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Old 20th August 2010, 02:01   #76
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It is reported in todays malayalam news paper "DEEPIKA.COM" that a business man from Trivandrum is caught and arrested for over speeding and overtaking a minister on the way from Trivandrum to Nagercoil.
Usually the kerala minister's official cars fly off and normal drivers can not overtake them in Kerala roads.The pilot vehicle clears the traffic and make way for the minister's car.This is first time hearing such an incident.There may be some reason for the cops to chase him and arrest.
I have always had good experinces with the covoys , just need to be vigilant enough to identify on which youcan safely follow or overtake . Like a fellow TBHPian already pointed out the follwing or overtaking a convoy more than ten vehicles especially a convoy with Signal Jammers is asking for trouble.

Otherwise , have managed to use convoys to my advantage for example like going from Trivandrum to Ernakulam during daytime the traffic is a nightmare , but if luck favours you and you happen to chance upon a ministers convoy , viola you have a clear road in front of you as long as you keep you safe distance from the tail car.

But if some one from the convoy gestures you to drop off , its better not to push your luck any further.
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Someday someone will do this out of frustration.
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That was funny. More funny was that there was another small bucket inside the bigger bucket .

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Someday someone will do this out of frustration.
If someone tried pulling this stunt in our country, chances are they would end up getting shot, and the authorities would later term the whole incident as an "encounter".
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If one of them tries he'll be shot. We need 1000s to ambush our neta's cars like this. In chennai, there used to be a time where 1000s used to wait with buckets and ambush the water tanker. Guess we need to press them in to action now.
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Whoa!!! Did anyone go through this news guys? I'm frustrated reading this!!! Horrible

People who hold power and positions often misuse it and Labour Minister of Karnataka Bache Gowda who is caught with his foot in the mouth for having assaulted Sadashivanagar-based businessman Bharat a few days ago, is a classic example of how politicians try to show their muscle power with ordinary people. No one had expected a senior politician of the stature of Bache Gowda to resort to hooliganism on the simple pretext of an ordinary citizen overtaking his vehicle. Though Chief Minister Yeddyurappa has tendered apology on behalf of the Minister for this unfortunate incident, minister Bache Gowda has been has been at his arrogant best in coming out with statements which exemplify that power has gone to his head.
When press people had contacted Bache Gowda for his reaction he seems to have answered in the same arrogant attitude. “As an advocate I know what to do and what not to do. I will not apologize to someone who had the audacity to overtake my vehicle and who refuses to show minimum courtesy to a minister. Even if the Chief Minister asks me to apologize I will not oblige”, he thundered expressing no remorse for the unfortunate episode. Not done with that Bache Gowda seems to have said he can never be a silent spectator when someone tries to overtake his vehicle. “I will not oblige with apology to any one. I cannot withstand if people do not show respect due to a minister. This is the way I am”, he defended his unsavory act.

On the contrary, he wanted Bharat to apologize to him saying he showed disrespect to his age and position as minister by overtaking his vehicle repeatedly. Bharat was drunk and was driving recklessly. He should have been subjected to medical test and action should have been taken against him for his unruly behavior, he contended.
What actually transpired between the two parties is known only to them and to the people who witnessed the entire drama on the road. But taking to task an ordinary man just because he tried to overtake the minister’s vehicle is nothing but height of misuse of power and haughtiness. There is no rule either in the Motor Vehicles Act 1988 or any other act that prevents people from overtaking minister’s convoys except may be that of the President, the Prime Minister and the Chief Minister and when foreign heads of states and dignitaries, which is done mainly for security reasons. In such cases precautions are taken well in advance and enlightened citizens will not come in the way of such arrangements. But expecting people not to overtake a minister’s vehicle smacks of obduracy, arrogance, selfishness and is a way of creating self importance.

As an advocate Bache Gowda should have known that Bharath cannot be faltered for overtaking a minister’s vehicle. He also should know that respect should be commanded and not demanded. Bache Gowda claims that Bharat was drunk and was over speeding/driving recklessly. Whether he was drunk or he misbehaved is immaterial here. If a complaint was lodged to this effect, the RTO or police would have taken necessary action. But he cannot take law in his hands just because he is a minister. Imagine what would happen if everyone tries to take law in their hands whenever there is a dispute? There would nothing but jungle raaj everywhere. We cannot call ourselves a democracy or as civilized people if law of jungle prevails everywhere.

That the minister tried to wield his ministerial powers and pick up an altercation with an ordinary person, assault him and again register a complaint, shows how a minister and those at the helm of power misuse their position, money and muscle power. That the minister failed to show concern to Bharat’s aged father-in-law, wife and children who were travelling with him, only shows Bache Gowda in very poor light.

Needless to say Bache Gowda’s arrogance and rude behavior has shocked the people of the state who are unable to comprehend how a senior politicians like him could stoop to such low levels and assault a person on flimsy pretexts. Bharat might have answered arrogantly when his gunmen and driver confronted him for overtaking his vehicle. But being a minister does not give him the right to assault ordinary people. The general public has realized this and now there is a war cry for his resignation which is slowly but steadily gaining momentum. Many opposition leaders, writers, social workers and leading citizens of the state have expressed concern over the fracas between a minister and an ordinary citizen.

There is an oft-repeated phrase which says “power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely” and it is true very much in a country like India where politicians and Ministers flaunt their powers unabashedly. During elections all these political leaders seek votes saying they want to serve the people of the state. After their elections and subsequently on becoming Ministers they want the general public to be subservient to them and cannot tolerate people even overtaking their vehicles as this incident has demonstrated. This is what even Bache Gowda expected from Bharat and unfortunately for him the incident took an ugly turn and the matter came into the open. Just because he is a minister it does not mean he is entitled to special privileges even on public roads. Bache Gowda is guilty of misusing his position and mistreating an ordinary citizen.

It is believed that Bharat Gowda is a relative of former state BJP President D V Sadananda Gowda. This has given a new twist to the entire saga with many ifs and buts. But that cannot condone the sacrilege committed by Bache Gowda while holding a responsible position of minister. This incident should serve as an eye opener to other ministers, so that they don’t exhibit their highhandedness with the public in future.

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As an Advocate, he clearly knows HOW to do. When I was in a hospital getting my x-rays done, while waiting for the reports, I saw on local marathi channel news a clipping of congress party men smashing chairs over each other in Maharashtra. The incident was splashed all over the news for almost an hour.
Yeah, I had to wait for an hour to get my x-ray reports.
Disgusted looking at Netas in fisticuffs in national television, I approached the lady at reception and urged her to get my x-ray before those morons are brought in for x-rays and treatment here, which would further delay me. All people around burst out laughing.
Politicians are the laughing stock of India. Well, the minister should not apologies. He should be tried in a court, convicted and sentenced. Who wants apologies. We want justice.
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This incident only highlights the sorry state of affairs of the present govt in Karnataka and its attitude towards the AAM ADMI.
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I only had a minor issue once when I was trying to overtake the convoy escorting the Pakistan bus service (without realising what the convoy was about) near Karnal. All cars were following the convoy and I moved into the left lane to overtake. When I came near the bus some black-cat commandos with AKs (sitting in the back of a gypsy following the bus) asked me to move back.
Something similar happened to me when I was driving to McLeodganj this May. Initially I stayed behind the convoy for about 10 minutes but they're too darn slow for me. Took the left (and slightly elevated) lane and just zipped through. But I made one bad mistake. When I joined the right lane, I drove through a puddle of water and splashed the lead Gypsy. Needless to say, it was behind me with all sirens blazing. So I slowed down, rolled down the windows and presented the most sincerely apologetic, doggy like face to the cop. I guess that melted his heart and I was asked to continue.

The scary incident happened coupla years back in the hills of Uttarakhand. That time I didn't know the rule of VIP convoys and overtook a slowly moving amby, with a red beacon, simply by flashing my high beams. After that, I had the audacity to honk on the lead vehicle. Soon the air was filled with a high pitched voice yelling at me to give way and of course the siren. I gave way and joined the tail end of the 2 car convoy cursing them like anything for going so slow and keeping me behind. Well, God judges everyone and guess what, we all reached the same KMVN hotel and the lead amby went straight into a ditch. And I passed them with one of the biggest grins I've had in my life.

EDIT: I guess this is just the beginning. Now we can expect more dastardly actions from our elected, esteemed public servants. Sometimes, I laugh at this ridiculous term, PUBLIC SERVANT, which is what these netaas are.

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A few months back, my BIL and I were coming to Cochin from Thrissur when a police jeep (no sirens or flashing lights) overtook us, followed by a caravan and a Merc.

We thought it was some actor (seeing the caravan) and the police escort made us think it would be some Bollywood actor. Infact, this happened near Chalakkudy, so we thought it was Abhishek-Aishwarya going to join 'Raavan' shoot

So, we thought that was all and moved back into the rightmost lane when an Innova overtook us dangerously almost squeezing us against the divider. We thought it was someone trying to be smart and tag along with the convoy. We tried to overtake the Innova, but then almost 6-7 vehicles (Innovas/Scorpios) came past us. They then started driving in formation - with a vehicle in each of the 3 lanes driving at equal speed (~50kmph) so that nobody will be able to overtake them.

At some point all the vehicles had to move into a single file (work going on for road-widening). At the next change to 4-lane, we zipped past all the convoy vehicles and the caravan itself before they could move into formation. The policemen in the jeep gave us a stare, but then they moved into the left lane allowing us to go past.

After reading all the incidents here, I think we should be thanking our lucky stars that nothing bad happened. We were later told by a friend that it was probably a religious leader in the caravan (unconfirmed).
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I will be happy with the cute news reader on TV alone.

the "Security" of VIPs is an artificially created need because of all the power and money play these elected politicians do all this time. And you can clearly see majority of the common people (voters) support it too.
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Now, they will be paid 300% more for doing all the above and might be more. Great going.

Total CTC (cost to country) will be approx. Rs 60 lakh per annum per MP.

I wonder, now that they are almost at par with corporate honchos, will they be as accountable as them?

In a country, where a basic job requires at least a graduate, these peoples are managing lakhs of crores of economy without any fixed qualification or rather no qualification. Only qualification required is to terrorize the common man and make them bow down to their wishes.

Congrats India. Aal izz well.
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The behavior of the minister would have landed him in jail maybe even in Pakistan. We talk of what a great democracy ours is, what a great culture we have, what a great armed forces we have and what not. All this is psychological feel good tones played by the politicians to pacify the people so that no one rises against them. These days Karnataka is special. They introduce bills that decide what we eat !!!! Poor villagers now should tend to old and useless cows. The only source of meat protein that the poor could afford too has been curtailed. Long live the democracy.
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I just finished reading a calculation of CTC (cost towards country) for maintaining all MPs for 5 years (Lok sabha + rajya sabha) - its 860 Crore INR.
And we have our respective states' MLA (in some cases MLC) to take care of after that!

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