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Old 15th October 2005, 07:55   #1 (permalink)
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Hi TBhpians

Was just going thru eBay India n came across this item listed.

Item number: 6441632130
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Old 15th October 2005, 09:36   #2 (permalink)
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sounds intresting...
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Old 15th October 2005, 09:56   #3 (permalink)
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ya man...but dont know if its a success or failure
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Old 15th October 2005, 10:47   #4 (permalink)
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If you see it says in the listing that they are giving "plans only", no actual equipment.

I know that hydrogen cells are a hot research topic among scientists and R&D divisions of major auto companies.

I do NOT think that this is a DIY (Do It Yourself) concept as of now.
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Old 17th October 2005, 15:06   #5 (permalink)
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One can get plans manufacture hydrogen fuel cells anywhere on the net.. But has anyone thot about the cost implication and anyways its not a proven system as yet that the system will work...
So i think its just a big farce...
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Old 17th October 2005, 17:33   #6 (permalink)
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Nice way to make some money. Am putting up another for sale thread which reads " Run your car ONLY on air"

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nothin doing till it is all public and proven.
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Old 19th October 2005, 13:37   #8 (permalink)
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I think BMW has a Hydrogen car. Will the same specifications go here?
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the book appears to be on the principle of hydrogen combustion- and that, is definitely possible; this's a different concept from that of the hydrogen fuel cell- in a hydrogen fuel cell, hydrogen and oxygen ions combine to produce high electricity, which is powering a electric motor; in the "electrolysis" process, H and O are separated using electricity, and is directed to a internal combustion engine, which, functions as per the norm.

now, the pros-

a) excellent calorific value from H, so much more power possible from a similar displacement gasoline engine.
b) the cleanest possible combustion.
c) extremely environment friendly, and much more efficient.
d) maybe hydrogen powered cars could outrun gas or methanol powered dragsters...

cons-

a) hydrogen isn't that easy to be electrolysed- almost 85 KWH of electricity is needed to produce 1 kg of hydrogen.
b) although much better, H is also extremely inflammable- meaning, controlled combustion is a tedious task- a lot of forged components will have to be involved...
c) the electrolysis process takes a little time; so the electrolysis chamber would have to be constantly supplied with high voltage, and the production of H may not be proportional to the rate of consumption of engine...

etc...etc...

but DAMN...i had an idea like this a long time back; in fact, i still did till about two- three years ago, until i found out that somebody else was already into it, somewhere in atlantica or something... i believe i had posted a note about this on a thread, "alternate fuels" somewhere else on the forum...

a great idea, though- and somebody is already working on it, which means that we could see a fully functional prototype in a couple of years...

p.s- i don't trust that ebay item, though....

a long time back (more than 15 years ago), my dad had seen an ad in a paper, in delhi, quoting a "new generation mosquito-terminating machine". after sending some petty amount as money order, we received that "new generation mosquito terminating machine" - a fly swatter....

now this could be something on the same lines...
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