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Old 10th May 2010, 20:09   #8326
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That Porsche is not the AWD. Its the standard (if i may use such a term for a porsche) C2. C2 or C2S can be determined by the colour of the brake calipers. Base has yellow and the 'S' has red ones.
I'm sorry but your information is incorrect. Firstly, one cannot determine whether it's a 'C4' or a 'C2' that easily. Secondly, yellow brake calipers suggests that the car is equipped with PCCB (Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes) and red calipers suggest regular steel rotors.
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Old 10th May 2010, 20:19   #8327
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Spotted this on NR Road
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Old 10th May 2010, 20:19   #8328
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Ah, i would know better than to argue with you about a poker i agree about the PCCB, but the rear track is not flared in this car. I saw it in the UB city parking lot. Have seen a 4 in a showroom and that thing is W-I-D-E (think J LO)

Moreover i highly doubt anyone would change those sexy quad pipes for this insipid ovals. A friend of mine infact (silver c2s with the GT3 aerokit) changed it to the quad pipes.

The only way to verify for sure is to take a magnifying glass and check the tyre specs

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Old 10th May 2010, 20:44   #8329
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But it's still very hard to tell if it's a genuine 4S or just a 4S badged base Carrera Cabriolet. But something tells me that it's just a 2WD Cabriolet.
From these angles I think it'd be safe to guess that's its indeed a 4S.On first sight the car seems to have wider rear haunches and fatter rear tires than the standard Carrera.I could be wrong though.What do you think?
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Hey guys.Here is pic of the H2 in Mangalore owned by my cousin's relative.One of the pics he gave me.

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Hey guys.Here is pic of the H2 in Mangalore owned by my cousin's relative.One of the pics he gave me.

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Are you sure its the H2 and not the H3? Somehow looks like a H3 to me,I may be wrong though. And is the car in Mangalore on carnet? I see UAE plates.
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Old 10th May 2010, 21:37   #8332
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It is indeed a H2, which is down on Carnet. Has been here for a while actually. It also made an appearence on the Mangalore car show, a few months ago.
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I'm pretty sure that's a H2.
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I'm pretty sure that's a H2.
Thanks aparth.How could you make out from the front angle? I find it tough to differentiate.I looked relatively smaller so thought its the H3.
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jagxf and manish - a suggestion, do the Chennai Bangalore run sometime between June - Oct and you will have wonderful photo opportunities almost everywhere on the stretch...
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Old 10th May 2010, 23:54   #8336
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Bangalore is such a great place that everytime I go out for a not-so-short drive, I get to spot at least one or two imports. About supercars, I've spotted only a couple of SUVs, no coupes and such.
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Nice LR looks like a strip down ex embassy car
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Old 11th May 2010, 12:27   #8338
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Ah, i would know better than to argue with you about a poker i agree about the PCCB, but the rear track is not flared in this car. I saw it in the UB city parking lot. Have seen a 4 in a showroom and that thing is W-I-D-E (think J LO)

Moreover i highly doubt anyone would change those sexy quad pipes for this insipid ovals. A friend of mine infact (silver c2s with the GT3 aerokit) changed it to the quad pipes.

The only way to verify for sure is to take a magnifying glass and check the tyre specs
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From these angles I think it'd be safe to guess that's its indeed a 4S.On first sight the car seems to have wider rear haunches and fatter rear tires than the standard Carrera.I could be wrong though.What do you think?
Exactly! The only way to determine whether it's a C4 or C2 is check the width of the rear tyre! Now the rear tyre width of the C2 is 265 sections (265/40ZR18) where as the C2S sits on massive 295/30ZR19 at the back.

The tyre size of the C4 is 295/35ZR18 at the rear where as C4S wears even bigger 305/30ZR19 at the back.

Now there is another road-bock in this query. This particular alleged Carrera Cabriolet C4S wears SportDesign 19" wheels wrapped around by 305/30ZR19 which might actually be an up-size! It could even be 295/30ZR19. If it is the former, I'd say that it's a genuine 4S. But if it's the latter, it wouldn't be a 4S or even a C2S for that matter.

Regarding the width, these pictures might help us come to a conclusion:

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Now the first picture is of a Carrera S (Which doesn't come with wider rear body work)

The second picture is of a genuine Targa 4

The third picture is of the controversial Carrera Cabriolet 4S.

Ash_Vtec and Ayan, help me out here!

Now, if the rear tyre size of the Cabriolet 'C4S' is 305/30ZR19, it would be a genuine C4S. It looks just about as wide as the Targa 4 in the previous picture. And if it is a genuine C4S, that would mean that the owner has indeed opted for dual-pipes instead of the standard quad-pipes.

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Exactly! The only way to determine whether it's a C4 or C2 is check the width of the rear tyre! Now the rear tyre width of the C2 is 265 sections (265/40ZR18) where as the C2S sits on massive 295/30ZR19 at the back.

The tyre size of the C4 is 295/35ZR18 at the rear where as C4S wears even bigger 305/30ZR19 at the back.

Now there is another road-bock in this query. This particular alleged Carrera Cabriolet C4S wears SportDesign 19" wheels wrapped around by 305/30ZR19 which might actually be an up-size! It could even be 295/30ZR19. If it is the former, I'd say that it's a genuine 4S. But if it's the latter, it wouldn't be a 4S or even a C2S for that matter.

Regarding the width, these pictures might help us come to a conclusion:



Now the first picture is of a Carrera S (Which doesn't come with wider rear body work)

The second picture is of a genuine Targa 4

The third picture is of the controversial Carrera Cabriolet 4S.

Ash_Vtec and Ayan, help me out here!

Now, if the rear tyre size of the Cabriolet 'C4S' is 305/30ZR19, it would be a genuine C4S. It looks just about as wide as the Targa 4 in the previous picture. And if it is a genuine C4S, that would mean that the owner has indeed opted for dual-pipes instead of the standard quad-pipes.
Yep the second pic (targa) is a genuine 4WD...looks like J LO from the rear, but another thing to note is, that the genuine 4 also has the oval exhaust(older model??), when the norm for the 4's are to have quad pipes, while the 2 has the quad pipes. So can the pipes really be held as a distinguishing mark ?? Because it clearly shows that any porsche can have any exhaust finisher. btw this is the KA XX XX 2008 car, have seen it around.


The carrera 4s in question may have upgraded tyres, the rear is no way as wide as the targa. The 4WD porsches have a 44 mm wider haunch, and thats a palpable difference. Just my 2 cents...

Phone number of the owner anyone
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Old 11th May 2010, 13:05   #8340
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Yep the second pic (targa) is a genuine 4WD...looks like J LO from the rear, but another thing to note is, that the genuine 4 also has the oval exhaust(older model??), when the norm for the 4's are to have quad pipes, while the 2 has the quad pipes. So can the pipes really be held as a distinguishing mark ?? Because it clearly shows that any porsche can have any exhaust finisher. btw this is the KA XX XX 2008 car, have seen it around.


The carrera 4s in question may have upgraded tyres, the rear is no way as wide as the targa. The 4WD porsches have a 44 mm wider haunch, and thats a palpable difference. Just my 2 cents...

Phone number of the owner anyone
The Targa 4 is the base variant. All base variants come with dual-exhausts. The 'S' variants, whether on the Carrera/Cabriolet/Targa come standard with quad-pipes but the customer can choose to revert back to dual-pipes a la, the base variant.

But it would be naive trying to distinguish the base and the 'S' by looking at the exhausts. The tyres are the only way, but even that has been up-sized. Oh, and the owner would be more confused than us. I'm sure
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