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Old 20th September 2016, 21:08   #21826
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Happened today near Nehru Zoological Park, Hyderabad. According to news report, both the driver and pillion survived and are receiving treatment.



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Happened today near Nehru Zoological Park, Hyderabad. According to news report, both the driver and pillion survived and are receiving treatment.
A casual observation - the passerbys on vehicles are too reluctant to stop. It is the folks on foot who help the victims.
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A casual observation - the passerbys on vehicles are too reluctant to stop. It is the folks on foot who help the victims.
It could be the mere indifference or disconnect among folks or the fear of being subjected to judicial processes that pulls away them from extending help.

Or perhaps people on foot are still left with some amount of generosity!
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What happened is only a natural result of driving on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic.

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What happened is only a natural result of driving on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic.
Very true indeed! I wonder whether these folks will be penalized for their heedless driving maneuvers (after their recovery though) as evident from the footage.
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Very true indeed! I wonder whether these folks will be penalized for their heedless driving maneuvers (after their recovery though) as evident from the footage.
Generally it is the guy in the larger/expensive vehicle thats at fault. The driver of the SwiftDzire now will be brought into questioning, a case will be filled and the drivers life will get harrowed for no fault of his.
You are absolutely spot on, the guys that cause these accidents should be penalized once they are fine. I feel bad for the guy on the bike but worse for the Dzire's driver.

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The bikers should thank their stars that the Dzire driver had the presence of mind to do an emergency swerve, else the car would have hit them head on instead of the side-swipe. I have no sympathies for the biker. Totally their fault.

Btw, in such cases where there is a video evidence, wouldn't it be beneficial for the car driver in the court of Law? Or would the driver still be penalized for hitting the victims?
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The bikers should thank their stars that the Dzire driver had the presence of mind to do an emergency swerve, else the car would have hit them head on instead of the side-swipe. I have no sympathies for the biker. Totally their fault.

Btw, in such cases where there is a video evidence, wouldn't it be beneficial for the car driver in the court of Law? Or would the driver still be penalized for hitting the victims?
The case presumably will still be filed against the 'larger' vehicle for negligent driving and other applicable scenarios, but contrary evidence could help him exonerate himself of blame.

General apathy aside, a lot of genuinely humane people are put off helping victims in need because all it takes is someone to point the finger at you (rightly or wrongly) and you're guilty until proven innocent.

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Happened today near Nehru Zoological Park, Hyderabad. According to news report, both the driver and pillion survived and are receiving treatment.
Most likely the scooter guy did not see the dzire because of the rickshaw and by the time he saw it was too late. He might have thought the dzire will brake or that he will get through before the car. The dzire guy might have thought the scooter guy will brake and tried swerving only to brush past him.

If you see the videos in which one vehicle is trying to cross/ move over and gets in the way of the other, you will notice that the problem is always the fact that both the drivers think they will pass through first and end up moving more towards each other.

In this case too, if the dzire driver had steered in the opposite direction of where the scooter guy was going, the accident would have been surely averted IMHO
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In this case too, if the dzire driver had steered in the opposite direction of where the scooter guy was going, the accident would have been surely averted IMHO
Actual speed may not be apparent on the footage due to camera limitations, but the car seemed fast enough to have potentially rear-ended (or at least come in contact with) the auto if it had swung left instead of right. Also, no guarantee it wouldn't have glanced the scooter's rear on the way.

This accident could've easily been much, much worse.
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Actual speed may not be apparent on the footage due to camera limitations, but the car seemed fast enough to have potentially rear-ended (or at least come in contact with) the auto if it had swung left instead of right. Also, no guarantee it wouldn't have glanced the scooter's rear on the way.

This accident could've easily been much, much worse.
So true Chetan, even the car driver would have noticed the two wheeler coming into his lane in the last moment as his view too was blocked by the auto rickshaw. Car driver certainly avoided a head on collision by swerving away from his lane, but also lucky that no one was coming in the opposite direction as it was a two lane road.
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Btw, in such cases where there is a video evidence, wouldn't it be beneficial for the car driver in the court of Law? Or would the driver still be penalized for hitting the victims?
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The case presumably will still be filed against the 'larger' vehicle for negligent driving and other applicable scenarios, but contrary evidence could help him exonerate himself of blame.
If I were the car driver, I would definitely file a case against the scooter guy. Because of his negligent wavering the mishap took place which resulted in damages to the car guy both in monetary and emotional means.

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A lot of genuinely humane people are put off helping victims in need because all it takes is someone to point the finger at you (rightly or wrongly) and you're guilty until proven innocent.
Absolutely right sir! But IMHO that shouldn't stop one from aiding the victims. More than fear of facing legal aspects, I feel most of the folks refrain from helping because of "Bystander effect".

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You will notice that the problem is always the fact that both the drivers think they will pass through first and end up moving more towards each other.
So true! That's where the insightful differ from hasty folks. All it takes is a little patience. Like they say "Unreasonable haste is the direct road to error".
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Most likely the scooter guy did not see the dzire because of the rickshaw ...
When you can't see, don't go!

Nothing excuses the entire 2-wheeler manoeuvre from the start to its nasty end.
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Happened on 19th of this month near Mahbubnagar on NH-44. A speeding Chevrolet Beat hit a man crossing the road so hard that he was flung in the air and was thrown on to the roof. The car driver kept on speeding up with the body over the roof but eventually stopped by locals. Apparently, occupants of the car fled away leaving behind the car.



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Similar accident happened in January 2016 on NH-65 and was reported here (Pics: Accidents in India).
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Today, I witnessed an accident and one which could have affected me too (fortunately it didn't)

Attached is a gif and also some snapshots from the video
Attachment 1544475
From the video I can see that once he hit, the car's mirror broke down, the rider lost his grip on the handle and fell down. the old lady's head hit the road directly.
They looked like locals of the area and both of them were not wearing helmets.
It also clearly demonstrates the sheer negligence for safety that we see in our rural countries where National Highways run through villages.
Yesterday, I lost my friend in a bike accident. Skull broke and caved in to the brain.
And another friend is in hospital with multiple fractures, but he is coming back ( thanks to that 'useless' traffic police's corruption tool named helmet ). The driver had a helmet while the pillion didn't have it. Again, the pillion didn't survive.
The driver of the bike is a very careful driver. I had travelled as his pillion several times. Never have I seen him driving rash. And this was not a long trip as well. It was office to home trip which is just around 3 kms.

What I'm trying to say is
whatever be the case
  • however good a driver you are
  • however careful you are in driving
  • however short distance your travel is
  • whether you are the driver or a pillion
you don't have absolute control over whether an accident can happen or not.
As the famous saying goes - "50% of the accidents are caused by mistake of the other guy".
But, there are things that you can do to prevent lose of life in many of these cases. And not doing those basic things right is an injustice to yourself and your families and whoever cares for you. Life is too precious to be ignored.

Please make sure that
  • If you are on a 2 wheeler, make sure that you have a proper helmet ( not the for the sake helmets )
  • Make sure that the helmet is properly buckled up. There is no use with the helmet if the helmet flies out of your head in an impact
  • If you have a pillion riding on your back, make sure that he has a helmet as well. You can buy an extra helmet and lock it in your bike. And Pillion's head is as valuable as yours. So, don't buy jugaad helmets to please the traffic police for the same.
  • If there is no option to have a helmet for your pillion, politely refuse the ride and ask him to use public transport.
  • If you are the pillion, never go for the ride without a helmet. Choose public transport and walking over a ride without the helmet.
  • And last, but not the least, do all of the above for yourself and your loved ones, not for the traffic police or the government.

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