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Old 10th May 2017, 20:04   #1516
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Minister Narayana's son died in a G-Class that crashed. Anybody have more info ?
The guy wasn't drunk. He seems to have lost control.Though the front airbags opened , the impact caused death.check the cctv footage.

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Old 10th May 2017, 20:35   #1517
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I guess nothing beats XC90 when its comes to the safety aspect.
I am sure an idiot driver can prove that statement wrong!

No matter how safe the car is, the weakest link still is the nut behind the wheel.
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There is no way any car can do 200 plus on that road. It has to be wrong.
Might be you are right, plus a G feels very scary to ride even at 120 kph on super smooth Indian roads.

However, in modern cars having electronic speedometers, residual speedometer readings are generally closer to the speed the car might be doing at the time of crash. Based on the same, I can only guess that the indicated speed could be achieved only if the drive shaft (or whatever is being used to measure the speed in the G) doing those speeds while the vehicle is airborne right before the crash.

Leave aside G-class, any NCAP toppers cannot beat those poles, trees and pillars where a very low surface area of the vehicle get to participate in transferring away that kind of energy.


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Guys, if you think the G Class couldn't have hit that pillar at 200 kmph because of that turn, just remember that this is AMG model - and it can hit 100 kmph from standstill in around 6 seconds.

On a lighter note, it looks like EuroNCAP guys were unable to crash test the Mercedes G Class - because they faced unexpected problems.
It is irresponsible ads like these which make their owners think they are invincible. Sure, all ads are exaggerated but I guess safety is a serious issue and they should leave safety aspect alone. This should not be joked about.

Coming to this accident, no car in the world can crash headlong into a concrete block at 200 kph (assuming it to be the case) and allow its occupants to walk away. Concrete is the worst object to crash into. It doesn't flex one bit and move and car speed comes straight to zero in a fraction of second spending all that kinetic energy on the occupants.

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... ... ... car speed comes straight to zero in a fraction of second spending all that kinetic energy on the occupants.
It spends most of it on deforming itself into a tangled mass. Crushing the occupants, in terms of the energy spent, is probably almost irrelevant.

We are very fragile!
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The car was being driven at a high speed. And road number 36 has got to be one of the worst roads to even consider going at a high speed.
Judging by the cctv footage, the car seems to have been doing well over 100kph. It is being said that the police found the speedo to be stuck at 205kph. Could this mean that the car was actually doing such speeds?
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I must also add that the G65 is not easy to control - It is fun on a straight line but falls to bits on the twisties. Please see my comments here (Fascination Mercedes Leh, Ladakh with a Merc GL350 and an AMG G55)
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Anyone noticed the bullbars on SUV, talk about Indian mentality!
Even if SUV had some crumple zone, this alone negated whatever Mercedes wanted to avoid.

As expected people here talking about vehicle crash worthiness! When a loose nut is behind the wheel, even Soviet tanker won't be safest to him. Since the occupant is "VIP", there are little chances that we come to know if he had drunk while behind the wheel.
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Might be you are right, plus a G feels very scary to ride even at 120 kph on super smooth Indian roads.

However, in modern cars having electronic speedometers, residual speedometer readings are generally closer to the speed the car might be doing at the time of crash. Based on the same, I can only guess that the indicated speed could be achieved only if the drive shaft (or whatever is being used to measure the speed in the G) doing those speeds while the vehicle is airborne right before the crash.

Leave aside G-class, any NCAP toppers cannot beat those poles, trees and pillars where a very low surface area of the vehicle get to participate in transferring away that kind of energy.


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Just noticed one of the videos and found that the rear axle of the G was airborne during/right after the crash, which might be support the above theory?? or just the g force made the speedo needle shift to the indicated speed (which is little unlikely). who knows.

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Anyone noticed the bullbars on SUV, talk about Indian mentality!
Even if SUV had some crumple zone, this alone negated whatever Mercedes wanted to avoid.

As expected people here talking about vehicle crash worthiness! When a loose nut is behind the wheel, even Soviet tanker won't be safest to him. Since the occupant is "VIP", there are little chances that we come to know if he had drunk while behind the wheel.
Those are OE bullbars and not fitted to the G just like those aftermarket ones.

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You're right my bad. Got the direction wrong. Nevertheless, I feel its still unimaginable to achieve a speed of 200kmh on that road.
It is possible. Visit KBR Park road early hours of Saturday or Sunday or Monday mornings and see the speeds these super rich kids achieve in short sprints.

Infact the road is incline from check post and then it declines towards Madhapur. So, if you floor the pedal at Check Post, you will would have reached 150 by the time you reach the famous Jag showroom and the bends are not 90 deg. They snake. With the metro pillar work going on and the barricades put in place, nothing deters them.

If the intention is to get killed, what can anyone on this planet do ???

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Is the road design confusing at that spot? Improperly marked pillar in middle of road? Maybe those who live in that area can shed light on road engineering aspect.

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Moving on is the road design confusing at that spot? Improperly marked pillar in middle of road? Maybe those who live in that area can shed light on road engineering aspect.
Not really middle of the road or anything. But a SUV has enough body roll without it being driven at dangerously high speeds by a possibly drunken youth - and that too late at night so visibility would be less. If you drive at a reasonable speed that road is fine, I've driven down it quite a few times though not at such insane speeds.

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The car was being driven at a high speed. And road number 36 has got to be one of the worst roads to even consider going at a high speed.
Just look at that video - he ran straight into the pillar. From the way that the rear end of the car jumps up, one can only guess the speed. 100% driver error & recklessness. Was alcohol a contributor too? Just glad he didn't crash into a poor two-wheeler rider who would've lost his life for no fault of his.

This article lists the overspeeding challans the car has had - 3 this year itself!

No car is death-proof guys, not even a 2 crore Mercedes with all the safety tech of the world. All of that is pointless if there's an idiot behind the wheel.

Please drive responsibly, whether you are driving an Alto or a Maserati.

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You're right my bad. Got the direction wrong. Nevertheless, I feel its still unimaginable to achieve a speed of 200kmh on that road.
It is possible. Visit KBR Park road early hours of Saturday or Sunday or Monday mornings and see the speeds these super rich kids achieve in short sprints.

Infact the road is incline from check post and then it declines towards Madhapur. So, if you floor the pedal at Check Post, you will would have reached 150 by the time you reach the famous Jag showroom and the bends are not 90 deg. They snake. With the metro pillar work going on and the barricades put in place, nothing deters them.

If the intention is to get killed, what can anyone on this planet do ???

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Moving on is the road design confusing at that spot? Improperly marked pillar in middle of road? Maybe those who live in that area can shed light on road engineering aspect.
Road or Weather is not to be blamed at all.

Let me remind you, this is a posh area in Hyderabad and not some junk road. Metro work has been going on for sometime and traffic moves at snail's place during work hours.

The pillars are huge and easily intimidate any driver with their sheer size and location on road. There are so many barricades and barriers which will make traffic snarl even at wee hours of night.

But fate seldom gives second chance.

And the latest development is that they are blaming the Meteorological Department for not warning about summer showers that we received on that night.

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To those speculating, claiming they "got what they deserved", or they were "possibly drunk", let me say that these two were my classmates from school and Nishith was someone who did not like to drink at all. It is sad to see lives lost so easily, I suspect the car aquaplaned and there was nothing they could do to shed speed or change their directional course.
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