 21st January 2008, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackPearl

I am atheist and would remain so for as long as I live. But I do not like to hurt others sentiments by trying to prove something and would not accept the same if somebody tries to convince me otherwise.

my sentiments exactly.

bblost · 21st January 2008, 13:57

i forgive my father.....
i forgive all women...
i forgive my boss...
i forgive the government...
i forgive my barber...
i forgive my past..
i forgive everyone..

i feel like GOD!

maddy42 · 21st January 2008, 14:36

I do believe in God and i dont actually feel like trying to prove my point. Different people different opinion.

@bblost That was a good one

Mack · 21st January 2008, 14:44

Quote from Bruce Almighty :

God is a mean kid with a magnifying glass.

That's good humour. But yes, I believe in some higher power called God. And going by pouplar theories like everybody's 'Sins v/s Good deeds', prayers, goodwills, narak, swarga, paap, and demands in return to some offerings, etc., I am absolutely flabbergasted by the ginormous computing and accounting capabilities of His. Or Hers! (potential topic for another poll). God may be a DJ or a woman or whatever, wouldn't change much if I believe or not. The interesting question would be 'Does God believe in me?'

But I hate religion. At least the popular derivatives of it.

sbasak · 21st January 2008, 17:02

God is like imaginary number. He doesn't exist but assuming He exists help us solve many other problems!

DirtyDan · 21st January 2008, 17:45

Both Hindu and Buddhist texts state that there is something, a reality, which defies all rational description including being described as a deity. The object of yogans of both religions is to enter that trans-rational reaity that is beyond name and form. At some point yogans are encouraged to give up even god. Both religions say "Yes, there is a reality but it is pure intuition, pure consciousness. The concept of God is only a poetic metaphor and must be given up."

Samurai · 21st January 2008, 18:26

I believe that god exists. But I simply refuse to believe their presence in noisy overcrowded major pilgrim centers. When I see beauty of nature, that's where I feel god's presence. Ancient and quiet temples come next.

thalavoy · 21st January 2008, 18:56

Good thread though controversial. I am an atheist, for the record. Richard Dawkins' 'God Delusion' is a highly recommended read for all here. This book is bound to convince the border cases firmly into atheist side

finneyp · 21st January 2008, 19:18

I definitly believe in God!

Here is one nice explaination on God's existence by Dr.Billy Graham (Well known Evangelist in USA):
BGEA: Spiritual Help: Looking For Answers

Jaggu · 21st January 2008, 20:02

Maybe there are a whole lot of things humans cant explain

and even when they can they will goof up the most obvious/simplest and complicate the rest.

Am out of this one

gkrishn · 21st January 2008, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by thalavoy

Good thread though controversial. I am an atheist, for the record. Richard Dawkins' 'God Delusion' is a highly recommended read for all here. This book is bound to convince the border cases firmly into atheist side

Is this book available in India? or is it "banned"??

Sam Kapasi · 21st January 2008, 20:55

Option 2 and 4 are almost the same in the basic logical sense. You see, even if one did not believe in the existence of God, he would still exist, if only in someone's mind. Even if it was someone else's mind.

In fact if option 4 was valid, there would be no poll would there?

View Poll Results: What do u think?
God exists.	85	43.59%
God exists only in the human mind.	15	7.69%
Maybe there is something not definable by man.	71	36.41%
There is nothing such as GOD.	24	12.31%
Voters: 195. You may not vote on this poll

21st January 2008, 13:08	#46 (permalink)
vishnuvijay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cochin Posts: 116	i don't belive in the concept of god. i haven't found anything to convince me otherwise. __________________ :-> Never Drive Faster* than your Guardian Angel Can Fly* ..........

21st January 2008, 13:22	#48 (permalink)
BlackPearl BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 656 View My Garage	I am atheist and would remain so for as long as I live. But I do not like to hurt others sentiments by trying to prove something and would not accept the same if somebody tries to convince me otherwise. __________________ Don't quit when the hill is steepest, for your goal is almost nigh; don't quit, for you are not a failure until you fail to try

21st January 2008, 13:57	#50 (permalink)
bblost BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 649 View My Garage	i forgive my father..... i forgive all women... i forgive my boss... i forgive the government... i forgive my barber... i forgive my past.. i forgive everyone.. i feel like GOD! __________________ Be your own Hero. RE TBird 2003, no speedo, no range limits. Wagon R, 2004.

21st January 2008, 14:44	#52 (permalink)
Mack Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 15	Quote from Bruce Almighty : God is a mean kid with a magnifying glass. That's good humour. But yes, I believe in some higher power called God. And going by pouplar theories like everybody's 'Sins v/s Good deeds', prayers, goodwills, narak, swarga, paap, and demands in return to some offerings, etc., I am absolutely flabbergasted by the ginormous computing and accounting capabilities of His. Or Hers! (potential topic for another poll). God may be a DJ or a woman or whatever, wouldn't change much if I believe or not. The interesting question would be 'Does God believe in me?' But I hate religion. At least the popular derivatives of it. __________________ War : It's not about who's right. It's more about What's Left. Fiat Uno 1.7D, Gypsy 2.4D Isuzu, Suzuki Fiero.

21st January 2008, 13:21	#47 (permalink)
Edsel Rulez! BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 63	If we're talking about an anthropomorphic god that's concerned about our welfare, I don't there's one, period. Some humanists equate the forces of nature with god, but such a god has no role to play in our daily life. One thing's certain — there is ZERO benefit from praying to deities except for the "mental peace" one claims to get from believing in the superstition. I'd rather remain rational. To find out how the non-religious camp thinks, it's worth reading authors such as Richard Dawkins, Stephen Jay Gould and Christopher Hitchins.

21st January 2008, 14:36	#51 (permalink)
maddy42 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore, Mumbai Posts: 511 View My Garage	I do believe in God and i dont actually feel like trying to prove my point. Different people different opinion. @bblost That was a good one

21st January 2008, 17:02	#53 (permalink)
sbasak BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CCU-LTN Posts: 566 View My Garage	God is like imaginary number. He doesn't exist but assuming He exists help us solve many other problems! __________________ Life is a math which you need to solve without knowing the answer!

21st January 2008, 17:45	#54 (permalink)
DirtyDan BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dharamsala Posts: 645	Hindu and Buddhist texts Both Hindu and Buddhist texts state that there is something, a reality, which defies all rational description including being described as a deity. The object of yogans of both religions is to enter that trans-rational reaity that is beyond name and form. At some point yogans are encouraged to give up even god. Both religions say "Yes, there is a reality but it is pure intuition, pure consciousness. The concept of God is only a poetic metaphor and must be given up." __________________ The only tyrant I accept in this world is the still voice within. -Gandhi

21st January 2008, 18:26	#55 (permalink)
Samurai Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Coastal Karnataka Posts: 5,512 View My Garage	I believe that god exists. But I simply refuse to believe their presence in noisy overcrowded major pilgrim centers. When I see beauty of nature, that's where I feel god's presence. Ancient and quiet temples come next. __________________ Samurai The notchy gearshift of GV has become buttery smooth after I started driving the Jeep.

21st January 2008, 18:56	#56 (permalink)
thalavoy BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 128 View My Garage	Good thread though controversial. I am an atheist, for the record. Richard Dawkins' 'God Delusion' is a highly recommended read for all here. This book is bound to convince the border cases firmly into atheist side

21st January 2008, 19:18	#57 (permalink)
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,433 View My Garage	I definitly believe in God! Here is one nice explaination on God's existence by Dr.Billy Graham (Well known Evangelist in USA): BGEA: Spiritual Help: Looking For Answers __________________ Drive Safe, your loved ones need you!!! My Passion is not driving Cars, but driving a FIAT! Finney, Bangalore Palio 1.2 NV - 2004

21st January 2008, 20:02	#58 (permalink)
Jaggu Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,633	Maybe there are a whole lot of things humans cant explain and even when they can they will goof up the most obvious/simplest and complicate the rest. Am out of this one __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

21st January 2008, 20:55	#60 (permalink)
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but watch this space) Posts: 6,846 View My Garage	Option 2 and 4 are almost the same in the basic logical sense. You see, even if one did not believe in the existence of God, he would still exist, if only in someone's mind. Even if it was someone else's mind. In fact if option 4 was valid, there would be no poll would there? __________________ Live the YetiLife® *MA-DONNA! MA-DONNA! MA-DONNA!*

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