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Old 30th April 2006, 20:37   #16
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Mid-Day Metro Vashi has a very well written editorial about the accident and it's aftermath. Great to know that atleast some organisations manage to look at these things in the correct and logical way.

The story from the front page.

I am really irritated at the NMMC's decision to make those speed breakers on the highway. Fine they wanted traffic to be restored but can they after a few weeks when things quiten down send some officials to talk to the people and teach them to use the subway. Install lights and have a good drainage system so the subway doesn't get flooded and people use it. This precedent set by the government could backfire in a big way. At this rate, we may soon have traffic lights and speed breakers on the Mumbai-Pune Expressway! I mean it's only a matter of time before some villager tries to take a walk across the expressway and gets run over. To calm down the villagers then the government may do the same on the expressway too! Why not close down PWD, MMRDC and all kinds of transportation ministries since anyway decisions are taken by mob rule.
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Old 30th April 2006, 20:58   #17
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Why do these people think that a guy has to be rich to have a car? Cant a normal middle class person have one? It was purely the ladies' fault , for they (the woman had a senior citizen in tow) didnt use the subway provided for crossing. Wonder what happened to the Esteem guy...
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Another Update : The villagers want a foot overbridge built at the spot where the accident took place. When reminded there was a subway a few metres away, they said they cant carry 25 kg heavy loads and walk the few metres to the subway (but they can carry that load and wait for 5 min till they get to cross - amazing) .

And the police and NMMC have promised to look into this demand. (READ - Agreed). Now we will have to pay for the foot over bridge which will not be used at all !!!!!

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India is the only country in the world where citizens demand speedbreakers to solve traffic issues! If there is a subway then pedestrain signal being defunct makes sense. Anyone darting across the road in that event should do at his/her own risk. That should be the policy but then this is India. Here if you don't have a car then you are special. Poor people believe they do a favour on the government by being poor. The general belif is car owners have cars because they exploited the poor people. Decades of Nehru-Gandhi socialism and "poor guy is angel, rich guy is bas****" hindi movies have inculcated this philosophy into our people big time.

There is some conflicitng news about what happened. Mid-day reports that the woman was injured and hasn't died and NMMC officials immediately ordered the construction of a speedbreaker at that spot.

As for burning the car, high time car owners united in such events and burned down a few houses of these people. Maybe then they will realise why it's stupid to burn and destroy other people's properties but then knowing our garibon ke daata governement, they may rebuild a more luxurious house for these "poor" people from our tax money!

Moral of the Story: When in India, no matter how smooth the highway and no matter how little the vehicle and/or pedestrain traffic. Always drive at 50Kmph.






Well said i am suprise to understand when people walk on road and dont use payment. We i ask them to use payment there ans is the payments r not in level . As you said when you stay in india you should learn from these so call poor people abt our indian law.
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Similar situation at ITO bridge delhi
1. SC orders bulldozing the hutments on banks of Yamuna as they are illegal
2. Orders carried out and all the slum dwellors are now on the ITO bridge along the railing
3. 3:45am a lady is driving on the bridge at moderate speeds. A little kit runs on to the road and is killed. The lady escapes because of timely intervention of police, but even then somebody from the mob steals the service revolver of the policeman.

ITO bridge has this pavement sort of thing which is used by cyclists and foot users. Now all these people walk on the main bridge as the pavement is occupied by slum dwellors, and not they are a bigger problem than they were on the banks of yamuna.
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Yes Venkat. Roads have been cleared and traffic is back to normal. Thank God. But the point remains here - why burn the car ?

A few years back these residents of Vashi Gaon , staged rasta rokos at the very spot the accident took place. Why ? because they wanted the govt. to build them a subway to cross the highway. The subway was built and thrown open to public about 2 years back. And till today it lies unused !! No one from that Vashi Gaon bothers to use it. All they do is run across the defunct signal, crazily , haphazardly avoiding speeding trucks / cars et all

So who's to blame ?
Another question,Why burn vehicles and stone buildings ( in b'lore )when the Kannada filim actor Rajkumar died a natural death ! some questions remains unanswered !!
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Here we go. Residents of Sanpada, CBD Belapur and Kharghar are now demanding speed breakers on the highway and are also threatening to agitate because Vashi gaon residents got a speed breaker by agitating! The precedent has been set and now the government has pushed itself in a corner. The article is here:

We can agitate for speedbreakers too

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RS Singh, a resident of Kharghar, adds, “If the only way to get a speedbreaker and a zebra crossing is to agitate and protest then we are ready to do the same.”

Now the main problem is this:

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CIDCO has built foot over bridges and subways at Kharghar, Jui Nagar, and Sanpada but people still prefer to cross the highway.
What the hell is going on?!

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I didn't want to start a new thread over this news report so I am putting it down here. The linky shows how things work in more developed, mature countries where accidents are thoroughly investigated unlike India where the tendency is to blame the bigger vehicle.

A young 6 year old girl was walking along the sidewalk with her mother in Toronto when suddenly she broke free and ran onto the road. A van coming along couldn't stop in time and ran over her. She was rushed to the hospital but sadly, died a few hours later. No charges have been laid against the driver of the van.

This news was all over the TV yesterday and the reporters said that the girl didn't run onto a zebra crossing either so the cops are treating this exactly as what it was: an unfortunate accident.

Source: National Post.

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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I guess the best policy in such cases would be to approach the court. Sometimes out of ignorance, and sometimes out of the need to protect the public property at large, either the police or the municipal corporation or some other authority will have to take decisions to appease the general public. The only sure way to get justice as well as to ensure the right decisions are taken and enforced, would be to approach the courts.

At Mumbai CST, outside the Central station, the BMC has built subways from under the streets. And if you visit the place today, you won't be allowed to walk on the streets. There are security personnel to shoo away anyone trying to use the streets for walking/crossing.

A sustained effort must be made through the courts as well as requests/petitions to the concerned authorities to ensure the vehicular traffic will not face such obstacles. This includes penalising pedestrians as well.

The complaint that the sidewalks are not level is quite a genuine one. You would be surprised to observe the traffic lights may not have an interval for pedestrian crossing. There are no standards or rules regarding this. In my town, I make it a point to wait for the signal to turn red for all the traffic before I cross the intersection. Sadly for three of the four roads the signal does not have a provision for pedestrian crossing. Again, the RTO and the municipal corporation needs to be petitioned or sued if needed, to ensure the systems are improved, and then again to enforce the systems are being used.
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