Go Back   Team-BHP > Buckle Up > Street Experiences


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11th November 2014, 12:51   #1
BHPian
 
negativeH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 181
Thanked: 52 Times
Default Pros & Cons: Traffic Challans based on pictures

DTP has started a mass challan frenzy based on images taken off their FB page and also clicked by Cops on the Road.
While the obvious violations like skipping the signal, no seat belt, etc are easy to validate vis pics, what about something like the Stop Line.

Consider the case:
10s of Green light left. You move the vehicle forward beyond the stop line, but someone on the LHS (could be an emergency vehicle like an Ambulance, or an idiot) decides to cut across and take the right turn.
You let them pass, and the signal turns red. Now, you're stopped beyond the Stop Line.

In such a case, an image would only depict one perspective: You're stopped beyond the Stop Line.

If you drive forward, you endanger yourself and other people driving through, and also violate the law directly.

And No, this had not happened to me, so this not a cry-post.

Until lane respectful driving becomes a thing here, doubt there would be a solution to this.
The only way through, once you start driving when the light turns green, stop once more at the stop line, look both ways and drive on if the time permits.

Thoughts? Experiences? Opinions?
negativeH is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2014, 13:21   #2
Senior - BHPian
 
mercedised's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Indore
Posts: 1,061
Thanked: 155 Times
Default re: Pros & Cons: Traffic Challans based on pictures

I am too confused, sometimes the traffic is so much that you end up being in the middle of road even after the green light has passed.
mercedised is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2014, 13:29   #3
BHPian
 
black_rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 268
Thanked: 177 Times
Default re: Pros & Cons: Traffic Challans based on pictures

Quote:
Originally Posted by negativeH View Post
And No, this had not happened to me, so this not a cry-post.
This happened to me in Bangalore. Cop clicked a pic. And I had to pay up the fine. Only because an auto rickshaw stopped in front of me, after I had crossed the stop line when signal was green, to pick up a passenger and he managed to scoot after the light turned red.
black_rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2014, 13:54   #4
BHPian
 
SaurabhSaran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: India
Posts: 124
Thanked: 111 Times
Default re: Pros & Cons: Traffic Challans based on pictures

Challan based on the pics is a better option when compared to Challan based on the car number which Traffic Cops pen down incase of violation of traffic law. Many cases have been reported where the car was not at the location where it was mentioned in the challan on that specific date-time.

On the other hand, there are situation where even pictures do not tell the complete story.

I have been into a situation some time back when I was following a bus at an intersection, traffic light was green and suddenly the driver stopped the bus in the mid of crossing and I too had to stop and by the time bus started again the traffic light was Red

If pic of such situation would have been taken by the cop then it would give an impression that I jumped red light where as actual scenario was totally different.
SaurabhSaran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2014, 14:12   #5
Distinguished - BHPian
 
phamilyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Gurgaon
Posts: 5,581
Thanked: 3,242 Times
Default re: Pros & Cons: Traffic Challans based on pictures

Crap happens. One should get over it.

I once moved into oncoming traffics way to get out of the way of a MTC bus that had to go straight (i was waiting to go right and had waited 5 min to let red light happen and then move from left lane to the right).

Got a challan from Chennai traffic police despite them witnessing me standing there patiently and only for 30 sec giving way to bus in the end.

After that, i will not be surprised by them awarding challans based on FB pics which miss the context completely.

But its okay - i'd rather have five false positives (violations that aren't real violations) rather than let them ignore the other ninety five true positives!!
phamilyman is offline   (4) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2014, 16:31   #6
BHPian
 
hrman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 875
Thanked: 296 Times
Default re: Pros & Cons: Traffic Challans based on pictures

Happened to me twice in Bangalore.

1. Was taking a right U turn from Sony world signal on Koramangala inner ring road. I was not able to complete the turn, just as the signal turned red, so reversed and came back. Got challaned for parking on the white line.

2.On St. marks road, just near Cash pharma, wanted to take the left turn. There was a tempo traveller on my left, because of which I could'nt see the signal turn red. The Tempo broke the signal and went ahead, I stopped just on the Zebra lines. A cop came and clicked a snap and I got a challan a few days later.

Like phamilyman mentioned above, its better to have false positives than ignoring the larger offenders. Cant do much in these cases other than cursing and moving on.
hrman is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2014, 19:39   #7
BHPian
 
negativeH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 181
Thanked: 52 Times
Default re: Pros & Cons: Traffic Challans based on pictures

Yea, the 1% phenomenon is all right. There are gonna be people left hanging, often.

Couldn't they alter the rule somewhat, say thinking out loud, in case vehicle crosses stop line they can stop ahead of it, so as to not obstruct the Zebra Crossing. But I guess this would only result in more abuse.
negativeH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th November 2014, 21:02   #8
Distinguished - BHPian
 
SS-Traveller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 6,564
Thanked: 10,477 Times
Default re: Pros & Cons: Traffic Challans based on pictures

If you have crossed the stop line on green, you are allowed to go through even though the light turns amber or red. Internationally accepted practice.

The only way you can validate that here is by having a dashcam record. Ask the traffic police personnel, and they have no clue regarding the rules. If they can get a still picture of your wheels on the wrong side of the stop line with the light being red, there comes your challan!
SS-Traveller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st November 2014, 20:48   #9
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Hyderabad
Posts: 959
Thanked: 428 Times
Default Re: Pros & Cons: Traffic Challans based on pictures

This is what happens in Hyderabad
Attached Images
 
JoseVijay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th April 2015, 21:07   #10
BHPian
 
sinharishi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Indirapuram,GZB
Posts: 344
Thanked: 461 Times
Default

How does cops trace out of state cars? Today I overshot the stop line on outer ring road. A cop in khaki uniform took a picture of our car. I drive a Bombay registered car in Delhi/NCR.
sinharishi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Leather Steering Cover - Pros & Cons mithun Modifications & Accessories 31 12th July 2016 19:23
Maruti 800 STD & 800 DX..pros & cons ? shapath Technical Stuff 6 21st August 2015 11:32
Radial Tyres - Pros & Cons mithun Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 51 10th June 2013 12:41
Delhi Traffic Police Adalat for Clearing your Challans hocuspocus The Indian Car Scene 0 16th December 2007 07:33
Pros & Cons of low profile tyres? satish_appasani Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 16 17th September 2004 21:39


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 06:01.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks