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Old 26th February 2011, 11:23   #316
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Maybe this is diverting from the topic a little bit, but what do the think tanks on the forum believe would be the most foolproof method to prevent theft. I understand the no method is foolproof but then which are the ones that stand out. At the end of the day we all have cars with a fair investment in them and would like to protect it. I hope that with the shared thoughts we can prevent some thefts and help the cause that GTA has started.


This is exactly the point i was trying to make.

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OT: never thought a doc would take to stealing cars!!

Doctor turns into carjacker for the moolah - The Times of India

Seriously, what has the world come to! I went through the article it says that the doc was from a good family.
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1. Hubby's new Yamaha ( 1 month old), gets stolen from beneath our window in August 1995. It was locked. This is West Delhi; Police Station is 250 m away. Claim settled after 1.5 yrs.been worse. The lady journalists murder was fresh in her mind. This was December 2009.
Wonder why no one sued Escorts-Yamaha for this blunder. The first gen Yamaha Rx100s were notoriously 'thief friendly'. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could steal this bike by using a 5 paise coin (the square one with smooth corners) to turn ON the ignition lock. Umpteen number of Rx-100s got stolen those days.
The first thing i did after i bought my Rx100 was change the locks to a local brand.

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How fool proof is the gear lock? It is a metal U which has 2 holes behind he gear. You put the car in the 4th gear and then lock it with this "U". I have it in my car, can post a picture if anyone wants to see it.
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I have it in my car, can post a picture if anyone wants to see it.
Please do; I use a steering lock (the mechanical one) all the time (except when I'm driving - ). I need to evaluate how much a gear lock would enhance the security.
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A friend of mine lost a Scorpio within 3 days of purchase and he made a beeline for the dealer.
When did this happen? Location? Which model of Scorpio?

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How fool proof is the gear lock? It is a metal U which has 2 holes behind he gear. You put the car in the 4th gear and then lock it with this "U". I have it in my car, can post a picture if anyone wants to see it.
I have gear-locks in all 3 cars : Zen, Corsa and City. Only City has a beautiful gear lock where there is just a short rod that needs to be inserted into a hole just below the gear-box : aesthetically very good. Corsa and Zen have the ones like you have mentioned. The dealer who fit said only a gas cutter can cut the lock.

Hope that is true.
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How fool proof is the gear lock? It is a metal U which has 2 holes behind he gear. You put the car in the 4th gear and then lock it with this "U". I have it in my car, can post a picture if anyone wants to see it.
I have the same thing in my Wagon R. Only thing is I have mine on the reverse gear. This was so that if the thief breaks into my car, unless and until he breaks the gear lock, he cannot drive the car in any direction except backwards which would be very difficult for him.
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When did this happen? Location? Which model of Scorpio?

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The year was 2006 and the location was Gulmohar park, New Delhi and this friend parked the car a few houses away as there was another car in front of his house. When the car in front of his house left, he went to move the car to the front of his house and park for the night and he found it missing, He called the cops immediately but no avail. Some chap standing near the area mentioned that somebody came and opened the car like normal and drove away as if he owned it so obviously he had a key which was a perfect fit.

We were at the station that summer night and I remember the cops saying that the Scorpio was a favorite with thieves and that it fetches a good price in UP and Bihar.
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The two kinds of gear locks I have seen are the pin type that go below the lever cover and lock the lever in one place. I have that in both my cars and saw through the installation myself. They put a strong metal plate against the car floorwell and then put breakable bolts. The bolt end breaks as they tighten it and you can never unscrew the bolt. The only choice is to cut through. The second type is the U type which forms a loop at a higher level on the lever than the pin type and is very visible. It is debatable as to which is stronger but both will need at least 10-15 minutes to work through. The advantage that I see is that you do not have to share the gear lock keys with any valets or car workshops when you leave the car with them. These are potential points where they can duplicate the keys and come back to steal your car later.

The easy way through the gear lock is to put an appropriate shaped metal wedge between the lock lever and the wall of the plate and push them back. I am sure the thieves have already figured this out.

Otherwise the key supplied with the gear lock seems pretty advanced and has multiple levers. One precaution that you need to take is to NEVER provide your address on the Autocop guarantee card as the dealer then has your address and the key number and these can always be passed onto an accomplice.

It is also advisable to get an auto cop siren type of remote locking installed as that means that you will not normally use the keys on your door lock and they door lock levers won't wear out. It is always easier to open locks with worn out levers like on the old maruti 800s which could literally be opened by a knife or a screwdriver. Helps prevent stereo thefts etc.

Back in the days when I had a 800, i got something called a mechinal anti theft kit installed where they placed a bent plate over the locks so that they could not be opened with a scale. I was quite impressed and the kit only cost a 100 rupees or so. They also changed the lock levers to smooth ones vs the contoured ones supplied by maruti.

Car locks are usually fitted with a u clip holding them to the door and not much else. In case of GTAs theft this thief found it easy to remove the lock and make a copy. Would make sense then to get to the locks by opening the door panel and super glue them in place with an extra O-ring in place so that they can never be removed as easily.
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@gtabombay- no updates from your end in a while! please post once in a while, even if there are no updates you can give us!

Take care!
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I was their customer a year back, and yes, they do check and verify the RC Book, drivers license and the insurance copy. They even keep a xerox of the same as a copy with them.
Did they check your original RC, Original Driving license and original insurance ?. Till the time they dont do it, I don't think its foolproof as anyone can get a copy of your RC etc. and if a Valet or a workshop guy has your car, your duplicate papers are already in the car and he has your key as well.

One foolproof way for them is to ask you to get the duplicate key along, as usually if you are a owner you should have access to it , and if both the keys are lost, they should redirect you to the manufacturer.

Also they can insist that the person whose name the car is registered in, come directly, with an original ID proof... I dont think anyone is that busy to not spare an hour..

The folks working in such places can be easily involved in such Heists..

Even if you have a tracking device in your car and its stolen, if you track your car, how many of you will have the guts to go and recover it.. I am sure the cops will ask some money to go with you..

You have to pray and just be careful, as the determined thief does have his way usually.. .
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@ gtabombay why no posts since last two weeks. Where are you?
Hope you would come out with the developments soon.
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@ gtabombay why no posts since last two weeks. Where are you?
Hope you would come out with the developments soon.

Hi all,

The last operation was a great disappointment . We were very close. The target is now more alert, but has not fled. This guy is not going to stop because the money is too good -- we got to know he deposits average 70-80k cash every day in his accounts.

Another Pajero belonging to an MLA stolen from Powai, watchman has identified Nasrat from photo. The thefts are on the rise.

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Another Pajero belonging to an MLA stolen from Powai, watchman has identified Nasrat from photo.

Great! Can we expect the police to make some positive movement now ?
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Another Pajero belonging to an MLA stolen from Powai, watchman has identified Nasrat from photo.
Man this guy is crazy about Pajero's or what??

Doesn't he see any money on Endeavours, fortuners etc.
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