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Old 24th March 2012, 02:54   #31
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Here I would like to narrate my experience in one incident where I had taken a person to hospital (I am lucky enough that I had to face such a situation just once in my life time).
I can't believe that even after him being so rude/ abusive, you yet ended up taking the same chap to the hospital. I would never have done that and left him there thinking, "serves him right". But kudos to you.

And letting the lady fall even when you could've saved her must have really given you some sadistic pleasure. It really is a pity when people jump to conclusions and fail to understand who is the hero and who is the one to be actually blamed (in this case the drunk biker himself.)
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These days you get to see Cricketer SABA KARIM is a ad, in which they tell you should help accident victim and as per SUPREME COURT LAWS no one will ask you a question if you escort the vicitim to hospital.

Things are very much situational, and i feel before you decide to take vicitm to hospital, ensure you do this in view of local shops/houses etc so that you atleast have someone to fallback in case police claim otherwise.

Its difficult as a human being to witness a accident and think calmly the first time you are in such a situation.

India is the worst country as far as road accidents are concerned and we all know many people die in Golden hour.

First priority as Fine69 did was to ensure medical help is reached to the victims , informing police can be done while on the way to hospital.

I am glad all new Bikes/scooters and cars come with a small medical kit which can be put to use in some situations.
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Old 25th March 2012, 09:53   #33
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Coming back from Kolhapur to Pune last weekend, we came across this really cute couple on a heavily loaded Royal Enfield bullet, riding at 100 kmph. I slowed down to "cover" them for a few km, but the pace was too slow for me, so we went ahead. At the toll plaza, they overtook us again... So it went for a few kms, until suddenly, to my horror, I saw them in my rear view mirror as they wobbled, lost control, and then crashed onto the tarmac...

Thankfully, while they were in the fast lane, the road was empty, giving them enough time to get up and get clear off the road onto the median. We stopped, reversed back the few hundred meters, and got down to help.

The next 2 hours were a wonderful experience of the warmth of small town India. Dozens of locals came over to help. We stopped traffic, pushed the heavy bike to the side of the road. Another guy in a Skoda going the other way to Kolhapur stopped and got his first aid kit. A local called for a tempo, and after loading all their luggage into the Endy, and the bike onto the tempo, we took them to Satara, around 20 km away. The local emergency hospital attended to them, dressed them, and took good care of them. The doctor gave them a clean chit, and charged a pittance. The Maharaja Palace offered them a luxury suite, even though they had no money to pay for the advance. The tempo walla charged a minimal 600 for over 25 km of hauling (and going back the same distance!), and was helpful enough to find us the hospital, the Enfield workshop, and the hotel.

Finally, after 2 hours, with their bike safely parked in the hotel parking (the workshow was closed, being a Sunday), their medical needs taken care of, and they safely ensconsed in the hotel room, we bid them Dasvidaniya (Ivan and Julia were Russians, two cute almost-teens, on the way from Goa to the Himalayas!), and continued on our journey.

It's not so bad after all...
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3. For not checking the security guard for ID/wallet -
.... I had absolutely no courage to check him for any money. ....
Dear fine69, you are the only courageous person among the crowd of onlookers. I bow to your conscience.


So far many fellow BHPians suggested to involve Police right from beginning. What are the things we need to safeguard ourselves fully? I'll list the points made so far in this thread.

1. Get contact details of shop owners, home residents nearby who can speak for you.
2. Get someone in onlooking crowd to accompany you along with victim to hospital.

Is this enough?
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First of all I am really happy to see that there is some good samaritan left in the world we live in. I do hope there are many many people like you.

I know a couple of folk who are equally good at heart and went out of their way to help people caught in unfortunate accidents. Their stories are too long to write but just to summarise these good samaritans were so troubled by cops , hospital authorities that it became a real headache for having helped so much so that they swore never again. They did the brave act of helping some stranger caught in an accident out of sheer sympathy for fellow human beings but then the "system" pushed them around so much that they lost it.
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Old 2nd February 2013, 09:51   #36
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All the more, I couldn't be late for the 9:30 am meeting today morning.
Sorry for reviving an old thread, but I found this thread by mere chance, and when I went through the long post, this particular line got my attention.

I don't want to sound critical, whatever fine69 did takes a lot of courage, specially when faced with a crowd. However I want to appeal to any such people: the victims' lives depend on people like you, who have stopped by to help and who possess the power of rational thinking. Please sacrifice your morning office chores or meetings. Your company's business or the strategic decision-making may wait for a few hours, but the person lying before you may not survive that long.

I too have been a victim of this thinking on an occasion or two, however today I know better (again, because of a couple of incidents where I actually helped the victims), and the office or any other chores are secondary to what I can do for the victims.
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In my past experience, I took a drunk rider, who hit me from behind and landed face-on-ground.

I was on my bike and he hit me hard from behind Impacting his front tyre being shoved between the silencer and my rear tyre, both the bikes were joint. This drunkurd was a painter and had no money. Good that he had a mobile, I called his friend who showed up after 4 hours.

I waited in the hospital until his friend came (2AM) at night. Paid around 1500/- for his first aid and left home happily later on.

You really cant help if you see a person injured without any money. Just set your mind to spend some money and in return earn some self-esteem of helping someone.

and please - CALL THE POLICE BEFORE HELPING ANYONE ON ROAD.
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Reminds me of an incident around 2 years ago when driving down the golf course road in Bangalore, close to the le meridian hotel, I noticed a crowd and saw that a young lady was sitting down on the footpath and her vehicle close by. Also saw that there were no women in the crowd, hence decided to stop and check out if some help was required. Took a bottle of water. Not sure how, but she had injured herself and there was some bleeding on her legs. Asked her if she needed help, she said she had called her father. Crowd said take her to the hospital, remembered jain hospital close by. Told a person to park her two wheeler in a near by property, put her dabba in the scooter glove box, took the keys, put in her handbag, put both in car and drove her to the hospital. One kind soul followed on his bike to help further. Got basic firstaid done, doctr saidno fractures, just bruises, and purchased the requisite supplies from the hospital medical store as advised by the nurse on duty, waited some time, police came, made some basic enquiries, told me i could hand over her belongings to them and leave. Decided not to do that and to wait anyways. Her father came quite quickly, handed over purse, told him where her bike was parked, calmed him down a bit when he started scolding her and then kind soul and I thanked each other and we left.

Most times it is as simple as that. Really appreciate the crowd in Bangalore, which is generally very helpful and congregates quite quickly to help.

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My experience is quiet worst in extending help during a road accident. Couple of year’s back, i was waiting in my bike at a signal and a bus was also waiting just few vehicles before me. Once the signal is green, the vehicles before me started moving and a middle aged guy in a bike was driving fast and somehow he was hit by a car from behind and he crashed into the back of the bus. He fell down and had scratches in his hands and legs and severely bleeding. The car and the bus which were cause for this did not stop and moved away. The guy was on the road and none stopped to help him or move his vehicle to the side of the road. The traffic was just moving past him, I stopped and helped him walk to the side of the road and moved his bike also which was lying in the middle of road. You know what happened, the traffic cop came and noted down my bike number and started asking all my details as if i had made this accident. I was shocked and asked the victim to say the cop about what had actually happened, but he didn’t open the mouth in the intention of making me the accused and get some money from me itself. With some help from onlookers on road i somehow explained the incident and convinced the cop that i was not responsible for this accident and just helped him move away from the middle of road. Initially i thought i will take him to some near by hospital, but after knowing his intention i understood that he is a valueless and moved away leaving him there. This incident once again alarmed me to be very careful when extending the helping hand during accidents.

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Old 20th July 2013, 11:56   #40
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With most vehicles being equipped with airbags, I sometimes wonder what we can do to help victims of the accidents to avoid accidentally causing the airbags to deploy, as in this video:

Vehicle manufacturers say that the battery should be disconnected before attempting an extraction of victims from the vehicle but gaining access to the battery itself would be difficult because the bonnet release is inside the vehicle and different vehicles have them located in different places.
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I saw death closely today!

Was driving to work where I was approaching a junction where there was no signal. a young girl of 18 yrs was on heo 2 wheeler trying to take a turn. There was this BMW 3 series that rocketed past me, hit her and went on as if there was no issue at all. I didnt know whether to follow the car or help the girl.

I chose the latter and was the first to reach the girl. She was shaking and bleeding profusely from the head. I tried to pick her up and out her in my car to take her to the hospital. Suddenly she stopped shaking and closed her eyes. For that instant I though she has died and I cannot begin to describe the feeling at that moment. Fortunately she opened her eyes again. Out of 100 onlookers only one couple volunteered to help and the lady sat in the car holding her while I drove to the nearest hospital. Luckily she could provide her family contact details. We reached the hospital her family arrived and the treatment started.

I left shortly because I was heading for work. I hope she makes a full physical and psychological recovery

Few thoughts:
1. I wonder if the BMW driver had any conscience whatsoever to keep driving as if nothing happened
2. Prior to today I never stopped to help. I know its totally wrong. I learnt how helpful some people are when I had my accident couple of years back
3. Somehow today my conscience didnt allow me to drive on without helping her out
4. I m feeling pretty uneasy since the incident. Frankly I am skaken up and am not feeling normal. It may be because my hand was covered in her blood and I almist thought she died in my arms!

Thanks for reading!

P.S. I was always pissed at peoples apathy whenever I saw it in the news or read it in the paper. Probably that was the sole reason why I my conscience didnt allow me to continue.
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Small update:

Just met the girls uncle who had come to collect some papers which were left in the car. Glad to know that she is alright, has reached home and even the CT scan is clear. She has 6 stitches but its a small thing compared to what could have been. She also now remembers the incident which she had no recollection of earlier.

Also the cops found out the BMW registration number. So all is not lost on the police front. Alls well that ends well I guess. Hope the law takes the right course.

The family members also were apart from being thankful considerate enough to not give my contact details to the cops when asked as to who bought her to the hospital.

The honda dio is a total loss case but like someone said and I always say "if the price to pay for anything is money it is the cheapest"
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I saw death closely today!

Was driving to work where I was approaching a junction where there was no signal. a young girl of 18 yrs was on heo 2 wheeler trying to take a turn.
Pal, you have done a very noble thing indeed. Salute your act. Glad to know the Girl is alright.

However, I have to ask the obvious question. Was the girl not wearing a helmet ?
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Pal, you have done a very noble thing indeed. Salute your act. Glad to know the Girl is alright.

However, I have to ask the obvious question. Was the girl not wearing a helmet ?
Thanks!

Yes I believe she wasnt wearing one though I was later informed that she had one on her. Just thinking that had she been wearing a helmet she probably would have come out unscathed.

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