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Old 27th August 2013, 17:22   #1
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Default Overspeeding Fine of Rs. 1.24 Lakhs in Kerala

In God's Own Country an over speeding fine of Rs. 1.24 lakhs was imposed on a bus operator

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Sources at the MVD said that at one point the bus was moving at a speed of 150 kilometre per hour taking advantage of the deserted roads during the night. Since the bus breached the speed limits at many points out of the 42 points where surveillance cameras and radars were installed, each breach was considered a separate offence attracting fines. And the final amount was Rs.1.24 lakh.
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http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle5047569.ece

I wonder if this can be legally treated as an multiple offence for the same violations?

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Old 27th August 2013, 18:23   #2
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The bus was travelling at night on a deserted stretch, considering how the NH is in Kerala, I am sure the bus was trying to reach Bangalore within the promised time. The cops in Kerala are good at harassment of this sort, socialist hangover I guess. The useless sinecures of the MVD should be asked to present a cost benefit analysis of their latest toys plus what it costs the government to have them laze around, I am sure it would be a net loss.

I know a lot of people think that overspeeding is terrible, but the fact is that if you travel at 70 or 50(the latter is the speed limit every where else), then most passengers will be late for class, work or a connecting journey.

On a different note, has the MVD collected any fines for tipper lorries without functioning tail lights that drive over the medians on highways? I happen to know someone who died because of this.
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I don't think a bus of any type can do 150 kph.
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Old 27th August 2013, 18:57   #4
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I completely agree that its a law that is broken - there is no way other than to fine those who break the limits. However, when we hear about such news, a couple of things come into my mind:

- The NH that connects Mannuthy and Eranakulam is in a very good condition except that it doesn't restrict people and animals crossing the roads at any time. They could have done something for that too. After all, we would have collected approximately 8000 crore rupees in 2012 just from brand new passenger cars' road taxes.

- Is it time that the speed limits are increased in some good roads? On this particular road, its 70kmph now. I wish we had better vehicle safety norms implemented as well so that 100 also is a safe speed for all cars on good isolated highways. One of the prime reasons for building better roads is to reduce time for travelling right.

- I am a regular traveler on this NH between Mannuthy and Eranakulam. IMHO, there are a lot more violations happening that would contribute more to accidents. Umpteen number of times I have seen tractors, trucks, autos and two wheelers coming on the opposite direction, that too on the right most lane! Vehicles stopping across the left lane for a chance to cross the highway is a regular scene too.

I think Volvos can do. I have seen them doing 120ish speeds.

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I don't think a bus of any type can do 150 kph.
A multi axle volvo can easily push 170 plus when empty, my friend(in a Cruze) had a tough time trying to overtake one of these on the way to Bangalore. 150 is certainly possible on a straight empty stretch, wherever it is on NH 47.

PS not promoting street racing here, just stating the facts.
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Old 27th August 2013, 19:13   #6
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Which bus does 150 kmph at night loaded with people? Moreover, 1.24L for multiple breaches. 42 checkpoints mean 1.24L/42 = almost 3k per checkpoint.

3000 rupees for overspeeding (per camera)

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I really don't think a Volvo double-axle can do 150kmh or 170kmh. They do a indicated 130-140, but 150 and above. is a bit hard to believe.

Looks like just how they calculated the fine based on multiple camera captures, they have used some calculation to arrive at the speed.

I am all for the fine for overspeeding because that is something that is totally required on Kerala roads due to the crazy bus drivers who do speeds that can put a decently powered car to shame. It is something to watch them from the sides, but not being in one of them.

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I remember a Volvo Multi Axle bus keeping up with me upto a speedo indicated 150kmh. Roads in south TN are such that you can average 120-130kmh. I think speed limits in deserted highways is nonsense. Ofcourse in city limits, next to schools, town and village limits need to have speed limits. But if you have a speed limit of 80 kmh, your average speed would be abut 30-40kmh. So a trip from trivandram to Chennai which normally is an overnight trip would become 20 hrs. Who will then travel.
However keeping in line with the recent economic policy which is reverting back to the 80's, I think it is very rational. We should ban all cars except Amby, Premier padmani and M800. And all buses except tata and AL.
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Though I am not going to technical aspect this news, I think it is a welcome move. Cops have already mopped up 2.2Cr as fine. Also 90% of the defaulters have been paid the fine.
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The team led by Kerala State Transport Commissioner Mr Rishi Raj Singhon the prowl these days to book traffic rules violating motorists. There was a news item that the Commissioner was contemplating removal of in-vehicle audio and video systems from stage and contract carriages as a move to put skids on motor accidents. Whether, this would be extended to cars as well, is not immediately known.
But even this Commissioner has not set his eyes yet on motorists who blind others with their powerful head lamps in full high blast. Many poor pedestrians get in between this high lux lights unnoticed and their lives are in real danger.

Hope he opens his eyes against these powerful lights.

What goes unnoticed is the fact that the over-speeding Volvo would have been emitting six to eight powerful beams which went unnoticed.

Meanwhile the team had been very active in the Chertalla Mannuthy four lane stretch of NH 17 and there was a news item that 5100 speed offenders are yet to report to the postal summons to pay the fine imposed on them.

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A multi axle volvo can easily push 170 plus when empty, my friend(in a Cruze) had a tough time trying to overtake one of these on the way to Bangalore. 150 is certainly possible on a straight empty stretch, wherever it is on NH 47.

PS not promoting street racing here, just stating the facts.
I remember for sure that the B7R has an electronically limited speed of 104kph or 65mph. This shows as 120 kph on the speedo. Not sure what it is on the B9R/9400XL but I don't think it'll be significantly more than that.
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I remember for sure that the B7R has an electronically limited speed of 104kph or 65mph. This shows as 120 kph on the speedo. Not sure what it is on the B9R/9400XL but I don't think it'll be significantly more than that.
I am not sure about the speed limiter, but the Cruze certainly didn't have any such thing, the bus was empty that makes all the difference I guess.
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Meanwhile the team had been very active in the Chertalla Mannuthy four lane stretch of NH 17 and there was a news item that 5100 speed offenders are yet to report to the postal summons to pay the fine imposed on them.
Ok. Let's say all Volvo buses are fined. What next? Trains are booked months ahead of departure date, tatkal is a big luck, and state transport buses are in one hell of a condition!

Usual sarkar stuff. Won't operate anything themselves, won't let private vehicles operate as well. Average speed of 70 is decent if kerala had good highways. That's not the case either.

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Most of the transport buses/private cars/trucks who ply regularly on the same route knows exactly where the surveillance cameras are kept. And they just lower the speed and once they pass the camera the odometer will be touching the 100. I have seen it and am seeing it almost every weekend to my ride back home from Kochi. And guess the condition of the by roads in Kochi, pathetic is the polished word to explain this. The reason why every other day there are accidents on roads. Hope the authorities take some steps in ensuring that the roads are well set rather playing hide and seek on the highways alone.
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Wow! The Bus was actually trapped on the cameras and on the radars doing high speeds and the driver fined and that too in India

Are these operators aware of such cameras and radars being installed? If yes, they surely took it for granted that these traps do not function or they are going to get away. Or Is it these cameras/radars were installed but were not put into use? Or is it that the Govt. wake up now?

I read someone mentioning that there is a team which is very active on Cherthala-Mannuthy stretch.

If yes, they should have issued warnings to the Bus Driver instead of penalizing him for the same violation on multiple occasion. If he was warned there could have been a possibility of the driver keeping an eye on the speed.

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