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Old 7th August 2017, 16:01   #24226
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This is wrong.
Only in the state of New Hampshire, there is no need to wear a seatbelt for adults, but a child seen without a seatbelt is an offense.

IN all other states - it is mandatory to wear a seat belt for adults, and the interpretation is as follows-
Primary Enforcement- makes you liable to be stopped if you are seen without a seatbelt
Secondary Enforcement- makes you liable for an additional penalty, if you are stopped- say for speeding and then seen to be without a seatbelt.

As regards Airbags + Seat Belts, I hear conflicting reports and I would only hazard a guess that since the Air bag is a supplemental restraint system- as evident from the 'SRS' printed on the air bags- the idea being that the occupant should not be thrown into a exploding air bag, which could result in severe facial injury.
I am aware of the technicalities as I have researched this topic long back already. Secondary enforcement of the seatbelt is followed in 18 of the 50 states in US where one cannot be stopped for not wearing a seatbelt if that is the only offense. Whether it is mandatory or not, in effect that means that several drivers are practically allowed not to wear a seatbelt. I am not saying that it's a good thing or a bad thing just that that is the way it is and as a result aribag deployment is not solely restricted to wether or not one has worn their seatbelt. Not only because several people are allowed to drive without a seatbelt but also because there are other forces and parameters at play besides I have personally witnessed airbags deploying when one of my friends did not wear their seatbelt in the front passenger seat of an Accord. She did still end up sliding off the airbag and striking the windshield close to the a pillar which lead to her having a concussion on her optic nerve rendering her partially blind for a few weeks by which time it was treated and fully healed.
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The report suggests that the Benz car was moving towards Chennai. If the pileup was on the road towards Chennai possible this would be the correct information!
That seems unlikely. It's the left side & front of Benz which got damaged. This implies that Benz took right while trying to avoid bike and the scorpio hit it on the side. Btw, is this an undivided road?

Considering that the benz driver is a bike racer, it's very likely that it was driven very fast.
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That seems unlikely. It's the left side & front of Benz which got damaged. This implies that Benz took right while trying to avoid bike and the scorpio hit it on the side. Btw, is this an undivided road?

Considering that the benz driver is a bike racer, it's very likely that it was driven very fast.
This happened right by an opening in the divider. The merc must have tried avoiding the bike and turned right, through the gap and onto the wrong side of the road.
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The local news reports in TN pretty much say the same - the local two wheeler rider tried to gun from the side of the road to median making Benz on the fast lane to swerve right, cross the opening in the divider and hit the Scorpio and Indica traveling on the other side.
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Maybe the driver should have been driving at lesser speeds?

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One of the correct answers, the other one would be to ensure appropriate distance between all other vehicles and allow for margin of error. we know bikes swing out at random.

Every overtaking action in India is not an automated task, it needs to be a planned action. - Check, plan, check, signal, overtake
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Every overtaking action in India is not an automated task, it needs to be a planned action. - Check, plan, check, signal, overtake
EDIT: Every overtaking action in India is not an automated task, it needs to be a planned action - Check, plan, check, signal, check again, overtake (and check the mirrors mirrors again while overtaking)

There are idiots who will try to squeeze through even after you have signalled your intent.
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Another accident in Kerala. This time on SH69, at Naduvattam, near Edappal. Two killed in the accident involving a truck and a Wagon R.
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Every overtaking action in India is not an automated task, it needs to be a planned action. - Check, plan, check, signal, overtake
I think this was not an overtaking gone wrong. Biker might have tried to take a right when the Merc was already speeding on right lane. Both are at fault.

I see some resemblance to the dog situation which was being discussed in this thread over the past week. To save the biker, Merc ended up swerving killing more people. These types of news is very common nowadays where much bigger accident happen by trying to save a biker/jaywalker/dog. I'm not suggesting to continue straight ang hit them, a life lost is unfortunate in any case. But a little bit more carefulness from the biker & Merc driver could've avoided this tragedy :(
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But a little bit more carefulness from the biker & Merc driver could've avoided this tragedy :(
Agreed, if there was a median opening, it may be an intersection or for taking U-turn. Even if someone is on a fast lane, better to slow down and prepare to apply brake. Just remove the feet from the accelerator pedal and slightly press the brake pedal to indicate drivers behind that you may apply brake. It may help in preventing a read-ending accident in the event one needs to actually apply the brake.

Preparing for unknown on Indian roads is also part of defensive driving practices. Extremely painful to see loss of life in this kind of avoidable accidents

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Hard to believe the guys in the Benz made it ok. I don't know this location but one must always slow down while passing through a town/village area even if the road looks empty or barriers are in place, etc. Someone or something is always waiting to pop in front you. You get no time or distance for evasive action. Recently I hit a dog, I had no opportunity to do anything due to the plants cover in the median out of which the dog just popped out. I am still running this scenario in my head to see what I could have done to prevent it.

This thread is the most useful one on this forum for me. Like cancer warning on a cigarette box. It always reminds me accidents are not that rare in our country. No matter how good you get, you will have no answer if something just pops in front of you. The only thing that will save you is maintaining low/safe speed which is a hard thing to manage in cars like Mercedes, etc.

I think the toll gates should slap penalty for above 80kmph avg speed. It is not perfect but can definitely deter lot of drivers from over speeding.

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On these highways there are so many who drive in the wrong side, these include regular state transport buses also, to avoid making long detours, and a fast moving vehicle sights these wrong doers at the nth moment and invariably it could have disastrous effect. I make it a point to slow down whenever crossing a small township on the highway since I have seen the results.
Safety is paramount.
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Accident on Freeway Northbound just before Wadala exit in Mumbai. Looks like sudden breaking by Merc

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Looks like sudden breaking by Merc
Rather, Looks like tailgating by the City/Alto/2*Swift.
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Rather, Looks like tailgating by the City/Alto/2*Swift.
Good luck explaining the concept of tailgating to the masses

There is a gap, therefore i must fill it. You see it in queues, in trains and on road. It just makes for some crazy situations
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Accident on Freeway Northbound just before Wadala exit in Mumbai. Looks like sudden breaking by Merc
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Noticed a similar accident yesterday on the Airoli bridge, involving a Linea and an i20. i20 had rear-ended the Linea.
This brings me to a peculiar thing I noticed while driving in Mumbai, after driving in Bangalore. I noticed that most drivers brake late and hard, rather than slow and early. I generally maintain a safe distance from the vehicle in front but not being used to this kind of braking put me in a couple of hairy situations the other day. I tend to brake early and gradually, and had to brake hard in both situations as the car ahead braked hard.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Apart from that, I have to admit, traffic is much smoother in Mumbai than Bangalore.
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