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Old 8th January 2010, 23:15   #16
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don't have the heart to see the video.

such incidents are shameful and reiterate the sorry state of our country.
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Old 8th January 2010, 23:34   #17
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re-inforces my view of human life having no value in India. We pride ourselves in overcoming and getting back to work and life very next day. Only because we don't care what happens to others, sometimes ourselves.

why should doctors or policemen be blamed when nobody else views saving life as a matter of importance?
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Old 9th January 2010, 08:36   #18
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Now the update is that the two ministers, IAS officers and doctors in the convoy where forbidden by the VIP escort to get down. Sure there where bombs, as I saw the first uncut video in a local channel. They also arrested 2 persons.

Ironically, the hitmen got the wrong sub-inspector. It was a case of mistaken identity.
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Old 9th January 2010, 08:40   #19
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Were there only two ministers in the vicinity?
There was a cameraman and several other people around.
Each person had the same responsibility and duty.
News channels are as usual offering a very skewed perception of the incident.
The truth is that people were scared to help because of fear of being attacked. This is a genuine fear. You have to be in the situation to feel the tension and fear - not sit in a news room and read what the editors have written for you.

The only people who should have helped the person are the cops - they are supposed to act in fights and acts of violence.
I would only blame the ministers if they were part of the attack or encouraged it.
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Old 9th January 2010, 09:07   #20
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the cop was killed by the sand smugglers which is a huge racket here. when these guys have the guts to kill the cops, what they will do to the common man who tries to stop them. even 10 days back an RTO/revenue officer was killed who tried to stop the sand smuggling. If they trace back, all the connections would go up to the politicians and higher officials, hence no action whatsoever.

lawlessness is becoming the law, god save our country please.

We might have lost a sincere officer. may his soul rest in peace.
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Old 9th January 2010, 09:21   #21
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The Hindu : Front Page : SI murder case: 7 persons picked up
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On Thursday, one person came to the Kadayam police station a few hours before the incident and wanted to meet Sivasubramanian. The duty policemen reportedly told him that he had gone to monitor security arrangements for the visit of two Ministers to that area. Actually, Sivasubramanian was on his way to Sabarimala.
Plan is to kill a different SI (Sivasubramanian) due to family issues by the close relatives of his wife. But they mistook SI vetrivel as Sivasubramanian & killed him. Read that he did left unattended for 20 minutes waiting for an ambulance & its no brainer how important every second was at that moment.

Definitely the minister would have asked someone to attend quickly (transport) instead of waiting for 108 ambulance
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Old 9th January 2010, 09:36   #22
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listern guys, these sort of things are very common in south tamil nadu. I have personally seen such acts of crime and that too commited infront of the police and other officials! it is sick.

The sand mafia (manal mafia) has become very common as screened in Dasavatharam.
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Old 9th January 2010, 09:54   #23
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Plan is to kill a different SI (Sivasubramanian) due to family issues by the close relatives of his wife. But they mistook SI vetrivel as Sivasubramanian & killed him.
So they have to do this all over again?

Yeah, I have read articles on the murder culture in that area. One can hire an assasin for the price of a set of Michelins tyres.
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Actually, the murder itself is not as much as ghastly act compared to what happened after that.
Absolutely no respect for value of human life. When you have a convoy of so many vehicles, and state ministers (some Paneerselvem ?), watching the scene and waiting for him to die, one wonders are we living amongst human beings or animals ?
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Old 9th January 2010, 10:37   #25
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Read the news in the newspapers. It was a mistaken identity.
It was a family problem (dowry harrassment) and the wife of SI Sivasubramaniam already registered a police complaint against her husband alleging dowry harrassment.
since no compromise, Sivasubramaniam left his wife. The wife's relatives/family members have been closely following the movements of Sivasubramaniam (who was on his way to Sabarimala). The another SI Vetrivel, who was wearing a HELMET came on the spot and got killed by those people which includes one retired sub-inspector (all related to the wife of Subramaniam).

Even Police has no security on their life , what about poor common people???
Where we are heading to?!
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Does the media team have no senses as well?
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Old 9th January 2010, 12:14   #27
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We have two issues here. 1) We have people who dont bother or fear to assassin a Policeman 2) To the level of ministers & IAS officers afraid to help the victim.

Now while the media is making news sensational on the 2nd and totally ignoring the first point!

I agree with BenjiRoss on the point that

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Were there only two ministers in the vicinity?
There was a cameraman and several other people around.
Each person had the same responsibility and duty.
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Old 9th January 2010, 12:16   #28
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I have read articles on the murder culture in that area. One can hire an assasin for the price of a set of Michelins tyres
You're well informed.
This incident as well as what Phoenix witnessed are daily events.
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Things like this are common down south. My school had the district court next to it, and a witness was hacked to death in court right front of the Judge, and the body was dumped in my school's basketball court. This was in 1994, my class has a window facing the basketball court- we were watching the whole dumping-and-escaping sequence live...
May Vetrivel's soul rest in peace!

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i was having my dinner and i saw this gruesome footage. it was so disgusting that i couldnt eat further. i felt like throwing bombs at the politicians and the camera man and make them suffer the same.

one person was also pouring water on him from far away as if his hands would have got dirty if he would have touched him.

since yes night till now the same scene appears in front of me. tears dropped in my eyes when i was just thinking how his family might feel. he was serving the nation and no one even bothered to pick him and take him to the hospital.
he had a lot of life left after the explosion. he could have easily been saved.
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Old 9th January 2010, 13:35   #30
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i did watch the disgusting footage.

Not many people in INDIA will not help the accident or any such victim due to the reason that our law & order and judiciary are not really in place. One is scared to help for the fear of having to bear the brunt of the cops and the judiciary later in life. It may become a case of running from pillar to post for life.

People would always want to help , but the way our judiciary and cops work puts brakes to them.

I would also like to ask here how we all, discussing here would have reacted if we were placed in a situation like that, to be in a position to help that cop. Would we have helped him or no ?
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