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Old 2nd July 2013, 17:53   #13546
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I know former CM BS Yeddyurappa using a CRV as official vehicle when he was CM. Could be that vehicle. I don't think any other KA politician uses a CRV.
Find enclosed BSY's CRV which he used while he was the CM . it looks like the number doesn't match
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Old 2nd July 2013, 18:17   #13547
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Was coming back from Mangalore to Bangalore on 30th June and saw this in the sakleshpur ghat section. The DVD player and TV were stolen. No casualties i guess.
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It's not a government vehicle. It has a political party symbol on its number plate.
No government vehicle can have any political party symbol anywhere on vehicle.
It must be a private vehicle of some politician like MLA/MP (has a vip number too).
On the Green Bar on the top of the plates it was written - Government of Karnataka.
Although just now I zoomed and saw that it has the BJP Party Symbol (Lotus).

Quite contradictory. Can a party symbol co-exist with Govt of Karnataka on a common space like the number plate ?

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Find enclosed BSY's CRV which he used while he was the CM . it looks like the number doesn't match
Ohh Gaaawd. BSY's car's number plate is heavily Illegal. I guess he is not aware of the rule that number plates should be only in English and Numbers. Correct me if I am wrong.

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On the Green Bar on the top of the plates it was written - Government of Karnataka.
Quite contradictory. Can a party symbol co-exist with Govt of Karnataka on a common space like the number plate ?
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AFAIK, the car is just dressed up as a government car. If it was indeed a government car, it would be under the G series RTO registration. Here it is not. Hence I think it is of a BJP party member who has purposefully and/illegally put the green bar over the number plate. BSYs CRV is a proper govt. vehicle registered under G series and also it does not have a party name.
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AFAIK, the car is just dressed up as a government car. If it was indeed a government car, it would be under the G series RTO registration. Here it is not. Hence I think it is of a BJP party member who has purposefully and/illegally put the green bar over the number plate. BSYs CRV is a proper govt. vehicle registered under G series and also it does not have a party name.
That makes sense. You are right. Govt vehicles have G series, whereas this one doesn't have one. So quite likely that its' a personal car / party car, with illegal green bar and Govt. of Karnataka mentioned, along with the BJP party symbol.
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Why are people thinking that a car fitted with ABS will not crash ?

ABS fitted car will also aquaplane. ABS cannot stop your car from aquaplaning. A car aquaplaning completely has lost control.

ABS just makes it possible to move the steering under full braking pressure.
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Why are people thinking that a car fitted with ABS will not crash ?

ABS fitted car will also aquaplane. ABS cannot stop your car from aquaplaning. A car aquaplaning completely has lost control.

ABS just makes it possible to move the steering under full braking pressure.
Slight correction there.Abs allows you to steer under full braking pressure.
You can move the steering wheel all you want without abs too.
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Slight correction there.Abs allows you to steer under full braking pressure.
You can move the steering wheel all you want without abs too.
Rightly said Mayank,

Also, in this particular case, IMO, it would have surely made a difference if he had ABS (based on what was explained earlier). It gives severability on wet surface at the cost of slightly longer braking distance. The driver realized that the diversion bit later and must have stomped on brakes to cause the skid, there are hardly few, experienced folks who may try to pump the brake in such panic situation.

Also agree, that cars in India must have ABS/EBD for all models; airbags can complement security features like seat belts that prevents further damages after the accidents happen, while I look at ABS as a measure that can altogether help you avoid collision.
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Rightly said Mayank,

Also, in this particular case, IMO, it would have surely made a difference if he had ABS (based on what was explained earlier). It gives severability on wet surface at the cost of slightly longer braking distance. The driver realized that the diversion bit later and must have stomped on brakes to cause the skid, there are hardly few, experienced folks who may try to pump the brake in such panic situation.

Also agree, that cars in India must have ABS/EBD for all models; airbags can complement security features like seat belts that prevents further damages after the accidents happen, while I look at ABS as a measure that can altogether help you avoid collision.
Ill agree with supercars on this one though. If he aquaplaned, nothing would have helped. You're basically a floating steel cube when you aquaplane. No acronym on a car can help you till the tyres hit terra firma again.
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Indian govt. should make ABS,EBD & airbags mandatory like they did in the US.
And not only that, they should also give minor tax-concessions to those vehicles who have these safety features to make those vehicles affordable.
Currently the taxes on the vehicles are so high that owning the low end model of most of the vehicles itself is a luxury for many people. And hence they end up avoiding the higher end models with ABS and airbags.
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Ill agree with supercars on this one though. If he aquaplaned, nothing would have helped. You're basically a floating steel cube when you aquaplane. No acronym on a car can help you till the tyres hit terra firma again.
That's what I have been wondering, I was behind this guy, considerably faster than him, obviously have balder tires than his, had to brake hard seeing him crashing, and still did not aquaplane. So probably having ABS would have helped him in the situation. I totally agree that ABS would not prevent aquaplaning in any way and that's what amused me, because I thought the particular model had ABS as standard (the doubt was cleared later, apparently Micra diesel comes with airbags but no ABS). My concern was that had ABS failed on a brand new car.
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Here is one good video on when you need ABS and when you dont.

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Now, how is that for an ABS demo! Taken from FB!
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Now, how is that for an ABS demo! Taken from FB!
I see the one with ABS off managing to stay in straight path as compared to the ABS on one, which has deviated from the path. Moreover, the former is lagging behind as compared to the latter because of better feet IMO .

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Saw this Octavia being towed to Delhi from Gurgaon.

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