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Old 30th July 2007, 01:18   #16
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Razor, I very much agree with what Zappo and you said, and most of the times I have done the same, because that time i was at fault. But this time I had all the documents and when you know you are rightly equipped it gives you immense confidence. As far as the drama plot is concerned, yes, I must admit that I had great backup names of district collector and Pune DYSP with me, but I hate to use their names in such cases. I could have just uttered any of their name, just could have made a single call and done !!!... Not in my dreams would I like to take the job of that cop away from him, and it is a pity on us if we use our backup for such stupid corrupt cops. Yes, had they done something of that sort (mentioned by Zappo), I would have gone to any extent...thats for sure.. and lemme tell... Its not that only we have our skin to save... They have their skin to be saved... and they have their job...they have their everything on stakes...when they do corruption...but we common people dont realise that they can also be at threat and succumb to pressure..thats it...

The moment you realise that these corrupt cops KNOW very well that it can cost them their job dearly... you get on the top of them..thats it..

On the lighter side, many a times in Nagpur we have done this thing on bike, as, it was all very well planned before... and whenever any of us get caught in their hands while on bike, we just get into a loud debate with them and take some powerful politicians or policemen's names and make a mock phone call to any of them (does it matter when the person picking up the phone is one of our friend only ).... and believe me guys....100 % times that technique was successful there.... the one who does something wrong...and has wrong intentions....fears the most than the one who is right in his place....always remember...just get on the top of them....
I know what you mean my friend... about getting one over the corrupt cops. Trust me, I would love to do that.
However, sometimes, you gotta play it safe. Like Zappo said, I wouldn't play around with them. If they want originals, and you got them - produce them. Don't tease them with copies, attested or not. The phone calls you mentioned (fake or not) should be a last resort. And about ringing up a friend and pretending to call a powerful figure... well I have seen it backfire in front of me, and trust me - it ain't pretty when that happens!

I think you can be very proud of what you did... stuck to your principles, put the corrupt cop in his place. But at the same time, you gotta admit that you were a bit lucky. Maybe some other cop would not have taken his humiliation so lightly. My 2 cents, for what it's worth
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Old 30th July 2007, 12:03   #17
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Yeah RAZOR...... I am not going to do that again. That was just a revenge taken....and yes I was a bit lucky, but I believe luck always be with the one who is right in intentions. Definitely I will not test the poison again. And prevention is better than cure..so..I will carry all the required docs and follow the rules as far as possible...because on highways...rules are NOT meant to be broken...
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Read this guys - I got caught sitting in the front right seat merrily talking on my mobile. The car stopped, the cop stands outside my window, I ask him by sign language what he wants, he replies by sign language "you are talking on the mobile". I calmly finish my conversation, open the window and he starts as usual. I calmly listen and tell him - Mobile par baat kiya --- toh ? He says - allowed nahin hai. I ask - kaun bola ? Then I calmly showed him the steering wheel position. My car was LHD and my driver was just sitting and staring at nothing in particular. We all had a good laugh, we just waved good naturedly to the cop and drove off. The cop also waved to us. There was nothing to it.

HaHaHaHa.

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Old 30th July 2007, 13:48   #19
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sforsarang- amazing...i was completely speechless after reading ur piece...very good planning, thinking on ur feet and excellent narration...

key learning was - to have a photocopy and an attested one for all docs readily kept in the car...!! good one..
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A friend of mine was telling me that if two cops testify against you, you have had it. The court of law will accept the word of two arresting officers, hcen tehy hang around in pairs. One testifies and the 2nd verifies - you can get thrown into the slammer.
:( but... the reprive comes in the form of the lawyer- any confession taken in the police station is not admissable under IPC as it could have been taken after torture. However - confessions taken in front of the magistrate can be admissable and valid in the the court.
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Read this guys - I got caught sitting in the front right seat merrily talking on my mobile. The car stopped, the cop stands outside my window, I ask him by sign language what he wants, he replies by sign language "you are talking on the mobile". I calmly finish my conversation, open the window and he starts as usual. I calmly listen and tell him - Mobile par baat kiya --- toh ? He says - allowed nahin hai. I ask - kaun bola ? Then I calmly showed him the steering wheel position. My car was LHD and my driver was just sitting and staring at nothing in particular. We all had a good laugh, we just waved good naturedly to the cop and drove off. The cop also waved to us. There was nothing to it.

HaHaHaHa.

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that must have been the most amazing sight. Sometimes the cops also take it in the right spirit.
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Old 30th July 2007, 14:11   #22
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@Sforsarang, that was a pretty good thing you did. Same thing happened to me,exact dialogue by dialogue during my trip to Goa in Dec'06. I was taking the bypass from solapur towards while going to Goa and my cousin was driving my car and we were stopped by these 2 corrupt police chaps and my cousin had xerox of his license and we went through the same rigmarole and my cousin is an agressive guy and started abusing saying "sala tum corrup officers et.et". It became kind of serious and we asked him to show the rule book and said we will go to the police station and talk to his senior officers and then we went along with them to city PS and argued with his seniors and got the fine reduced from 1K to 300 bucks. We lost a good 2 hours for this crap episode.

While coming back from Goa, it was dark around 9pm and i was on my phillips blue vision, those same two cops standing exactly at the same place immediately identifed my car this time driven by me and followed us 5-6km inside the solapur city on their bike and cut me off from the front ( since we planned to stay over the night) and same story again, license, RC, then Pollution check ( i told him my car is 3 months old ) and finally he could not get any other points so said, your lights are illegal, its not allowed in Maharastra and finally made us pay another 300 bucks.

But, on both times, we made him sweat for that money and i didnt want to pay even that amount as we carried all our papers but since our spouses were along with us and wanted to cut short the drama, shelled out the dough.

In short, these cops are har**i to the core and despite having all papers they will harrass you into paying some money for sure.
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I agree with what Zappo said. The best thing you can do is 'manage' their ego. If you are in Maharashtra, mainly in Mumbai, try to speak with them in Marathi. If you can't, atleast speak in Hindi. English is total no - no. Speak like well behaved, educated, middle class. Speak calmly. Give some respect to them. The chances are they will be also kind to you.

There were two occasions whre they actually gave me a 'warning' instead of challan or fine, even though I was guilty of whatever they were saying. Ofcourse this is not always true, some cops will anyway try to extract as much as possible.
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Way to go!!! Keeping your calm, and providing all the requested papers.. thats the most subtle way to get back at the maamus !!

The problem with almost all cops is that,when they open their mouth and get started with the bakwaas, it makes one's blood boil. The minute the cop sees a Rs100/500 note..he's all happy and becomes your new-found-friend.

Wonderful job..i must say!
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Well done buddy, since you have the contacts of influential people you can take chances.

I was once stopped by a traffic cop, I had the Insurence in xerox and the RC in xerox, license and the PUC in original. As expected, the cop tried to play a foul, i went on to argument with the cop, me saying that I have a point, cant carry the originals with me, What would I do if the bike is stolen???

I didnt had any contact numbers/names of any influential people, just took the cop to a stationary shop with me, gave a call to the Telephone directory assistance and enquired about phone number of Traffic Police Commissioner. Got the number and was explaining to the shop-keeper that the call will not be charged as it was a toll-free number, turned around, the cop is not seen anywher.

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..... Yes, had they done something of that sort (mentioned by Zappo), I would have gone to any extent...thats for sure.. and lemme tell... Its not that only we have our skin to save...
well said buddy, i too would go to any extent if in such a case, now that I have a very good contacts in hyderabad city.

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Good reading, but be careful.

And Mr Dhabar, didn't he give you a case for passing on the steering to the passenger on the left. (Yes was yu car marked Left Hand Drive? There was seemingly an offence to drive a LHD car without those words at the rear)
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