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Old 21st April 2007, 23:06   #16
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Could this be a faulty suspension issue ?
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Old 21st April 2007, 23:09   #17
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On my favorite fast right-hander, I recently had a 180 degree slip in the Vtec. Somehow, I realised its time to change the stock tyres then.

Good to hear that you (and I) got away lucky.
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Old 21st April 2007, 23:11   #18
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This thursday me and abhibh were doing the 3rd hear@110 and the road ended and he suddenly turned the car and road had sand all over but the car never did anything you are saying
the car was a m800 carb and had stock tyres and the car has done more than 130K and tyres a nearing the end of thier life

nothing happenned at all but can i say that abhibh can i


but you say you didn't do this
speed 50-60 + you turn + u accidently in panic slam a the break because the car understeered a little = a perfect 360

man if this didn't happen you have something wrong with the brakes get them checked asap
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Old 21st April 2007, 23:33   #19
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nothing happenned at all but can i say that abhibh can i
Well ya nuthin happened but the stereo console came off

Everything still fine and M800 breaks are not at all good so better be careful in future. And car is 139K now

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Old 22nd April 2007, 00:14   #20
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good that you are getting your brakes checked, ensure they clean, adjust the rear drums as well as bleed the line for any air bubbles.. in ur case braking with sand might have caused the drift.. if thread wear is on higher side maybe get the tyres replaced also
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Old 22nd April 2007, 00:48   #21
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Doesn't sand give better traction?
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Old 22nd April 2007, 00:52   #22
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nope.. sand is quite dangerous, even more dangerous than water at times
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Old 22nd April 2007, 03:08   #23
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it could be a possibility that one of your disc brake callipers(left or right side) are biting more than the other one or one of gets stuck.so maybe due to braking imbalance the car spinned .
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Old 22nd April 2007, 03:13   #24
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maybe it s all put together...his suspension setup as well as brake setup...360 is a bit difficult..even on sand at 50....
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Old 22nd April 2007, 15:05   #25
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Methinks the sand on the road may have been gravel. Or it could have been sand put there by the Fire Department after an oil spill.

Combined with his jammed brakes & bald(?) tyres with no alignment, methinks the inevitable happened.

Also, amtak, was it really a 360 degree turn? After the spin, were you facing the same direction you were going in the first place, or were you facing backwards or sideways ...?
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Methinks the sand on the road may have been gravel. Or it could have been sand put there by the Fire Department after an oil spill.

Combined with his jammed brakes & bald(?) tyres with no alignment, methinks the inevitable happened.

Also, amtak, was it really a 360 degree turn? After the spin, were you facing the same direction you were going in the first place, or were you facing backwards or sideways ...?

Most overlooked factor Air Pressure. If ur Air pressure is +10 pounds the rated requirement. U can have a drift leading to a 360 with minimal effort a also not be in control of it as in this case.
In amtaks it looks most likely that his car lost traction on turn and the skid led him to steer (panicky situation) and unknowingly stepping on clutch and locking the brakes (obviously he steered too much to avoid the neighrbouring walls on either side)
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Old 22nd April 2007, 18:07   #27
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Doesn't sand give better traction?
No way man you got your facts wrong in dubai when we go to sand dunes we deflate our tyres s to have better traction it maybe sometime more dangerous to drive over sand than water
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Old 22nd April 2007, 18:59   #28
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Answers to the some of the questions:

The spin was almost 360 degrees as I faced the same direction after the spin.

I had filled the air in the tires the same day (28Psi for the zen). I would get the car tomorrow afternoon and then only I can give the exact details as why that spin happened as I have asked the service guys to check the brakes, steering column and the suspension as well...As mentioned earlier, I had noticed that the car was drifting to one direction for the past couple of days (despite the wheel alignment) and the tires loosing the air almost daily...

Lets hope for the best...

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As mentioned earlier, I had noticed that the car was drifting to one direction for the past couple of days (despite the wheel alignment) and the tires loosing the air almost daily...
Probable problems/causes:

1. Wheel Alignment problem.
2. Suspension issue.
3. Puncture in tyres (If they are tubeless)
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Old 22nd April 2007, 19:37   #30
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Checked your wheel bolts for tightness? Could be a really, really loose wheel even...
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