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Old 17th December 2009, 22:46   #61
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Its a natural reaction to come out and scream at the other party but always remember - you are safest inside your vehicle.
With the kind of characters that roam the street, its just not worth losing your life over a small dent.
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Old 17th December 2009, 23:08   #62
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Very shocking & tragic accident indeed. Honda guy should severely be punished if apprehended. Being the owner of a bigger car, the Honda guy probably got pissed off that a Santro overtook him. I see it all the time. People racing on city streets just to prove my car is better/faster than yours. Why we do this free advertising for car makers, we don't know.

In the event of trouble, never get out of the car and confront the other guy in the other car, even if it is his fault. Trying to settle disputes on the spot may cost you your life. You don't know what the other car contains. As was said in movie "Mummy", live today; fight tomorrow. Almost 100 per cent murders are comitted by some one very close like spouse, friend, peer, business partner etc. But road is one place where total strangers kill each other for something as small as honking or overtaking. Be happy with whatever small dent the other guy has given you and move on, rather than step off the car, confront him and be beaten/murdered in addition to the dent. Unless of course you are built like Arnold yourself and happen to be travelling in the company of four more similarily built buddies all carrying AK-47s. In which case God save others from you.

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Old 17th December 2009, 23:13   #63
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the guy in the black honda city must be definitely some politician's neighbour's friend's uncle's son. he has to be taught a lesson, something that he will never forget in his life. dont make life easy for him by giving him just life sentence.
hey man how can you say that. we dont know what really happened
maybe it was the santro driver who blocked the honda city after the incident and the person who got killed jumped out and grabbed the honda city drivers collar who panicked and floored it
what suprises me is the driver of the santro did not note down the reg no of the honda city when all this was taking place.an argument followed by 1/2 km of dragging his cousin and all the time hes behind the honda city?
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maybe it was the santro driver who blocked the honda city after the incident and the person who got killed jumped out and grabbed the honda city drivers collar who panicked and floored it
Hmmm, interesting theory. The Santro driver "blocked" the Honda City, yet the Honda City driver had enough place to maneuver the car out & floor the pedal & get away......all this, after grabbing the deceased by the collar.
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Guys, with all respect, some members have hinted that when such things happen it is best to stay in the car. Yes, if you are with your wife and kids maybe, why take a risk. With friends and few people in the car (like this case here) one can atleast go and ask what the matter is ? Not everyone is going to be dragged like the City suspect did.

Of course "Discretion is the better part of valour" when you see that you might get hurt or any amount of education is going to fall on deaf ears.
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Hmmm, interesting theory. The Santro driver "blocked" the Honda City, yet the Honda City driver had enough place to maneuver the car out & floor the pedal & get away......all this, after grabbing the deceased by the collar.
I don't find it very unlikely. the santro guy may not be a trained blocker, he may have tried to block them enough so his buddy could confront him. and the buddy may have unfortunate to get stuck in window etc. If the buddy got to the window of the honda, In my view he is the one who started the confrontation in the first place.

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Guys, with all respect, some members have hinted that when such things happen it is best to stay in the car. Yes, if you are with your wife and kids maybe, why take a risk. With friends and few people in the car (like this case here) one can atleast go and ask what the matter is ? Not everyone is going to be dragged like the City suspect did.

Of course "Discretion is the better part of valour" when you see that you might get hurt or any amount of education is going to fall on deaf ears.
You don't go and ask "what the matter is" after an accident, whatever that may mean, and whoever may be in your car at the time. You exchange insurance information and inform police so it can be decided who's insurance will pay for whom. If I am not wrong, however bad the police is, you HAVE to report every accident to police to claim insurance.

OR, go start fighting and let the fate decide who lives to tell the tale after that. it's your choice really.
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the santro guy may...., he may have tried to.....and the buddy may.......
Keep guessing and speculating... we all are arguing on what we know upfront from print media and television. Not what we think 'may' have been.
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If the buddy got to the window of the honda, In my view he is the one who started the confrontation in the first place.
Of course, his car was hit by the Honda City. Hence he went to talk to the guy. So ? very normal. When people meet with accidents they don't just sit put in their cars they come out to exchange words or pleasure or displeasure, call the police and insurance companies. The point is they come out. So did this guy who was killed. He came out to do either of the three.

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You don't go and ask "what the matter is" after an accident
Then what do you do ? Pretend to be dead ?
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You exchange insurance information and inform police so it can be decided who's insurance will pay for whom. If I am not wrong, however bad the police is, you HAVE to report every accident to police to claim insurance.
Finally you are getting it. To do what you said, it requires that people communicate and hence the necessity to come out of the car and negotitate with the City guy.
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OR, go start fighting and let the fate decide who lives to tell the tale after that. it's your choice really.
And the City guy did not like the idea of the Police and Insurance and dragged him 1/2 a kilometer to his death.

For me the case is simple. An accident happened. The victim left his car to confront/converse/talk about insurance and police. The suspect caught his collar and dragged him for 1/2 a kilometer to his death.
If the victim caught the City guys collar then I do not see why should the victim catch hold of it for 1/2 a kilometer and risk his own life.
Rest is argument for the heck of it.

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Old 19th December 2009, 22:31   #68
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This may be slightly OT. Road rage incidents (and I see plenty of them on the roads of Pune) always remind of this quote from Viktor Frankl's 'A Man's Search for Meaning':

"Between stimulus and response, there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom."

Would this have happened if either of the protagonists in this particular incident had taken even 5 seconds to cool down and weigh their words/actions? I doubt it.

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Old 23rd December 2009, 13:15   #69
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Road is is exactly what is happening in ths thread. None of us can comment on what really happened, we can only speculate OR we can believe in the version that was thrown at us by the media.

The lesson to learn from this is to be calm. Although that is easier said than done, one cannot but accept that finally it is in one's control to be calm. Many of us can do it and many of us still need to improve. I have seen many posts here wherein people have described ways on how they control anger. If possible we should practice this and stay in control. As someone rightly said here "Life is more important than Tin & Aluminium"
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Old 12th July 2011, 12:28   #70
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Road rage again, a different kind!

Road rage: Vandals beat up techies - The Times of India

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Another Road Rage in Mumbai.

Road rage: Businessman held for attempt to murder - The Times of India
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Remember the Mumbai Police's highly effective crackdown on drunk driving (Drink and drive? Go straight to JAIL!)? That has got to be the sternest action taken against drinking & driving in the country . And the results speak for themselves (look up detailed stats in the relevant thread).

The Mumbai Police does it again, setting an example for other Indian cities & States to follow.

A businessman and his son were arrested for road rage near Mahalakshmi Station yesterday. They have been remanded in Police custody for 2 days.

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A South Mumbai businessman and his son have been arrested and charged with murder for ramming repeatedly into a car irked by the Honda City owner's repeated honking . Amit Valinjkar informed the police that as the Maruti Swift was in his path, he had honked a couple of times. This apparently infuriated Mayur Aggarwal who reversed his car and started abusing Amit for his lack of patience. His father, and brother-who was also in the vehicle-joined in and the two parties got into a heated argument.

At this point Mayur drove the Swift a little ahead, reversed and then rammed it into the front portion of the Honda City. He repeated this thrice even though the Valinjkars were still inside their car. Not satisfied, the Aggarwals then got out and started abusing the Valinjkars again, who by this time were in a state of shock, said eyewitnesses.

The incident lasted for around ten minutes, and a huge crowd had gathered at the busy street junction. A beat vehicle from the Tardeo police station, which was passing by, stopped to investigate. The Aggarwals were taken into custody and charged with IPC Sections 307 (attempt to murder), 504 (intentional breach of peace), 279 (rash driving) and 427 (causing damage to property). They have been remanded in police custody till Wednesday.

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Old 13th March 2012, 17:35   #73
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Now that's awesome!

These road-rage incidents leaving people brutally beaten-up, injured and even dead needs more of such examples, wish Delhi Police wakes up seeing/hearing this as I believe there are worst cases of road-rage in & around NCR.
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If only this is replicated in Delhi and other cities too.

At the same time people should also realise that patience is a good virtue to have. Sometimes a few morons really get on your nerves with all that honking when you are trying to reverse or wait for a car in the parking lot to move and you park there and so on. There are countless such occasions. Even that amounts to road rage I feel since its just pure mental harassment.
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Nice initiative, I must say.

But it makes me wonder what all qualifies as road rage. Anyone?

Say, a bus honks at a car repeatedly from behind even while knowing that he has no space for attempting an overtake on a busy two lane road. Being frustrated the car driver starts slowing down, literally blocking the bus's path and then floor the pedal to full glory. Can this be considered as road rage and the car driver be arrested taking in account that no damage has been done?

PS : The above scenario might sound weird. But I assure that this happens everyday in a Kerala

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