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View Poll Results: Which state are you in?
Drag myself to office everyday; wish i was somewhere else 74 70.48%
Can't wait to reach office and get busy 17 16.19%
Too busy doing nothing to think of such trivialities 14 13.33%
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Old 30th April 2010, 20:27   #16
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No sh!t!! This guy has given me one hell of an inspiration.I too was of the same kind.District level football player,TT champ,lead guitarist of my company's band and now after 4.5 years of doing all the crap work any IT guy can digest all I can think of is to save some moolah and get good home, to get my salary into fixed deposits and what not.I have really lost the real me.

Reality check huh
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Old 1st May 2010, 17:43   #17
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Whatever you guys do, do NOT take a hasty decision. Sometimes, the boredom is just a temporary passing phrase. It's also very important to enjoy doing what you do. Sure, some people love fashion and work in the industry (as an example). But even if you are working in an industry that isn't your core interest, you can still be passionate about doing a fantastic job. One of my biggest motivators is pursuing perfection & excellence. I may in some, I may not in some...but that doesn't stop me from trying to do a heck of a good job.

I do spend a lot of time on Team-BHP, and hence voted for option no.2
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Voting 2 & the reason is little long post.

Past - Somewhere when I was in 7th grade, one of the popular Thamizh magazine used to publish English-Thamizh translated self motivational articles & one of them used to be Here's how anyone can succeed now by Kopmeyer. So I came across one of the part where it was talking about dreams & how to keep thinking strong on what you need to achieve. That was a point that is deeply rooted within me & to an extend I would agree that it is very true.

My point - No matter what you do now, do it; do it with passion; do it with commitment; understand why it is being done & do it with quality. But always keep the fire, desire, dream, lust, passion burning inside that you want to do. Live & breathe on it. If it is for real, one day it will come to you.
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me from Auto industry, seriously looking for a change, it's not the way it looks (glamorous) from outside.

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Hey Spikey, We need to talk!!

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Whatever you guys do, do NOT take a hasty decision. Sometimes, the boredom is just a temporary passing phrase. It's also very important to enjoy doing what you do.
Yup, DO the WORK you love or LOVE the WORK you DO..
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Old 1st May 2010, 22:32   #20
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IT sucks big time, not because of the work, but because of all those morons who moved way up the ladder just because the industry grew so rapidly. Most of the jokers don't ever use their brains or common-sense. Even those who have the necessary intellect have learnt to leave their brain at their home when they start to work, as otherwise it is difficult to suvive among these morons.

God this industry needs a massive massive shakeup.

As far me i love what i do, but the problem is, in IT you are not supposed to talk sense. All you need to do is talk non-sense whole day and keep passing the buck. Unfotunately i am not made that way, and that is where the problem lies

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Old 1st May 2010, 22:37   #21
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Hey Spikey, We need to talk!!
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Sure Vikram, will call you this weekend.

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Most of the jokers don't ever use their brains or common-sense. Even those who have the necessary intellect have learnt to leave their brain at their home when they start to work, as otherwise it is difficult to suvive among these morons.
Yeah, i agree, this is prevalent in Automobile MNCs also, people just don't want to use their kidneys.

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I am a fresher and all set to enter the IT field after much delay(more than a year since I finished MCA). I feel really depressed going through this thread. Well, it also depends on what job you get. I hope I end up with something interesting, at least for the next few years till I start up something on my own!
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me from Auto industry, seriously looking for a change, it's not the way it looks (glamorous) from outside.

Spike
Surprising, given your passion for things automotive!

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PS. If one day in a week, you are looking forward to your day at work, consider yourself blessed. No job is as glamorous as it seems. Even applies to fashion photographers.
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Old 1st May 2010, 23:06   #24
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Hi Voted option 2.
Even i am going through the same nonsense IT practices. In last 2+ years TeamBhp's membership has given me lot of motivation. What do i do? - browse TeamBhp when ever possible. (Read at least 4 hrs a day). IT really needs some sensible think-tanks.
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Surprising, given your passion for things automotive!

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PS. If one day in a week, you are looking forward to your day at work, consider yourself blessed. No job is as glamorous as it seems. Even applies to fashion photographers.
Hi Sutripta,

Well said, infact this is the only reason I am still holding on despite being offered fatter paychecks with other MNCs.

Spike

P.S. When i saw the last reply was yours, i guessed this was coming!
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Old 1st May 2010, 23:31   #26
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Its not only IT that sucks. Me into banking, been here since 10 yrs.

Its been the story of "Been there. Done that"

Off-late there is nothing challenging, nor the industry seems to wake up.

Become more of a routine, drag myself to office, finish work and get back to my second career option. But even here things getting bit irritating since everyone wants everything to be done FREE.

Time and energy has no value.
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Its not this industry or that. Its the structuredness, the feeling that one's getting limited, and at the same time stretched within those limits. Many of us have more than one skill and interest, and our 'day-job' does eat up into the rest. Oftentimes the impact of what we do is not very obvious, or not easily visible - and this gives rise to restlessness. Bad bosses, appraisal-focused colleagues, water-cooler/canteen politics etc just highlight this restlessness, and you feel disconnected. But like GTO said, hasty, reactive decisions are probably counter-productive. Quitting when its going well is likely to be for better, sustainable reasons.
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IT sucks big time, not because of the work, but because of all those morons who moved way up the ladder just because the industry grew so rapidly. Most of the jokers don't ever use their brains or common-sense. Even those who have the necessary intellect have learnt to leave their brain at their home when they start to work, as otherwise it is difficult to suvive among these morons.
Shhhhh, don't say it so openly.

Most of those morons/jokers would be on this forum too.

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* How often do we look at our profession related to our personal skills?
* How often do we hone our personal skills independent of job demands?
* How often do we consider that what happens to us in our jobs is due to what we do / think, and NOT the environment?

The answer in most cases is "seldom / never". The organization / enterprise that we work in is just a passive framework, it is we who are the active elements. The situation is no different in our families in our personal lives, yet we don't think of it as a lack of something happening. Do we think of dissociating ourselves? NEVER! Almost none of us carry the ethics we have in our families to our jobs. Does someone pay us in our families to live a steady life despite the natural urge for change (humans are wired like that)? NO! Yet we impose the thoughts of boredom and ennui into our professional lives where we get paid. That is ethics, or lack of it.

Most of the time we are resenting the state which unknowingly is of our own creation. The limitations that we think are imposed on us in office are because we imagine them. Do we ever think of freedom of responsible thought and action within the ambit of the organizational framework? Seldom, if ever.

If ever I feel bored of repetitive actions (all of us have to do things on a hygiene factor basis), I have discovered enough ways and means for me to exploit to change the situation. Many have of these have honed my skill, many have contributed to my experience, and none of them were a waste.

Even I have had bouts of the dreaded "7 year itch" professionally, and I have committed my sins ("100 100 mice eating, cat going pilgrimage"). I have always wondered why people in developed countries have a different ethos. I had worked with a colleague in Germany 15 years back on a Vehicle Simulator, on which he had already worked for 5 years. The last I checked he was still on it even after after 20 years! In the meantime, he got married, has been raising his children, and done a ton of other things. When I had asked him about how he relates to his job, he had told me his job only served to feed all the other facets of his life, and was not the center of his thinking. Yet, I am yet to meet an engineer more competent than him. All the people I have worked with in Germany, France, UK, US and Japan - they held the same belief, and all are excellence personified in their professions.
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I have always wondered why people in developed countries have a different ethos. I had worked with a colleague in Germany 15 years back on a Vehicle Simulator, on which he had already worked for 5 years. The last I checked he was still on it even after after 20 years! In the meantime, he got married, has been raising his children, and done a ton of other things. When I had asked him about how he relates to his job, he had told me his job only served to feed all the other facets of his life, and was not the center of his thinking. Yet, I am yet to meet an engineer more competent than him. All the people I have worked with in Germany, France, UK, US and Japan - they held the same belief, and all are excellence personified in their professions.
Umm, yet its in those same environments that you'll find more people completely chucking it all and changing their lives, careers mid-stream. Anecdotal evidence is usually misleading.

Its not always about resenting something - it might be about wanting something else instead (in fact thats when it works better). Each of us is just wired differently. Some like structure, predictability; some don't. Some have a wider range of cross-functional skills than many jobs allow, and the structured world did not (tho there are changes everywhere!) accommodate the chance to work on "unproven" skills so far. On the other hand, its also the "affordability" of risk taking - we do have larges financial cushions and less social responsibilities these days than we used to - and this allows us to think of alternatives more easily.

Sure, its a fine line between using these as an excuse to not involving yourself in your job enough - which is why quitting at the top is the right way to do it. This "top", though, is ideally not defined as a rung on the corporate ladder, or any other standard definition. People who seek to change things are, in fact, looking to write their own left-hand-side of their lives' report cards, not as dictated by someone else.

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