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Old 24th February 2017, 09:39   #22861
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But truly speaking, a tyre burst is my ' Sum of all Fears' that I dread on my highway drives. This is one such scary scenario where we absolutely cannot do anything.

I only can hope it doesn't happen to anyone.
If you are not above the speed limit, I think you can control front tyre burst. Don't you think so? Well, that is what I believe. I mean speeds of 80 to 100 will be okay, right. Then comes the question of which car, the tyre profile etc. Hmm, its complicated.

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I have experienced tyre burst, twice. Well, sort of.

The first time was, when we had Opel Astra, most likely 14 years ago. It came factory fitted with GoodYear tyres. Which I believe had manufacturing defect, we had plenty of punctures in first few months. One time, it happened on highway we were doing good speed, suddenly we heard a loud pop, the driver we had then was a good chap, he handled the situation pretty well, pulled over to the side of the road without any drama. IIRC, it was front left tyre that was flat, no air at all. It was a tube burst and not a tyre burst.

Second incident also can't be classified as a tyre burst, after the Indica hit my car, I lost the front tyre pressure completely. I don't remember exactly now but I definitely felt something fishy with the steering before pulling over to the side of the road.

But I have seen videos of genuine tyre burst, it looks a lot scary. It is almost impossible to control the vehicle during front tyre bursts at high speeds, I think.

Anyone else had similar experiences?
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Old 24th February 2017, 09:49   #22862
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I'm not technically qualified to comment, but as per my knowledge, high-end Cars are safe against tyre burst. I'm not talking about the latest Cars, which are more safe, but Cars which are 20 years Old.

Tyre burst is a regular phenomenon in Middle East, due to high temperature and speeds. I did some research and found that only expats die in tyre burst and very few locals. Locals drive Beemers, Mercs, Cadillac etc., and they change the tyres at regular intervals. The steering straightens when it senses tyre burst or wobbling at high speeds. So, the impact is minimised.

Current generation tyres are tubeless and more gadgetry is available. But for the average Indians, the best solution is to check the tyre condition regularly and not to over inflate.

The other reason could be hitting the divider or hard thing as said by @arun_josie..
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I'm not technically qualified to comment, but as per my knowledge, high-end Cars are safe against tyre burst. I'm not talking about the latest Cars, which are more safe, but Cars which are 20 years Old.

Tyre burst is a regular phenomenon in Middle East, due to high temperature and speeds. I did some research and found that only expats die in tyre burst and very few locals. Locals drive Beemers, Mercs, Cadillac etc., and they change the tyres at regular intervals. The steering straightens when it senses tyre burst or wobbling at high speeds. So, the impact is minimised.

Current generation tyres are tubeless and more gadgetry is available. But for the average Indians, the best solution is to check the tyre condition regularly and not to over inflate.

I am quite baffled by this post. No car is completely safe from tyre bursts..!
High end, or low end, or luxury or sports... absolutely no demarcation here. Its just rubber, no amount of technological advancement in your car will help avoid a burst. At most, you can have a Tyre pressure monitoring sensor in your car, which would tell you if your tyre pressure is low - but still won't predict a burst !

In fact, the low profile tyres on these hihg-end cars are more at risk for cuts and damages than few of the economical cars. Maybe buying Chinese tyres as a replacement would elevate the risk. But no manufacturer would sell a car, fully knowing that the tyres would burst.
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I am quite baffled by this post. No car is completely safe from tyre bursts..!
I am not sure if this idea already exists in high end cars. This is just my thought.

To avoid the the impact of Tyre bursts, can't we have a steel or alloy rim (Will call it Metal Tyre for ease of understanding) exactly same as Tyre profile (Size, shape and Treads) and over the Steel Tyre, cover the rubber Tyre.

This will avoid filling of air and hence, there is no chance of Tyre burst. even if in case, assuming it bursts, the car will not get imbalanced because, the steel Tyre will still be of almost same diameter and it will never change its shape. So, there is reduced chance of toppling and uncontrolled median jumping etc

Should this not mitigate the risk of Tyre burst? Is this thought through earlier? Any disadvantage of having this setup?

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To avoid the the impact of Tyre bursts, can't we have a steel or alloy rim (Will call it Metal Tyre for ease of understanding) exactly same as Tyre profile (Size, shape and Treads) and over the Steel Tyre, cover the rubber Tyre.

Any disadvantage of having this setup?
1. This system has been implemented and is readily available in the market - in children's cars, bicycles and tricycles.

2. If implemented in cars, you and your passengers will be vibrating all through the journey.

3. The car will be a rattle house in 1 month.

The basic purpose of air in tyres, is that it provides cushioning - it can expand/contract under pressure. Remove the cushioning and we might as well travel in a bullock cart.
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1. This system has been implemented and is readily available in the market - in children's cars, bicycles and tricycles.

2. If implemented in cars, you and your passengers will be vibrating all through the journey.

3. The car will be a rattle house in 1 month.

The basic purpose of air in tyres, is that it provides cushioning - it can expand/contract under pressure. Remove the cushioning and we might as well travel in a bullock cart.
To add to it, our roads are already in pathetic condition. Now, think of all the metallic tyres ploughing thru them. we can kiss the roads good bye.
AND, you hit the speed bump or pothole and you have oval tyres instantly
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Had an accident at around 9:30 in the morning on Langford road opposite to Foodworld,Bangalore. Was returning home after dropping friends and family at Marriot and this guy on a goods carrier from the left lane, grazed the bumper. Initial quote for damages is around 20k. Though there were no cuss words and no flying fists exchanged, just the driving licences and insurance.

Called Mahindra RSA and it took a few minutes for the call to go through. On getting connected, the first question was about personal injury/ casualty. Professional in all respects, he immediately noted down the address and within 30-35 minutes the tow vehicle arrived. Impressed for the second time with the company.
No towing charges were levied as the vehicle is still to complete 2 years. Hitched a ride on the tow vehicle and reached chrome motors which was the nearest service station.
I have not registered an FIR but have filled up the insurance claim form. The insurance guys are supposed to come on Monday for inspection. Never claimed an auto insurance beforehand, hence i am unclear of the process to follow. Insurance is B2B and cashless.
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How are you able to drive with that terrible reflection from the dashboard ?
Looks like your car needs a new front bumper. The process is very simple , the surveyor checks the vehicle and approves the claim and then the work starts. Since you have zero depreciation cover you just need to pay the compulsory deductible.
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Old 25th February 2017, 16:45   #22869
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How are you able to drive with that terrible reflection from the dashboard ?
It is terrible,isn't it? And this is after vinyl wrapping the shiny bits of the dashboard. Go figure. That being said, it really isn't that much. The dash cam's position paints it worse than it actually is.
However, the YODA definitely needs to join the dark side of the force now, his days in the light on the dashboard are up.
Thanks for the info on the insurance bit. Much appreciated.
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It is terrible,isn't it? And this is after vinyl wrapping the shiny bits of the dashboard. Go figure. That being said, it really isn't that much. The dash cam's position paints it worse than it actually is.
However, the YODA definitely needs to join the dark side of the force now, his days in the light on the dashboard are up.
Thanks for the info on the insurance bit. Much appreciated.
With ZERO dep B2B, you will end up paying a couple of thousands max. However, your NCB is gone. Find out if your NCB is expensive or the repair bill. Also, ZERO Dep is applicable for first one/two damages only. So, if your insurance is due in near future and repair cost is more than the NCB, it makes sens to claim it. If your insurance comes due, say, in next 8-12 months, you may want to save the ZERO Dep advantage for now. Take the calculated decision.
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Just tending on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/ANI_news/status/835498505833697280

Another case of the front crumple zone not being useful. Waiting for more details.

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Another case of the front crumple zone not being useful.
Well no, front crumple zones are not in the least useful when the collision is not frontal.

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Well no, front crumple zones are not in the least useful when the collision is not frontal.

Curious how the car suffered this much damage without a frontal collision. The windshield is almost kaput. There seems to be no damage in the rear also, though the glass again appears to be broken. Mostly a hit on the middle/rear panel of the RHS ?
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At first sight, I thought something had hit it from above!
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Old 25th February 2017, 21:26   #22875
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Well no, front crumple zones are not in the least useful when the collision is not frontal.

Sorry. I didn't word my sentence correctly. Yes, it's obvious that it's not a front-end collision.

Anybody has any information? As Haria pointed out, the rear windshield is broken too.
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