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Old 4th September 2014, 16:37   #16
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I have also seen speed cameras located at the side of the road rather than the conventional position which is on the median. These cams on the road side are hard to notice and this will definitely help generate many fines.
These kind are what we have on the Kayankulam - Kollam stretch of NH47 - hard to notice & easy to miss as one zooms by.

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@supremeBaleno, you have made a good point, however, the problem still persists. Regular commuters are now aware of the camera coverage and behave well in the areas where the Cameras are present, Once out of Coverage area all hell breaks loose.
You do have a point. I am aware of where the cameras are located in the above mentioned NH47 stretch that I do atleast twice weekly. But given the narrow road coupled with traffic and potholes, I neither get to go above the speed-limit nor can look out for the cams since focus needs to be on the road fulltime.
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Old 5th September 2014, 01:56   #17
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As many of the members have shared above that not only for over speeding, the speed cameras can help in creating evidence for fatal accidents too. Having lived in Delhi-NCR for more than 2 decades now, I firmly believe that Delhi has gone from bad to worse over the years. The infrastructure has depleted to new lows and the life of a motorist on the road has become cheap. After seeing the picture below, I as an individual feel that high speed cameras need to be efficiently placed in almost every place in and around entire Delhi.

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Old 5th September 2014, 15:42   #18
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The governance of speed regulation cannot prevent / mitigate accidents. However, It will trigger thoughts in the minds of drivers to be cognizant of their speeds. Cameras are only instruments to monitor. period. Reality is that drivers reduce the speed of their vehicles due to the fear factor of getting caught, fines imposed and not because of their interest in creating safer surroundings.

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"Working & monitored" speed camera may get an improvement but not the solution.

The solution lies in us - 50% of it!

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I echo this thought.

I also want to throw some light on how advanced has kerala become in monitoring speeds. Many of us think we are ok to slow down when we near the interceptor and post that we can zoom past!!. Right?

Well you might want to read the below which I heard from my own family member who mentioned about this which is in practice.

Kerala police have the mechanism to calculate the speed of your car using cameras that will show your locations and time taken for you to travel the distance. Its simple physics put into practice. Let me explain -

Say, you are driving at 120kms per hour towards one direction and you see there is an interceptor ahead and you slow down. Lets call this location as point A. You as per camera hasn't violated the speed rule and hence you don't get stopped. you zoom past , pick up the same previous speed and reach point B where only a camera is present that you didn't notice.. Actually doesn't matter even if you notice it. The distance between Point A and Point B is 10 kms but you covered this in 5 minutes. What was your speed?

Speed = Distance / Time = 120 kms/hr. Got it?

You unaware of this mechanism go home happily and after a month you receive a notice of speed violation.

I was impressed when I heard about this. Of course the above mechanism can be implemented only one single stretch and it prevails only in some parts especially outskirts of Trivandrum. Nevertheless, awareness of this will happen only after people get notices at home.
But my fellow bhpians, let us contribute our bit towards creating a safer environment.

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Old 5th September 2014, 18:19   #19
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Speed is a contributory factor in many road crashes. A driver’s choice of speed can affect the margin of error that are left when he/she or someone else makes a mistake. Excess speed – breaking the posted speed limit – can play a significant part in those crashes.

Most important method to bring down road accidents is strict enforcement of speed limits. In this case, speed cameras play a vital role in controlling vehicular speed and somehow brings alertness in car drivers in respect to getting penalised.
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Speed cameras are at best a deterrent - as such implementations have shown in other parts of the world. They prevent overspeeding but not dangerous driving - which unfortunately can be practiced with impunity even when not overspeeding. Of course overspeeding is a form of dangerous driving, but you have instances of people weaving in and out of lanes - even when under 40 kmph or for that matter jumping red lights with impunity.

The large majority of road mishaps can be avoided by ensuring people do not end up driving dangerously.
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I had watched a documentary on Nat Geo or Discovery, where they showed policemen placing life-size cutouts of police cars at crucial places.
Reminds me of the fake cutouts placed by Mumbai cops - Related Thread (Traffic Cop? No silly, thats a dummy!)



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The distance between Point A and Point B is 10 kms but you covered this in 5 minutes. What was your speed?

Speed = Distance / Time = 120 kms/hr. Got it?
Smart! MH cops do the same thing on the Mumbai - Pune expressway. Instead of catching your speed on the expressway, they'd be positioned at the 2nd toll booth (toward the Pune side). They'd fine you based on how long you took to get from one toll booth to the other.

Indian drivers - as is usually the case - soon found a 'jugaad' . If they saw cops, the toll receipt was mysteriously lost. Cheaper to pay the toll again than a speeding fine, I guess.
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Dummy speed cameras are less of a deterrent than camouflaged real speed cameras.

An interesting discussion we had during my Low Risk Driver Training session:
The tolerance of speed cameras in Australia is 2 km/h - above that, the system captures an image and sends a ticket to the vehicle owner. Now, these cameras are mounted on overhead beams across the road, and can track multiple cars in multiple lanes. Each car is tracked, and times compared between cameras, which are usually at a distance of 5 km from each other.

So, a car may be within the speed limit at one camera, and then the next - but if the distance between cameras is covered at an average speed above the speed limit, one still gets a ticket.

Note that trucks also have the same speed limit as cars, and overtaking a 40-metre-long trailer doing 107 km/h takes a really, really long time, when one is sticking to 110 km/h. We discussed this fact and its implications on safety. Obviously, staying stuck in the overtaking lane for a long time with a 40-tonner rumbling along at almost the same speed alongside you, is not safe - but what to do if the truck won't slow down (legally he is supposed not to race the overtaking car and prevent him from overtaking cleanly, but a big rig will not slow down just because someone's overtaking)? Pick up a ticket at 115 km/h just because you are trying to drive safe?

I was surprised to learn that the authorities have already got this issue under consideration there. So the proposal is to not ticket a car in the overtaking lane (and actually overtaking another vehicle) doing up to 120 km/h - so long as the next camera detects him under the speed limit, and the average speed between cameras is also within the speed limit.

Amazing focus on road safety!

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Sheikh Zayed Highway in UAE. Accidents happen once camera flashes start. People stomp on brakes and cause pileups once they see a camera flash, since they are very scared of getting a traffic ticket.

I hence voted for 'No'.
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