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Old 17th December 2011, 23:35   #31
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But truth be told no matter how many lanes are there in an Indian road, it will always be a chaos.

1. Lane Rules:No-one and I mean literally NO-ONE understands the importance of a Driving lane and an Overtaking lane, Trucks especially blocking both lanes, one taking ages overtaking the other at times, and buses, like its their will to chose whichever way to drive.

2. The Rear View mirror: I still have no freaking idea why even many car drivers fold their rear-view mirrors of either side, like what's happening behind them is of a bygone era.

3. "It's also the People's fault!": Not just bus drivers for stopping whereever they want, but the people for encouraging that by standing anywhere on the road, like the entire stretch of Indian roads is a bus stop.

4. "Villagers, no offence, but the road is not for you to dry husk and cow dung."

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A new problem has cropped up on mysore - bangalore 4lane . People have developed and are developing at an alarming of travelling on opposite lane - initially it was cycles , then tractors , then scooters , now cars and lorrys . sugarcane laden carts think its their birth right to travel the entire stretch on opposite lane.
very good post... it all boils down to discipline. If only every driver followed rules it would make driving so much more convenient and safer.

trucks,busses rickshaws, cabs hogging up all the lanes driving at 2 Kmph faster than the one they are trying to overtake is just ridiculous.

like u mentioned there are so many ignorant drivers who dont use mirrors, change lanes without looking. the problem is people think they own the roads and can do whatever they want, drive how ever they want stop anywhere and the best line is " haath dikhaya na" its like they put out their hand and that gives them the right to do anything...

the only way things can get better is if the authorities get strict and enforce the law..lane discipline, driving without lights, stopping anywhere, etc

and thats just one side of things then we have the people who worsen matters. walk across roads like they are in a park, jay walkers, cyclists bullock carts.. they need to be pulled up as well and action taken against them. i can go on and on. Personally i think its too late and have given up hope for improvement.

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Old 18th December 2011, 00:17   #32
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I do a lot of highway driving and a particular nasty one for me apart from the pertinent ones mentioned by others is the one of a "cut in the divider" for my place. Be it my home, restaurant, side road, workshop, MacDonalds. Had been recently to pune and drove to shirdi on nagar road and found this phenomenon througout the route. The divider on the highway was neatly chopped up to accomodate each persons needs.

This needless to say allows morons to cut and turn at will and come in the way of high speed traffic with population affecting results.
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You see at the progress of Indian roads and look back 10 years thinking it has been a major progress.
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I got an "expert advice" from an experienced driver that one should learn to drive without using ORVMs. Only "real seasoned drivers" like him can drive without ORVMs. This is what prople think.
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I got an "expert advice" from an experienced driver that one should learn to drive without using ORVMs. Only "real seasoned drivers" like him can drive without ORVMs. This is what prople think.
He is right. Why do you need mirrors when the vehicles following him have signed a pact to look after him on the road......for everything else there is honking
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Found the following video about the NH 46/219/7 Krishnagiri section posted by NHAI. There are many similar videos for this section of road uploaded by the NHAI. Dont blame me for the poor english commentary and bad pronounciations and factual errors(there are lot of them!). Just enjoy the video of four/six lane bangalore-chennai highway.



The main idea of posting this video is
1. It can be clearly seen, what is being discussed about here!
2. Clearly, NHAI has engineered good roads but not scientifically useful ones.
3. People need special training to drive on highways.

Govt. if you are listening, please do it before things get out of hand!
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Old 31st December 2011, 14:19   #36
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A few thoughts:

a) Bring out a basic driving manual in English (with diagrams where required) that is applicable nationwide. A 30..40 pager on recycled paper may not cost more than 10..15 bucks. I have seen these manuals distributed free at all licensing centers in USA and the online versions are also free to download. We could look at state specific ones (if required) and translations in phase-II.

b) May be decentralizing traffic activities (signboards, police personnel etc) to municipalities or local bodies will help in better implementation and control. Again, this model is followed in USA where each county has its own police force and one of their main tasks is to monitor driving violations.

c) Induct private entities to record violations and help police in penalizing violators, give them a % in the fines. Photo/Video evidence could be mandated before the police can slap fines. Having the private entities to engage tow-trucks and manage impounding lots will help the police in acting quickly against the violators and this (towing away) will prove a big deterrent.

Worth sharing? may be with Hyd traffic police to begin with?
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c) Induct private entities to record violations and help police in penalizing violators, give them a % in the fines. Photo/Video evidence could be mandated before the police can slap fines. Having the private entities to engage tow-trucks and manage impounding lots will help the police in acting quickly against the violators and this (towing away) will prove a big deterrent.

Worth sharing? may be with Hyd traffic police to begin with?
Let me share my experience with Bangalore Traffic Police. After a three from a family were crushed to death near to my house, I wrote to the traffic commissioner about the reckless driving by lorries/tractors on Old madras road. I also mentioned I am willing to help as a citizen to educate these people. You know what I got after three reminders? Freaking nothing. Once I find some time, I plan to escalate this to his higher ups. These buggers are simply busy penalizing trucks rather then educate them. Jai Ho!
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Another major irritant on highways is the proliferation of speed breakers. Most dangerous are the metal barriers used. I understand that these exist because the authorities permit construction along the highway so there are a lot of people there which makes it dangerous, but this is still a dumb idea.

The other really dangerous thing is the practice of putting u-turns in the fast lane so that you can turn around. Why doesn't the government spend more money and do flyovers, the like of which you see in most other countries
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Another major irritant on highways is the proliferation of speed breakers. Most dangerous are the metal barriers used. I understand that these exist because the authorities permit construction along the highway so there are a lot of people there which makes it dangerous, but this is still a dumb idea.
Allahabd High Court outlawed Speed breakers on National Highways sometime in the mid 1990's. Justice Chauhan himself told me this in a party. He was the one who gave the judgement.

But then who cares, we specialise in proving that the Law is an ***.
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Dear All,

As we are discussiong about the traffice rules and lane driving in the highways, can someone elaborate on the correct rules for lane driving in highways/expressways?

I must admit here that I have limited knowledge in this area, and having many doubts.

Like in Mumbai, truck drivers drive in the right most lane usually, and cars have to overtake them from the left side, which is incorrect.

What are rules one has to adhere to in the lane driving?

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[quote=scuderiamania;2518530]Well, I should mention here that although highway traffic in the state of west bengal isn't the best in the country, I'd say its not that bad actually.
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Well, in UP / Bihar / Bengal, a 4 lane highway is like 2 highways. Traffic can move in either direction in either side.

But driving now is definitely easier than it was 15 years ago.
It is true in most other places too, especially when the 4 lane road is just brand new. After a few accidents and awakening of sense, the road actually becomes what it was meant to be.
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