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Old 27th December 2013, 11:19   #76
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If you go through the previous page you will find that they have themselves said that the insurance paid out. They then go onto say that the reason it was done so quick was because the air bag didn't deploy!!
This Audi owner gave this reason. Wonder what is the reason given by the elantra owner for receiving the superb!
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Old 27th December 2013, 11:23   #77
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Seems that the lady got a new Audi. Wonder who the insurers were!
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Old 27th December 2013, 12:01   #78
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Why it is so hard to accept that they have made an out of court settlement? Probably because it may result in people drawing conclusions that Jr. Ambani was behind the wheels. And not to mention, that it would hurt the super rich ego of the complainants.
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Old 27th December 2013, 12:21   #79
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Got this as a forwarded message and its doing its rounds online...

"Dear Mr.Ambani,

I am a proud owner of a 2005, Honda CRV. Although the car is in good condition it's old and my family thinks it's outlived it's life.

It's their constant nagging which prompted me to write this mail to you. I know your sense of largesse and your kind heartedness.

If only you could ask your son, Akash to kiss my CRV from behind I shall be obliged. Please ask him to gently dash my car with his favourite maserati or porshe(as the Aston Martin is out of service)
I don't mind being flung on the other side of the divider and still survive. However, if the accident is fatal I know a few of my generations to come will be insured by you.

You be rest assured that in the identification parade by the cops I will certainly recognise the portly driver you ask me to do in place of Akash. There will be no case and Akash will be free to zoom across the city like he always does.

One last request. I would like an upgrade to an Audi Q7 as that's what my kids demand. As for my lips they shall always remain sealed.

True to the spirit of karlo duniya muthi mein

Yours

A true mumbaikar"
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Seems that the lady got a new Audi. Wonder who the insurers were!
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If you go through the previous page you will find that they have themselves said that the insurance paid out.
Insurance company has clarified that they did not pay for new cars.

They have not even inspected the cars so far.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/27990952.cms



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Officials of two insurance companies, Bajaj Allianz General Insurance and New India Assurance, on Thursday, denied compensating the victims of the accident involving an Aston Martin owned by Reliance Ports, a subsidiary of Reliance Industries.

Bajaj Allianz General Insurance had insured the Audi as well as the Aston Martin, while New India had covered the Hyundai Elantra under abasic motor insurance policy.
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Insurance company has clarified that they did not pay for new cars.

They have not even inspected the cars so far.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/27990952.cms
They should have provisioned few bags of cash too, to keep the insurers mum
Blunder by the disaster management team at the company!

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Old 27th December 2013, 12:55   #82
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I think the larger issue here is obstruction of justice. This is looking more and more like a case of shielding the real culprit and producing a fall guy to take the blame. Victims have got brand new cars but through dubious means. They have suddenly withdrawn the complaints without explaining the reason. I mean even if I were to replace my car with a new one wouldn't I first wait for the insurance company to pass the claim? And before that wouldn't the Audi workshop have to assess the damage? And if the damage to my pocket is to the tune of a few lakh rupees, would I be in a hurry to withdraw my complaint?

I think the victims are being generous rather than the RIL. They have simply gotten over the incident, bought brand new cars with their own money without asking the insurance companies for a single penny and forgiven the portly young driver for his rash and negligent act.

It also proves there are people who will replace a damaged Audi A4 with a new Audi A6 without so much as batting an eyelid. Richer than Ambanis methinks.
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They have simply gotten over the incident, bought brand new cars with their own money without asking the insurance companies for a single penny and forgiven the portly young driver for his rash and negligent act.
Mumbai Mirror has statements from "victims". They state that they are happy with compensation provided by Reliance and hence are withdrawing the complaint.
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I think the larger issue here is obstruction of justice. T.
Since no one got killed, I think the though process would be like preparing a profit & loss account and find that it will be profitable in every way:

1. I am getting bigger & better cars for free...who can say no. Too good to resist offer.

2. I am hurt just a little...okay was almost killed, but hey I am not actually killed...am alive & kicking. Why to bother about what could have happened? Just enjoy whatever comes this way!

3. I can boast that I bought this car from my own money after crashing my previous super expensive car!

4. I cannot battle an MNC as big as one involved here in a court...can I?

5. Apart from the new super car that I am getting, the insurer will again pay for the older car that I crashed. Its like 'aam ke aam, guthliyon ke bhi daam'

6. I am fortunate that the one who crashed into my car was from an MNC. It could have been a goon, a politico, a minister or any other influential guy and would have given me a 'babaji ka thullu' (read: not a single dime) and could have even thrashed me black & blue for his own fault. Now, when the luck wants us to have it, why should be object?




By the way, has anyone else tried Reliance Mopz? There is a buy one get one offer on it...
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I hardly find it odd that there were escort cars following an expensive car like the Aston Martin even though an Ambani wasn't in the car. It's taking out 4 crores on the roads un guarded.

Secondly, it was really a generous gesture by the Ambanis or whoever, to make it right by over compensating them. They didn't need to do this given the clout they have and nothing the victims could have done about it.

The victims were "lucky" it was an ambani and not some more influential jerk who would have dragged them thru the system.
It depends on what evidence the victims had. With phones as cameras it is not difficult to have a video or pic of the driver fleeing. Also I am sure there is a pic or a video out there from a bystander, very unlikely no one started snapping as soon as the accident happened.

Knowing the power and reach of such businessmen 1st thing they would use is clout to muzzle any voice.

The point is "In India you can get away with any crime depending on how much money you have". Here even rich can be bought or sold. I don't care who was driving but the law should take its course as a Hit and run case.
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Got this as a forwarded message and its doing its rounds online... "Dear Mr.Ambani, I am a proud owner of a 2005, Honda CRV. Although the car is in good condition it's old and my family thinks it's outlived it's life. It's their constant nagging which prompted me to write this mail to you. I know your sense of largesse and your kind heartedness. If only you could ask your son, Akash to kiss my CRV from behind I shall be obliged. Please ask him to gently dash my car with his ne last request. main sealed. True to the spirit of karlo duniya muthi mein Yours A true mumbaikar"
Ha ha!
That was eye wateringly funny!
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Old 27th December 2013, 16:06   #87
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i find it impossible that a car driven by a driver for "maintenance" late in the light would be escorted with 2 SUVs filled with security guards. (i can understand one - considering it's an expensive car and also for security reasons as it's ambani family car. but 2 SUVs for a maintenance drive - is a bit too much) even if it is, it is impossible that a company would compensate the other car owners with better cars just for a driver. if it is the driver's fault - the company would let him face the music - not compensate by spending close to a quarter less than a crore - at least not for the driver.

another point that is nagging me - if reliance as a company is paying up for compensation so lavishly - is it not answerable to it's share holders? how can a company spend without any justification to the share holders?
and if it's mukesh ambani who is paying out - only question is - why??
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another point that is nagging me - if reliance as a company is paying up for compensation so lavishly - is it not answerable to it's share holders? how can a company spend without any justification to the share holders?
and if it's mukesh ambani who is paying out - only question is - why??
I was just going to say that. It seems the shareholders are not bothered about such minor transgressions by the management and are more interested in the gains they are making in the stock market.
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I was just going to say that. It seems the shareholders are not bothered about such minor transgressions by the management and are more interested in the gains they are making in the stock market.
how is it minor??

apparently a 4.5 crore car totalled and additional 75 odd lacs spent on initial compensation.

interestingly just got to know the MA is not listed as an active director for reliance ports and terminals.
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It can easily be decoupled from the shareholder's interest stating the money to be coming from the personal wealth & not company's.
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