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Old 25th February 2012, 11:17   #376
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An increase of 50K is not justified IMO. Rs 15 to 20K is reasonable considering a 2012 model costs 300$ extra in international market. 2012 model looks gorgeous in green.
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An increase of 50K is not justified IMO.
Agreed, the increase does sound steep! But look at it this way we get a thoroughly updated product!

AND the international model now has ABS as standard,

with bikes like CBR250R offering ABS chances are pretty high that the 2012 model is equipped with the same.

Lets not speculate on that because I believe that bajaj knows the market very well and will not price itself outside the competition.

Especially after they are struggling to sell the current gen...
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Agreed, the increase does sound steep! But look at it this way we get a thoroughly updated product!

AND the international model now has ABS as standard,

Especially after they are struggling to sell the current gen...
50K is acceptable if 2012 variant has ABS. I agree that 2012 model has lots and lots of changes. But 1000$ is high when compared to international buyers who are charged 300$ extra for 2012 model.

Is bajaj really struggling to sell current 650? I mean for 2011 model. I doubt because bookings were closed long time back.
But recently i was surprised to see some dealers selling 650R as part of stock clearance. I am surprised - if they had stock then why did they stop accepting bookings?
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if they had stock then why did they stop accepting bookings?
Was it/Probably could be to create artificial demand for their products?
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Was it/Probably could be to create artificial demand for their products?
The dealerships blindly (?) follow instructions from higher-up's in the company. They would have no clue on this either.
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50K bump in price is for:

1. Stiffer chassis - GOOD!
2. Stiffer Swingarm - GOOD! VERY GOOD!
3. Better seats - GOOD!

IMO worth the price bump. Anyway all this is speculation. Just the revised swingarm is worth the money. Adding a Versys swingarm and shock will cost close to a lakh.

Regarding extra bikes available - this might also be a rumour. But I wouldn't be surprised about strange sales strategies Not the first time we're seeing it!
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Just the revised swingarm is worth the money. Adding a Versys swingarm and shock will cost close to a lakh.
Guru, heard you have quite a few mods and goodies on your 650. Please share details
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List of modifications so far:

1. HP Corse hydroformed exhaust (slipon)
2. Powercommander 5 with Autotune
3. R&G frame sliders, bar-end sliders and swingarm sliders
4. Aluminum radiator guard
5. Galfer braided SS brake line for the front brakes
6. EBC HH Pro brake pads for the front calipers
7. 3M transparent protective film on tank and front fender
8. Morimoto bi-xenon HIDs (w.i.p)
9. Bluridge Performance high-performance clutch springs

What is pending:
1. Pirelli MT60 RS Corsa tires
2. Fender extender for the front
3. Sump guard
4. Adjustable front forks from Versys
5. Adjustable rear shock from Versys
6. Rear swingarm from Versys

These will happen as and when I win various lotteries!
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But, Why April?
New financial year. Keeps maths simple, all stuff accounted for in in 2012- they brought the new bikes in earlier, did the homologation circus and now will be free to do all the math this year.

The factory could agree or disagree to the moon, but this is it.

How are people saying they booked 2-3 months ago and got delivery now and then- I have been visiting the Vashi showroom, any more visits and will have to invite them for my family functions---asking for the 600-650 for months...

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Old 12th March 2012, 18:45   #385
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I read on some auto forums that Non ABS Ninja 650 is coming to india. Price close to Rs 4.7 lacs (300$ extra) will put Ninja 650 in VFM bracket.

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Am not too sure about the bump in the price to be at 50k. The pro-biking dealership I visited last week said this:

- Its a new model for sure
- There are some "graphics changes" in the bike (I almost broke out into a giggle then).
- There is a bump of around 15k in the prices.
- Bajaj Pune is not giving complete information.
- "We will call you"... (Yeah Right!)

Moral of Story: Not sure how much you can trust the pro-biking sales guys. They either bluff around or have almost no concrete information on the bike. Blame it also on Bajaj since they barely give out any information to the outlets and the sales guys have to face the customer day-in and day-out. The best they can do is give any random information they have heard. Can't blame them too.

So let Bajaj roll out the red, green, black 650 carpet for us, hopefully soon!

Ps: I have my finances ready and riding gear in place already, am just sitting around on any info on the bookings to re-open.

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Is april confirmed by bajaj sources? There isn't any concrete info around, sigh! me too have the finances ready.

Anyone test ride the hyosung GT650N/R? I did, but didn't find the build quality as good as the ninja (this opinion is ofcourse with my limited knowledge and observation). Considering the delay and the speculations, I wonder if it was wise decision skipping the GT650N, lost one full riding season.
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Hey Surajit333: The confirmation is for April or May. Also, I had a comet 250 back then and it suffered major quality issues in its electronics and mostly rubber parts. My ECU had a sort of 'lag' at 1500rpm the engine would just not respond and then spring back to life (close to what you feel as a turbo lag in a car) and it was really annoying as it came very low down the range. The fuel meter shorted out and almost burnt the entire wiring.

When I went to test the GT650, I could see the component quality had improved but not up-to the jap standards. My preference is the Kwacker here.

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Hey Lionell,

Thanks for your reply. The comet experience is scary, such bikes are aspirational and bad experiences can be nightmarish, I shudder at the thought. The japs are definitely miles ahead the of the GTs. Anyone disagreeing can put forward a convincing reason, would love it.

Triumphs I can live with, but they are a good one year from deliveries (whatever the CEO says), love them. I am sure most of us can empathize, 'WE NEED'EM NOW, LIKE RIGHT RIGHT NOW'.

At this point I am done with the waiting, thinking of the FZ1 (Again the availability issues).

Let me know of your plans.
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Went and met the friendly neighbourhood Probiking (now KTM) manager this week. It is indeed a stock clearance by Bajaj but no bargains or price discounts are being entertained.

The new bits of info he passed across were:

1. The bookings for the 2012 model will open around April 2012.
2. The bike will now be available in both green and RED colours
3. The price is now up by approx 50k OTR.
4. He promised to deliver the bike within 10 days of booking. Good bye 90 day waiting periods.

As of now I have nothing to do except wait for him to call me for the booking.
Sigh !
so is the stock clearance confirmed? did the dealer call you back? have been anxiously following the launch of 2012 model, but had placed querries with multiple KTM(probiking then) dealers to contact me even if they have a stock clearance of any sort. Once they did call me , but for asking whether I'm interested in the duke
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