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Old 9th January 2008, 19:45   #2656
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This is going to get uglier...as they say - picture abhi baaki hai.
Or in Rocky 3.
"Its a Gutter war, and its anybody's fight now!"

I shudder to think what will happen if India lose all the remaining test matches. WACA is not a joke. At least they can draw a few.
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Old 9th January 2008, 20:25   #2657
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Here is one speculation by the media: The Betting Syndicate had heavy stakes on Australia maintaining its winning streak and paid off the umpire(s). I think this is not as far-fetched as it may sound, given especially Bucknor's biased decisions in favour of Australia.

I also find ICC's obstinacy in sticking to Bucknor for most of Australia's Test matches, despite his proven record of favouritism to the Aussies, to be very, very strange. If ICC had acted during that famous (2003?) tour when we held Aussies to 1-1 draw, we would have been spared the present events. During that tour Bucknor gave many dubious decisions in favour of Australia and of course, many against India. Needless to say other teams have also suffered at the hands of Bucknor when playing against Australia.
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Old 9th January 2008, 22:13   #2658
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Geoff Lawson has said that he feels the Aussies are way too arrogant,and need help in changing their attitude ..
Lawson calls Australian team ‘arrogant’ - Sify.com

Good! About time that ex-cricketers took up the issue and ensured that the current players maintain all norms of the game,which once had so much charm.
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At last someone writes with a clear mind.

Cricinfo - Some balance, please
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Old 9th January 2008, 23:05   #2660
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There was one final drama as the team left, with the bus sideswiping a parked silver Mercedes sedan as it tried to make a tight turn while avoiding the throng of media and supporters.
Source : Test tour back on track - Cricket - Sport - smh.com.au
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Old 10th January 2008, 01:38   #2661
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At last someone writes with a clear mind.

Cricinfo - Some balance, please
Was that a pun?

He completely got it wrong. Name appears to be indian, but seems "hard and fair" headed like a aussie.

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By hauling up a player for a racial slur (just as all who drink are not alcoholics, all who use racially charged words are not racists), the match referee has apparently called into question our manhood, nationhood, honour, Gandhian way of life, support for Nelson Mandela in the days of apartheid, and the sacrifices made by our martyrs.
No one said so. everyone is pissed that procter doomed bhajji without any evidence.

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The way India treats the ICC is no different from the manner in which the "veto powers", England and Australia, did in their heyday.
No, you are wrong. Its not a question of money-muscle. I would have done the same had this been football or hockey or beach volleyball. We were wronged by the umpires and we threatened to pull-out unless we were given fair umpires. Its another matter though that our sports associations dont have the guts to stand up and be counted.

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But if the two captains had an agreement regarding catches close to the wicket, then Mark Benson was right in turning to Ponting when Sourav Ganguly was caught. After all, Steve Bucknor was further away from the action.
LOL. Since square leg umpire was further away from slips....
In run outs and stumpings and close catches, fielders/bowler or wkt keeper are closest to action. So why do umpires adjudicate there? they are farther away from action...basically, why do we need umpires then? they are always farther away from action. 3rd umpire is not even present in the field.

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Cricinfo - Some balance, please


You are now officially a "desh ka gaddaar".

I have myself been wondering why we have been bombarded with so much priority to cricket related news over the past few days!

Mind you, Bhajji is known to me, and I think he's a real sweetheart.. but still???
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Does this mean the club team is going to win the remaining two Tests? They're going to look really stupid if they get thulped again, umpiring mistakes or not.
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Does this mean the club team is going to win the remaining two Tests? They're going to look really stupid if they get thulped again, umpiring mistakes or not.
If there is any serious pride in this side, they will thulp the aussies at their own game. Perth is quick, get 4 quick bowlers & a spinner in Kumble, bowl the heart out (Yes, we have some hearty bowlers) & bat aussies out of the game. The one reason why aussies celebrated so much for the sydney victory was because they knew SCG was the one place where their winning streak could be cut short. They will be looking forward to walking all over us at Perth. A super effort from our super batsmen & an accurate all out performance by our bowlers especially Zaheer Khan (If he is fit) & RP Singh could make this an interesting match & probably give us a 1st victory at Perth, one to cherish for a long time.
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The protest was for
  • respect for opposition
  • fair play by the umpire
  • if possible ensure spirit of the game is upheld
We may or may not win. But whats important is dignity.

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Does this mean the club team is going to win the remaining two Tests? They're going to look really stupid if they get thulped again, umpiring mistakes or not.
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Old 10th January 2008, 11:23   #2666
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Instead of clear it should be blank. The writer doesn't understand the issue at all. He seem to be living in a cave for years & came out only when this issue was on news channels.
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Well hope they take sreeshanth for the next match. Also pathan should be on the side. drop yuvi
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My Playing 11:
  1. Jaffer (bat)
  2. Sehwag (bat/bowl)
  3. Dravid (bat)
  4. Tendulkar (bat/bowl)
  5. Ganguly (bat/bowl)
  6. Laxman (bat)
  7. Dhoni (bat)
  8. Pathan (bowl/bat)
  9. Kumble (bowl)
  10. RP Singh (bowl)
  11. Ishant/Pankaj/VRV (bowl) (whose bowling style suits Perth?)
So we have 7+1 batsmen & 4+3 bowlers

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Well hope they take sreeshanth for the next match. Also pathan should be on the side. drop yuvi
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So the Indians notched up 325 against ACT without the services of Tendulkar & Ganguly (and Laxman). Looks like Dravid is shaking himself out of the tortoise mode, hope it lasts -

Scoreboard - Presented by MasterCard - Cricket Australia

Mr Yuvraj Singh continues to focus on matters off the field as it seems.......

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What we -- the team, viewers, the BCCI -- and the rest of the world is failing to see is that the Bajji incident is a carefully orchestrated one by Aussies to divert attention from how they won the test (and equaled the record). An issue on racism is of far higher level of importance than umpiring mistakes and victory. Who is talking about how Ponting, Clarke and Gilchrist tried to cheat and how the test was stolen from India by the umpires. The bigger issue has taken a front seat in the immediate days after the test. That was the plan.

As someone said, if Dalmia was heading the BCCI, he would have already got the test result nulled, got Bucknor to retire, push Benson out of the elite panel, filed an unfair play against Ponting for claiming 2 catches while, one, when he had clearly grounded the ball and on second occasion he had no chance to be 100% sure. If Latif as captain can be banned for 5 matches for claiming a catch that was grounded (by the same Proctor), I am sure as a message Ponting should also be.

Gilchrist's celebration after taking the 'catch' off Dravid was also a case of cheating. No way could he have NOT seen the line of the ball. Though he claims otherwise.

Oh, now Ponting is getting counter playing to get the public sympathy back saying that his family was threatened and he seem to have mellowed down. But what we will still fail to see -- admist all the celebrations of victory to cricket and India -- is that this also was part of the plan.

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