DIY SQ install: Gill's Swift

[gunbir]

Originally Posted by clipto333

the pics of the energy speakers looks like animated. are they? when can we expect real pics? and whats audiocontrol BTW? it has been added to the bottom where there are links to other elletromedia group's websites.

Some of the "pics" are 3D renderings. The Energy products are already shipping now and on their way here. Will post up "real pics" as soon as I have them.

As for Audiocontrol, its a separate US based company. Elettromedia just distribute their products in Italy, thats all.

Originally Posted by clipto333

I noticed another thing. The Energy sub woofers now have Foam Surround. Will it affect reliability? Foam surrounds are known to deteriorate in hot and humid climates. Also, there is no mention of band pass enclosures in the specs now

Its treated foam surround, so no issues. In fact even the Mille subs have treated foam surrounds as they fare better than butyl rubber surrounds under high excursion stress.

[Gill]

@Gunbir,when is the new line(SUB) expected to arrive and expected price hike in % over current line.

friends,
Which one to pick out of these two,Auditioned ES380 in a sealed box peformance was great and not at all loose,but then i have used ID and mine exp with it was awesome too,
Sub will get 284RMS @ 4ohms
HERTZ ES380
HERTZ by Elettromedia - Special Car Stereo
D mm 32
Xmax mm 9
Re ohm 2.9
Fs Hz 24.2
Le mH@1khz 2.63
Le mH@10khz 1.14
Vas lit 183.00
Mms gr 240.4
Cms mm/N 0.18
BL T-m 13.28
Qts 0.52
Qes 0.60
Qms 3.93
Spl (1m/2,83V) DB 95

Size mm 380(15")
Power
Handling
(Watt) peak/conti 900/450
Impedance ohms 4
Frequency
response hz 20-200
Sensitivity db/spl 95

Xmech* mm 14.5

*Xmech maximum mechanical excursion: it indicates the range of movement in zone of linear operation of the loudspeaker, in both senses
WHAT's the difference between Xmax n Xmech?

IDQ 12"D2V2
Image Dynamics - Tech Pages
Nominal Impedance (IMP) 1 / 4 ohm
DC Resistance (Re) .975 / 3.9 ohms
Resonant Frequency (Fs) 19Hz
Electrical "Q" (Qes) .271
Mechanical "Q" (Qms) 4.59
Total "Q" (Qts) .256
Equivalent Volume (Vas) 5.04 ft3
One Way Linear (Xmax) 13.5 mm
Cone Area (Sd) 530 cm2
Sensitivity (Spl) 90.2 db
RMS Power Handling (Pwr) 100 to 500
Speaker Displacement .07 ft3
Plz advice how should i go about it,if needed plz ask for something that i have missed.

Cheers!

[gunbir]

Originally Posted by Gill

@Gunbir,when is the new line(SUB) expected to arrive and expected price hike in % over current line.

Mid~End November. Price hike approx 10% over outgoing line.

[navin]

Originally Posted by gunbir

Its treated foam surround, so no issues. In fact even the Mille subs have treated foam surrounds as they fare better than butyl rubber surrounds under high excursion stress.

UV treated foam is more resilient than regular foam but not as resilient as UV treted butyl rubber.

Originally Posted by Gill;609487
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HERTZ ES380[/b]
HERTZ by Elettromedia - Special Car Stereo
Mms gr 240.4
Cms mm/N 0.18
BL T-m 13.28
WHAT's the difference between Xmax n Xmech?

IDQ 12"D2V2

what size and type of box aer you planning to get?
I do not see BL, Mms, Cms figures for the ID max.

[Gill]

Originally Posted by navin

what size and type of box aer you planning to get?
I do not see BL, Mms, Cms figures for the ID max.

ENC shall be sealed,size for IDQ shall be 1.cuft and recommended size for ES380.Power will be 284w.
Navin ji, i couldn't find these figs for IDQ.

Cheers.

[Gill]

One small question, will 284W@14.4v be able to do justice to IDQ12".

[gunbir]

Originally Posted by Gill

One small question, will 284W@14.4v be able to do justice to IDQ12".

Its not a question of doing justice but in fact your taste. We have people running an iDQ12 with 180w, others with 300w, some with 500w and I'm running mine on 600w.

[navin]

Originally Posted by gunbir

I'm running mine on 600w.

you got 2 subs right?

Originally Posted by Gill

ENC shall be sealed,size for IDQ shall be 1.cuft and recommended size for ES380.Power will be 284w..

I have heard teh ID but not the Hertz. still since the Hertz is a 15" and you do nto have a problem with it's bigger box size why not get the Hertz?

[gunbir]

Originally Posted by navin

you got 2 subs right?

Nah... a single iDQ12 sealed.

[Gill]

Originally Posted by gunbir

Its not a question of doing justice but in fact your taste. We have people running an iDQ12 with 180w, others with 300w, some with 500w and I'm running mine on 600w.

Gunbir bai ji, Taste develops when one has options to try out different things, sadly i didn't got the chance to listen to different options.
It will be really nice if you can narrate the differnce in sound at those different level of power input, then one might get an idea,atleast i will.

Cheers!

[overdose14]

Gill shabb, try this.
Disconnect you front components from amp and put them on HU and wire you sub (its a DVC right) using both channels of amp and then listen and then decide to sell it of.
problem is that when we had to choose between sq and spl more than half would go in for spl and that was is what you want now.

[gunbir]

Originally Posted by gunbir

Its not a question of doing justice but in fact your taste. We have people running an iDQ12 with 180w, others with 300w, some with 500w and I'm running mine on 600w.

Originally Posted by Gill

It will be really nice if you can narrate the differnce in sound at those different level of power input, then one might get an idea,atleast i will.

Its really a combination of amp, power, enclosure type, volume and tuning.
It may be easier to do this if you describe what you want. Start by mentioning what you liked about the iDv3 and what you didn't. Then I will know what you need.

[Gill]

Originally Posted by gunbir

Its really a combination of amp, power, enclosure type, volume and tuning.
It may be easier to do this if you describe what you want. Start by mentioning what you liked about the iDv3 and what you didn't. Then I will know what you need.

Gubir bai ji ID10"v3 is simply awesome,goes down real low,best thing i liked about this amp which i didn't found in few other setup was difference in bass,in a same song this sub makes u hear drumer bass,synthetic bass n low bass,even vocal bass too all with their own taste.
Few songs i heard on this setup ther were some quite low bass notes which i never head before(Bally sagoo songs n few others) and most imp of all it just don't push a single tone,it blends realy well,SS n Clip can vouch for that.
What i need is bit more thumb keeping intact the same tighness and most imp Detail of bass.I missed deep bass at low to moderate volumes in my setup that might be cause of lack of power.

More to come...

Cheers....

[gunbir]

Originally Posted by Gill

Gubir bai ji ID10"v3 is simply awesome,goes down real low,best thing i liked about this amp which i didn't found in few other setup was difference in bass,in a same song this sub makes u hear drumer bass,synthetic bass n low bass,even vocal bass too all with their own taste.

Few songs i heard on this setup ther were some quite low bass notes which i never head before(Bally sagoo songs n few others) and most imp of all it just don't push a single tone,it blends realy well,SS n Clip can vouch for that.

What i need is bit more thumb keeping intact the same tighness and most imp Detail of bass.I missed deep bass at low to moderate volumes in my setup that might be cause of lack of power.

Hmm... That sounds about right... thats the iD v3 for you

Now what did you NOT like about it... or is it that you like everything but just want more output?

[Gill]

Originally Posted by gunbir

Hmm... That sounds about right... thats the iD v3 for you
Now what did you NOT like about it... or is it that you like everything but just want more output?

ID10"V3 is flawless sub at it's price,you can't say this sub won't do this,won't do that!!!One can't ask for more.One more plus is their compatabilty with small enc.
Now i need some more SQL,bit of head turner bass when i want(Evil ME
)Sometimes i want it....
So what would u suggest now,Gunbir paa ji!!!!