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|4th May 2007, 11:35||#17|
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Hey man, sorry to see the damage but glad that you are safe; take it easy in the rains if your view is obstructed by the car in front..........
|4th May 2007, 11:47||#18|
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hey man its nice that u didnt hurt urself. Brakes r very important dude , even in my car i feel a little hesitant when it comes to breaking.. highspeed braking is very good but low speed braking is too soft n i have no idea why..
|4th May 2007, 11:52||#19|
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Secondly, you say "If you have ABS try and brake hard, once your wheels lock....release the brake pedal and then hit on the brake again and again.". This is exactly what should not be done when you have ABS; you should hit the brake pedal hard and hold the pressure and the pumping will be done automatically by the computer to prevent the wheels from locking. Perhaps you meant "If you do not have ABS....".
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|4th May 2007, 14:22||#20|
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Good to know you're safe.
Just one thing - I couldnt help but notice that you've taken the car to Metro ford. Not the best place in my opinion. Not after what's happened to Shivasuma. Good luck.
|4th May 2007, 17:03||#22|
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Now I am sure you have your experiences and I have mine. Thanks for sharing your information.
P.S The test cars we used were either a Ford 150 Pick up truck or a Toyoto Land Cruiser, both with ABS and VDC (Never really knew what the VDC did though )
|4th May 2007, 22:23||#23|
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I have driven a fair bit on Snow at Chicago and Indianapolis. Infact participated in a demonstration that under slippery condition ABS always makes cars stop faster (non ABS cars being pulse braked by the drivers).
My own cars did not have ABS and though I still used to be faster than all my friends cars with ABS, (but that was more due to higher cornering speeds and differences in bodytypes coupe versus sedans) but their cars used to stop and steer under braking much more convincingly.
Only thing was the jarring brake pedal which was very annoying. But newer ABS cars dont annoy as much.
So I second rks to the last dot.
I am not sure Garfield about your observation, goes directly in contrast to mine.
|5th May 2007, 00:19||#24|
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Thanks everyone for ur wishes and concern...
There's a couple of things I had to add/ask: (sorry to break from the ABS discussion guys!)
1) Do Cauvery Ford and Metro Ford have separate body shops? I always thought they had a common body shop in Yeshwantpur...anyways, thanks for whoever suggested that I check with Cauvery for the headlights - I took the guys' claim that no one in BLR has them in stock at face value (stupid I know, but I was busy at the time and had to get off the phone).
2) I'll disclose the final repair cost and what I get outta insurance for this incident (I had switched to Bajaj Alliance in Nov. 06 since they have a cashless facility with Metro Ford)
3) Yes, I've heard bad stories about Metro Ford, BLR but they've always pulled thru for me. Plus they're closer for me than Cauvery!
4) Coming back to braking:
Man, I always thought I had it set in my mind that in emergency braking situations, I'll drop (very quickly) to the lowest gear possible, slam the brakes as close to locking (but not locking) as possible, and, if the road allowed, try to veer quickly to one side to avoid frontal damage.
If I had maybe 1.5 seconds more on the braking distance that day, I MIGHT have been able to pull these off, MAAAYBE...however, as u can see, this was not meant to be...
Viper, u asked why my brakes were faded.....they had been a little low on fluid and the front discs might have had some accumulated dust.
Which is why I said, always keep in mind your brakes' abilities and drive accordingly! And with an Ikon 1.6 that comes with Flair brakes, that's hard to do a lot of times!
|5th May 2007, 12:57||#26|
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|5th May 2007, 13:08||#27|
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sad to hear about the accident...
my dad's ikon had met with an accident and he required left side headlight ... could not find it in showroom ... finally next to russell market and got it... as u r claiming insurance i think you could not do the same..
|7th May 2007, 10:39||#28|
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Dont know about Metro, but Cauvery has a body shop on their campus (right term??) located on Kanakpura road.
Hope that helps.
|7th May 2007, 11:54||#29|
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my two bits here,
everone seems to have discussed pumping brakes, pulsing brakes,prachute brakes and ABCD brakes, forget the technology and just go for distance dudes
you can put Brembos on your car, but the the rain the braing distance will always be greater regarless of whether you lock or dont lock brakes.
the momment it starts pouring down, you have to give a lot more room for stopping.
sorry to hear about the accident man better luck nest time,
but from what you say the scorpio was much faster and stopped earlier,
i wasnt there, but from what i'm reading, the distanc eyou were keeping off the scorpio had a lot to do with it
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|7th May 2007, 13:53||#30|
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I don't think this has anything to do with tyre quality, abs or any such thing. This is more do to with the state of mind in which we drive our car in city traffic.
We get desperate, and fight for that last inch of space. Most of the time we don't give enough gap with vehicle in front of us. It is these things that get us in such incidents. I have been involved couple of such accidents and both instance were completely avoidable, if the drivers were little patient. But then as some one said, hosur road is a mess. I am pretty sure some one would have jumped infront of that scorpio to cross the road.
BTW, scorpio wouldn't have escaped unhurt from this. The bumper lies almost all the time. Only after removing the rear bumper of scorpio we can be sure of anything.
vezj420, hope the car will be back in shape pretty soon.
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