360 Degrees Twist and Turn - Team-BHP

amtak · 21st April 2007, 07:27

Over the past couple of days I could feel that the braking of my car was a bit slow and the tyres had started making a loud screeching sound and also the brakes. Yesterday night while coming home after dropping a few friends of mine, just about 500 meters from my place this incident happened and I cosider myslef lucky to have survived. I was crusing along at 50-60 KMPH and took a turn in a broad wide lane that leads to my building. However, as fate had decided, my car had a skid and went almost off the road towards the wall (There are walls on both the sides of the lane). somehow I managed to braked hard but the car almost roatated 360 degrees before coming to a halt....I cosider my self lucky as the car did not flip or turn at that speed as it had a quick very quick spin on the road...lukicly it was past 12 and there were no cars or trucks on the road...

Now What should I do...My car is going for servicing TODAY and I feel that the brakes are a bit jammed (the car is running perfectly)

Kindly advice..

Kudos to Maruti for making a stable car!

khaadu75 · 21st April 2007, 10:22

a 360 at 50-60 ????? Man, what exactly did you do , which car was it ---- even a M800 can take a sharp left at that speed without even twitching .

Are you sure you didnt sit on ur brakes mid way thru the turn or so ..... ???

mclaren1885 · 21st April 2007, 10:27

In addition to khaadu's question are you sure you didnt engage the handbrake ? Because its tough to fathom a zen doing a 360 around a bend . Yes , even with bald tyres . Even jamming the brakes mid corner would lead the car to spin to say about 90 deg but less than 180 deg .. So I have seen on track ..

Kindly get better tyres and change your brake pads if that is the case ..

Jay · 21st April 2007, 12:56

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Originally Posted by khaadu75

a 360 at 50-60 ????? Man, what exactly did you do

Exactly what i too felt when i read the post... was the road wet ?

Godfather · 21st April 2007, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Jay

... was the road wet ?

even if the road was wet this will not happen..

Godfather

amtak · 21st April 2007, 13:32

The Road had Sand on it. I had to apply emergency brakes...and I didt expect it to go that bad...someone the car stopped without flipping...but now I know...sand on the road is BAD for cars as it is for the bikers...

amtak · 21st April 2007, 13:34

UPDATE: The service guys are now checking the brakes and they said I'll get the car only on Monday...they were talking something abt the calipers...or something like that...

mclaren1885 · 21st April 2007, 13:36

Sand on the road , hard braking meaning locked wheels , hand brake and bald tyres .. Now i get the drift ?? Wait or was it you who almost drifted into the walls ?? Lol .. Honestly , get your brake checked and your tyres replaced immediately ..

amtak · 21st April 2007, 13:40

Yeah, since the service was due today only, I asked them to take the vehicle and now its at the service center...I didnt use the HAND brake and still that bad drift...I am now sure if I had used it, The car would have gone for the repairs

instead of service!

amtak · 21st April 2007, 13:43

Can someone guide me why do the tires make that screeching sound even on normal drives while turning...does it mean they need to be changed. 3 months back when I had shown the car to the JK tires guy, he said they should last about 1 year more. My car is done close to 30K in 2 years

Jay · 21st April 2007, 14:16

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Originally Posted by amtak

3 months back when I had shown the car to the JK tires guy, he said they should last about 1 year more. My car is done close to 30K in 2 years

Its easy for people to say it'll last for more than a year, but it all depends on how you use them...
30k with the same set of tyres ? usually they should come for 35-40k kms without any trouble ( normal use )...

Jay · 21st April 2007, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godfather

even if the road was wet this will not happen..

Bald tyres, wet road... you can expect this to happen.

amtak · 21st April 2007, 14:26

The Tires are good (I am now assuming, Monday I'll get the updates from the service guys)

karthik247 · 21st April 2007, 22:41

Isn't the emergency brake (E-brake) the hand brake? Cuz u just said u used it..

rks · 21st April 2007, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by amtak

Can someone guide me why do the tires make that screeching sound even on normal drives while turning...does it mean they need to be changed. 3 months back when I had shown the car to the JK tires guy, he said they should last about 1 year more. My car is done close to 30K in 2 years

Could be that your tyres are bald and not gripping, as others have pointed out. Another possibility is that your tyre pressures are very low. I would expect your car to spin around a bend even at 60 kmph if your tyre pressures were abnormally low or one of your tyres suddenly went flat. If you have tubeless tyres maybe one or more of your tyres has a slow puncture, leading to abnormally low tyre pressure (it is difficult to spot this unless you actually measure your tyre pressures). I had a slow puncture in one of my tyres and I guessed it by observing the sidewall bulge -- it was much more than in other tyres.

Anyway it is good that you sent your car for service. It is in need of a thorough check-up, including suspension, steering, brakes, wheels/tyres, etc.

Edit: Do you rotate your tyres regularly? One possibility that I can think of is when your rear tyres are much more worn out than the front tyres, leading to oversteer.

21st April 2007, 07:27	#1 (permalink)
amtak BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fulltime Mumbaikar...Yippie!!!! Posts: 832 View My Garage	360 Degrees Twist and Turn Over the past couple of days I could feel that the braking of my car was a bit slow and the tyres had started making a loud screeching sound and also the brakes. Yesterday night while coming home after dropping a few friends of mine, just about 500 meters from my place this incident happened and I cosider myslef lucky to have survived. I was crusing along at 50-60 KMPH and took a turn in a broad wide lane that leads to my building. However, as fate had decided, my car had a skid and went almost off the road towards the wall (There are walls on both the sides of the lane). somehow I managed to braked hard but the car almost roatated 360 degrees before coming to a halt....I cosider my self lucky as the car did not flip or turn at that speed as it had a quick very quick spin on the road...lukicly it was past 12 and there were no cars or trucks on the road... Now What should I do...My car is going for servicing TODAY and I feel that the brakes are a bit jammed (the car is running perfectly) Kindly advice.. Kudos to Maruti for making a stable car! __________________ E V O L V E D!

21st April 2007, 10:27	#3 (permalink)
mclaren1885 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 3,796 View My Garage	In addition to khaadu's question are you sure you didnt engage the handbrake ? Because its tough to fathom a zen doing a 360 around a bend . Yes , even with bald tyres . Even jamming the brakes mid corner would lead the car to spin to say about 90 deg but less than 180 deg .. So I have seen on track .. Kindly get better tyres and change your brake pads if that is the case .. __________________ I am proud of you, binzy boy !!! Keep up the good work.

21st April 2007, 13:32	#6 (permalink)
amtak BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fulltime Mumbaikar...Yippie!!!! Posts: 832 View My Garage	The Road had Sand on it. I had to apply emergency brakes...and I didt expect it to go that bad...someone the car stopped without flipping...but now I know...sand on the road is BAD for cars as it is for the bikers... __________________ E V O L V E D!

21st April 2007, 13:34	#7 (permalink)
amtak BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fulltime Mumbaikar...Yippie!!!! Posts: 832 View My Garage	UPDATE: The service guys are now checking the brakes and they said I'll get the car only on Monday...they were talking something abt the calipers...or something like that... __________________ E V O L V E D!

21st April 2007, 13:36	#8 (permalink)
mclaren1885 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 3,796 View My Garage	Sand on the road , hard braking meaning locked wheels , hand brake and bald tyres .. Now i get the drift ?? Wait or was it you who almost drifted into the walls ?? Lol .. Honestly , get your brake checked and your tyres replaced immediately .. __________________ I am proud of you, binzy boy !!! Keep up the good work.

21st April 2007, 10:22	#2 (permalink)
khaadu75 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: same as the proposed venue for F1 ;-) Posts: 1,166 View My Garage	a 360 at 50-60 ????? Man, what exactly did you do , which car was it ---- even a M800 can take a sharp left at that speed without even twitching . Are you sure you didnt sit on ur brakes mid way thru the turn or so ..... ???

21st April 2007, 13:40	#9 (permalink)
amtak BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fulltime Mumbaikar...Yippie!!!! Posts: 832 View My Garage	Yeah, since the service was due today only, I asked them to take the vehicle and now its at the service center...I didnt use the HAND brake and still that bad drift...I am now sure if I had used it, The car would have gone for the repairs instead of service! __________________ E V O L V E D!

21st April 2007, 13:43	#10 (permalink)
amtak BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fulltime Mumbaikar...Yippie!!!! Posts: 832 View My Garage	Can someone guide me why do the tires make that screeching sound even on normal drives while turning...does it mean they need to be changed. 3 months back when I had shown the car to the JK tires guy, he said they should last about 1 year more. My car is done close to 30K in 2 years __________________ E V O L V E D!

21st April 2007, 14:26	#13 (permalink)
amtak BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fulltime Mumbaikar...Yippie!!!! Posts: 832 View My Garage	The Tires are good (I am now assuming, Monday I'll get the updates from the service guys) __________________ E V O L V E D!

21st April 2007, 22:41	#14 (permalink)
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: TVM Posts: 2,268 View My Garage	Isn't the emergency brake (E-brake) the hand brake? Cuz u just said u used it.. __________________ Slow and steady wins the race... But there is nothing like a 300kmph dash to the line!!

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