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Old 15th December 2007, 09:37   #31
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I recently talked with my local M.A.S.S works manager and he told me several details. All new engines are run for couple of hours continously without any load to check for any problems. If no problems are detected, then they are plonked into the car. Then the car itself is test driven for few KMs in factory track to test the overall working of the car. If nothing is amiss, then they are sent out for delivery in trucks.

The reason why Maruti insists on oil change in the first 1000Kms is this. The engine still contains the very first oil which was used in the no-load test and later test drive. This will have all the metal shaving from the time when engine started working. Maruti doesn't change the oil just before delivery.
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So its agreed that the odometer reading you get on your car is to be believed with a pinch or fist of salt. This BTW is a practice with almost all manufacturers save maybe the high end premium cars.

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Old 15th December 2007, 11:26   #32
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Guys, running is not only about the engine, right? Even the cars parts need to be run in. Thats why its said dont corner hard, dont brake hard in the first 1000kms. Its more to do with just the engine. We should even run in the tires.
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I would say that Honda people do take care while handling customers' car.
My cousin who stays in Jamshedpur bought a NHC cheers:. Anybody in that area planning to buy that car has get it from Allahabad. There are two options of doing it-
1. You go to Allahabad and drive it down yourself/book it on a trailer.
2. The dealership sends their own driver to do that on an extra charge of Rs4500.

My cousin opted for the second option, becase he could not take out the time to go himself and secondly and more importantly, it was the dealerships responsibility to deliver the car at his door step devoid of any scratches or problems.

The point is that these guys take pains to drive it carefully, so that nothing happens to the car till the time it reaches the owner.

As far as registeration is concerned in North India, the car is not sent to RTO by the dealers. They give a temp plate to the owner and it take around 15 days for the permanent regd.
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What did I learn from this and more importantly the guy who wrote it ?

Do not drive your Swift on that road or everyday someone will be racing you in someone else's car.

I also know the pain as Factory Test Drivers use to fly the Ford Escorts over huge Speed Breakers but actually that motivated me to drive as fast as him. I never try to jump my car over a speed breaker though as I would like to keep my car forever and I do not have a lot of money or time to spend uselessly on repairing the car.

btw what did you mean by shifting the car into second at 10 kmph ? Would I not be going uber slow.
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Old 17th December 2007, 01:04   #35
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Do not drive your Swift on that road or everyday someone will be racing you in someone else's car.
I was not racing him, just trying to see what speed he was doing and was he racing?

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btw what did you mean by shifting the car into second at 10 kmph ? Would I not be going uber slow.
That is in the first 1000kms for the run in.
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Old 17th December 2007, 15:59   #36
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Not only this, when you leave for servicing or valet parking you shoould see the way these guys drive.

When leaving my car for service I insist that the test drive be done upfront in front of me if its required. I DONOT sign where it says its the owner authorises the service station to take the vehicle for test drives.

And for parking I ask the guys where they park and then park it myself.

You can never be too careful..

Despite all this i have got a couple of small nicks on the Bumpers when I had left this for service, I guess they cant even drive safely even when parking inside the garage
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Old 21st December 2007, 23:40   #37
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That means if we pressurise the dealer they will spoil our car.Is that the way a dealer should do?Even they have the pressure no need to push to the rev limit.
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I accept with quote of Ram(Hyundai). It is customers who ask the cars with in a specific time with out understanding the costrains of the employee of a dealership.
Each business has got its own negatives. I am sure it must be same even with yours.
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What a Job! Who wouldn't love to thrash someone else's brand new car and be paid for it. To add to the perk, I would probably tell the owner, " you know when I was bringing this from the RTO, I met an amazing guy in a peted swift, he was doing 140 and I did not let him get away with it, you know your car is a GEM after 4000 rpm!" Then savour in the new owners reactions.

Then tell the shop manager, if you take action against me, just know all of us do the same thing and whoever is going to replace us are going to follow suit, so decide for yourself.
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Old 22nd December 2007, 03:32   #39
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Good morning!

i've heard the same about BAL engines, even maruti me thinks.

brand new engine, filled with engine oil, redlined, held for a minute, and then oil drained, particles removed via magnets, and so on.

Your engines are typically pre-runin.
Its true, I have seen pulsars being built and tested at BAL plant in pune, the bike, imm after being assembled is put on a roller bench and ripped with tacho past 10k RPM for about 2 mins, thereafter ripped and driven to the stocking yard. So essentially, no running required
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Nice update BUSA, thank my stars and GOD that I didnt have to go all this...we should be very careful from now on...
From Bimal to RTO is like about 7km on OMR which is always crowded in daytime, so i am sure he couldnot have ripped the car...When I took delivery car was just 15km in odo...

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Guys,

All these things happen, I made sure that my Safari will not be run by anybody other than me to the RTO for registration.

Dealer guys didnt even take the car for registration, they infact got it registered without the car.

I got my BEAST with ODO reading 4 kms.

If you insist things happen the way you want.
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When i took my car, i went to the dealership, drove it to the RTO and then parked it back at the dealership to make sure nobody else drives her in the run in period.
I planned for the same thing only to find that they arrange for the RTO inspector to come check the car out personally in their stockyard.

Had only 5kms clocked on the ODO when I drove her out of the dealers. This was thanks to some help from the GM.
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The nearest Mahindra stockyard from chennai is near hubli or nearby.
Every Scorpio is driven the 400 kms from the yard and we know how good the GQ is
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I met an amazing guy in a peted swift, he was doing 140 and I did not let him get away with it


But how would he know its Peted?
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Today i was comming back in my Peted Swift. I was travelling at around 80kmph at the Palm Beach Road and there was a red Swift LXi with temporary registration covered full of dust.

I immediately identified it that Automotive Manufacturers send their cars for registration to the RTO via this route. and it was one such car. He was pulling away crazily. I tap the accelerator of the Peted Swift and it leaped ahead, 100.... 120.... 140 i overtake him. That means he was driving at a speed of 130kmph Mind you the road was empty.

Then the left came to turn inside Nerul, and i slowed down and took the turn, in my RVM i see that car in speed entering. I was shocked he was no less then 65kmph at the left on stock tyres of customers car.

Suddenly he tried to race me, i was ahead of him, the road became a two lane on the bridge, i was at 80, shifted to 3rd and waited for him to come side by side. He came side by side at speed and i tapped the accelerator, and the Red Swift became a spec in the mirror.

Then i had to take a turn and the Red Swift went en route to the dealership.

I called the dealership up, and asked him about the wherabouts of the car and told the manager whom i knew about what the driver was doing to a customers car, he was shocked himself and told me thanks, he would look in the matter.

When i took my car, i went to the dealership, drove it to the RTO and then parked it back at the dealership to make sure nobody else drives her in the run in period.

To all those who think that they are running their car, i wanna ask, how sure are you. Most dealerships send the cars to the RTO by hiring a driver who must have surely hit no less then 5500RPM in my above narration.
lol nothing new to me.. in rainy season in delhi i.e in aug. it happened with me. A Guy Dressed in Maruti Suzuki's Uniform started from greater noida, expressway... Stock VXi.. No Number plate means the guy was taking a brand new swift to the dealer... lol he tried to race with me, with a Brand New Red Colour Swift. He got stuck at 165-170 kmph... lol Imagine how they ruin the brand new engine.. Brand New Car. Poor chap whosoever owns that Swift.
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