Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > Motorbikes > Superbikes & Imports


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 7th May 2012, 09:33   #16
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Salzburg
Posts: 14
Thanked: 12 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing first sportsbike

a 1993 bike might seem old, but given how the Indian import bike scene works, I would chose a bike based on the condition of the bike and its paperwork rather than the age of the bike. it doesn't require an expert to analyse the condition of any bike for that matter.

the CBR600f is a fantastic bike any is an awesome bike to begin with, regarding Vtwins vs Inline 4, it is a love it or hate it with a twin, most love it only after riding one, many hate a V without ever riding one. the difference between the two is not just sound alone the power delivery and feel of a twin is completely different to an inline4 and v twin with after market exhausts sounds good too, but an inline 4 sounds nice too. It all comes down to personal preference ride the bike and then decide. I have owned an inline four and my last two bikes have been liter V twins and they are awesome. V-four is a good mix of both.

For the record, there is no VFR1000, only a VTR1000, there is the VFR800 which is another great bike.

and please avoid the 400cc bikes, parts are a pain to get, get any bike which was sold in the USA this will ensure that you will get any parts you require, also keep aside 25-30k atleast for any unforseen expenses which may crop up with an old bike.
chezhian350 is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 7th May 2012, 14:02   #17
GTO
Team-BHP Support
 
GTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 47,713
Thanked: 89,078 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

One of the most fun bikes I've ever ridden. If I ever see such a bike in good condition, wouldn't even think twice of picking it up. Newbie-friendly, very manageable in the city and Rtech's bike had a superb sounding exhaust. You'd get it dirt cheap too. Here's what he had to say about it:

Quote:
Kawasaki ZZR400E.
The bike is a Japan only model, and still in production today. The 400 shares 98% of its parts with its larger hearted brother, the zzr600 which was sold unchanged worldwide till 2002 or so. The chassis components, bodywork, wheels, tyres – everything, is common to the 600. What this means is that unlike other 400cc bikes, where parts are only available in a few countries in the far east, for the Z, you can (and I have) bought all my parts from the US and Europe, and off ebay. And there are a lot of them out there for real cheap.

The bottom end of the engine is shared with the 600 as well, so are the clutch plates and filters etc.

The bike runs perfectly, as it should considering it is my daily transport. She never overheats even in the worst of traffic jams in a Mumbai summer. The riding position is perfect without placing weight on your wrists. You can ride this all day and not feel tired. As it shares its chassis with the 600, the large size makes it really stable on our terrible roads. Hell, lets not kid ourselves, it also looks like a proper bike because of that, and not like a toy bike like a CBR400rr.

The bike is as reliable as you can get, and I don’t think twice about jumping on it at a moments notice for a long ride anywhere. A classic Japanese vehicle in that sense. At the risk of sounding arrogant, I can safely say that it is the best 400 I have come across in all my years of bike hunting.
Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike-teambhp-46.jpg

Last edited by GTO : 7th May 2012 at 14:04.
GTO is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 7th May 2012, 17:58   #18
BHPian
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Mumbai/Jamshedp
Posts: 319
Thanked: 145 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

Quote:
Originally Posted by pvinod_p View Post
Hey Folks,

Am new to Team-bhp, just joined a week back as member, although have used the community for reading reviews and inputs for a while now.

I'm looking at purchasing a used 400-600cc bike in Mumbai. Budget being 2-3 lacs (3.5 being a stretch). I used to own a yamaha rx100 and yamaha ybx 6 years back, but sold both and have been riding a tvs star for the past 2 years. I was considering a ninja 250/650 but really have an urge to get my hands on an in-line 4 machine. But not sure on how to evaluate the trade off of getting a newer, Indian invoiced 2-cyl bike, vs. an older, imported (with risk of paper issues) in-line 4. Would be great to get your thoughts on which model would suit well, and contacts of dealers in Mumbai/sellers. I personally would love to get my hands on a yamaha r6 (or honda cbr600rr or suzuki-gsxr-600) - but would be great to get some more experienced advice on what are reasonable prices to pay, and any deals the folks on the forum are personally aware of.

PS: I had gone to bachoo motors, central garage, maharashtra motors and guddu motors near mumbai central and the options they had for sale currently are

1. Honda CBR600 99 model with yoshi exhaust and 25000kms for 4.6 lacs.
2. Yamaha R6 2003 model with 20000kms for 6 lacs
3. Yamaha R6 2003 models with 25000kms for 5.5 lacs
4. Honda CBR600 97 model (not sure of extra fittings) for 3.2 lacs
5. Honda CBR400 NC29, 98 model 31000kms for 3 lacs

Also saw a couple of posts on the team-bhp classifieds.

Thanks,
Vinod
Welcome to tbhp Carmey

As I suggested earlier, go for an Indian Invoiced bike unless you have the time and energy to
1 Find a clean bike at the right price
2 Find reliable mechanics and spares

With a locally sold bike, you have the peace of mind of paperwork. You can also check service history with the A$$ and insurance claims.

Risks of a getting a crashed bike is very high given the nature of big bikes.

Dealers: There is no way you should rely on them. Do all due diligence yourself.

Put in effort, I believe it is possible to get a good deal on sparingly used big bikes ( quite a few buy them because they have the money and eventually realise they don't want it and merely eating into their parking space)

My suggestion: Get a used N650 or wait for the Daytona and kindly ensure I get a "long" test drive once you get anything.

Regards,
Chulli
vikramvicky1984 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 7th May 2012, 19:32   #19
Team-BHP Support
 
manson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 3,547
Thanked: 2,032 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

Hi Vinod, good to see you're looking for an inline four. I've been in your shoes in the past, and considering how niche this sbk community is, there is a good chance one of us from the local sbk scene may just know the bikes you're looking at. Post pictures of the bikes that you're looking at, and somebody here should definitely know a thing or two.
The key to bringing home a well kept clean papers bike is being patient. I took exactly two full years to find my first biggie and I couldn't have worn a broader smile in the two years I had it for

FYI, from what I know, there isn't a single 98-99 CBR 400 RR in the city, the newest examples you would find here are say 1995 at tops. Look at rubber hoses, inside wheel arches, etc to check part codes which would indicate the exact year of the motorcycle.

Also, fellow member Straight6 had listed his Suzuki GSXR 600 up for sale in the classifieds section on here which from personal experience I'd recommend you should pay a visit to.
manson is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 8th May 2012, 14:50   #20
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: mumbai
Posts: 7
Thanked: 0 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by manson View Post
Hi Vinod, good to see you're looking for an inline four. Also, fellow member Straight6 had listed his Suzuki GSXR 600 up for sale in the classifieds section on here which from personal experience I'd recommend you should pay a visit to.
Thanks a lot manson, I will post the pics of these. There is a cbr400, that the seller says is a 98 model registered in 2001. But he said it is an MP registered bike, that immediately set alarm bells in my mind given the DRI issues with imported bikes that have not come through legal channels. But I'm still going to check it out nonetheless, the quote is 2.95lacs, but the seller says negotiable. His name is Farhan, lives in Mira Road. Will update on the visit.

Taking your advice, this is a short video of a CBR900rr 1997 model that is for sale (in team-bhp) classifieds - i'm planning to go see the machine this saturday. But any tips of how it looks would be great!



Note from the Team-BHP Support Team: Please use the "edit" button if posting within 30 minutes of the first post, instead of creating another back-to-back post.

Also use "Multi Quote" option for quoting Multiple posts.

Please go through the rules in the announcements section.

Last edited by n_aditya : 8th May 2012 at 15:18. Reason: posts merged
pvinod_p is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th May 2012, 16:05   #21
Senior - BHPian
 
straight6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bombay
Posts: 2,342
Thanked: 112 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

Vinod, the video you have posted is of a '95 CBR 900 which has belonged to 2 friends of mine. The current owner has crashed it and is still in that state so I don't know how you're going to see it.

I have seen the 400rr as I live in Mira road too. I think its got a Yoshi tri oval exhaust. If you're coming this side you can check my bike out if you'd like.
straight6 is offline   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 29th July 2012, 21:34   #22
BHPian
 
yogisays0909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Navi Mumbai
Posts: 496
Thanked: 160 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

I think we both are in the same bucket my friend. I have been looking for an used SBK since a month or so and haven't seen a single impressive bike or deal. Few pics of the bikes which i saw.
Asking prices were too high and they didn't like my offer.
Attached Thumbnails
Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike-dsc_0012.jpg  

Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike-fzr400-bike-sale-1.jpg  

Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike-img_1043.jpg  

Attached Images
 
yogisays0909 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th July 2012, 00:56   #23
Senior - BHPian
 
straight6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bombay
Posts: 2,342
Thanked: 112 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

As a rule of thumb, always look for a bike which was launched in the US for many years. Its easier to get parts shipped here if required. The UK isn't too good for that plus its a little more expensive. The FZR 250 and 400 are Japan only just like the CBR and CB 400 so its extremely difficult to get parts.

If you can get the FZR 600 or the F3, go for it. Both were launched in the US market. The GPZ too but its quite old so even the US may not have too many parts now. It was Tom Cruises's ride in Top Gun .
straight6 is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 30th July 2012, 02:54   #24
BHPian
 
Haroon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jedda/Bangalore
Posts: 426
Thanked: 646 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

Quote:
Originally Posted by straight6 View Post
As a rule of thumb, always look for a bike which was launched in the US for many years. Its easier to get parts shipped here if required. The UK isn't too good for that plus its a little more expensive. The FZR 250 and 400 are Japan only just like the CBR and CB 400 so its extremely difficult to get parts.

If you can get the FZR 600 or the F3, go for it. Both were launched in the US market. The GPZ too but its quite old so even the US may not have too many parts now. It was Tom Cruises's ride in Top Gun .

Very well said. The US is a better parts/accessory supply source (including salvage parts). Besides, they are cheaper than UK and customer service is lot better. Also many times they have better deals with fedex & USPS etc for shipping.
Haroon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 30th July 2012, 15:47   #25
Team-BHP Support
 
manson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bombay
Posts: 3,547
Thanked: 2,032 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

The black F3 in Yogi's post looked a little 'beat up' when I spotted it a few weeks back. It was on KA plates then and had a lovely 'typically 90's sportbike' exhaust note!
manson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th July 2012, 22:57   #26
BHPian
 
yogisays0909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Navi Mumbai
Posts: 496
Thanked: 160 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by manson
The black F3 in Yogi's post looked a little 'beat up' when I spotted it a few weeks back. It was on KA plates then and had a lovely 'typically 90's sportbike' exhaust note!
Hey bro. Beat up means hit accident or sumthing? This guys was ready to leave it for 2.5 and i was stuck at 2.15. Let it go as i had to get back to work here in iraq. Will be back to mumbai again next month last week and start my search again.
yogisays0909 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th July 2012, 23:15   #27
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Vizag
Posts: 1,982
Thanked: 1,338 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

Quote:
Originally Posted by straight6 View Post
As a rule of thumb, always look for a bike which was launched in the US for many years. Its easier to get parts shipped here if required. The UK isn't too good for that plus its a little more expensive. The FZR 250 and 400 are Japan only just like the CBR and CB 400 so its extremely difficult to get parts.

If you can get the FZR 600 or the F3, go for it. Both were launched in the US market. The GPZ too but its quite old so even the US may not have too many parts now. It was Tom Cruises's ride in Top Gun .
Straight6, what is your opnion about kawasaki ZX12R? year 2000 unrestricted model. Was it in use in US for long time?
pgsagar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2012, 01:41   #28
BHPian
 
Haroon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jedda/Bangalore
Posts: 426
Thanked: 646 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

Quote:
Originally Posted by pgsagar View Post
Straight6, what is your opnion about kawasaki ZX12R? year 2000 unrestricted model. Was it in use in US for long time?
This bike was sold in the US and bike mags did direct comparos between this & the first gen Busa. I dont know how long or how widely it was sold, but this is an absolutely wonderful bike and I am sure parts should not be a problem. Brutally powerful and very well handling. If you are getting a clean bike within your budget, its worth a go. BTW, most owners who have cared well for this bike may rarely let go of it.

Last edited by Haroon : 31st July 2012 at 01:44.
Haroon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2012, 06:52   #29
Senior - BHPian
 
straight6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bombay
Posts: 2,342
Thanked: 112 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

Quote:
Originally Posted by pgsagar View Post
Straight6, what is your opnion about kawasaki ZX12R? year 2000 unrestricted model. Was it in use in US for long time?
Yes, the 12R was sold in the US till the end. I've ridden one and its quite wild with its brutal and abrupt power delivery (typical of Kawasaki). I'd pick a Blackbird over it any day.

Kawasaki released a de-tuned version when they finally launched in 2000 because of lots of pressure from EU countries thinking of banning it. Even though it may be unrestricted, its not what they had initially tested and planned before the launch.
straight6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th August 2012, 18:36   #30
BHPian
 
yogisays0909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Navi Mumbai
Posts: 496
Thanked: 160 Times
Default Re: Advice on purchasing my 1st Sportsbike

Quote:
Originally Posted by pvinod_p View Post
Thanks a lot manson, I will post the pics of these. There is a cbr400, that the seller says is a 98 model registered in 2001. But he said it is an MP registered bike, that immediately set alarm bells in my mind given the DRI issues with imported bikes that have not come through legal channels. But I'm still going to check it out nonetheless, the quote is 2.95lacs, but the seller says negotiable. His name is Farhan, lives in Mira Road. Will update on the visit.
The CBR 400 MP registered you talking about seems to be a jhol scene to me! This guy has some attitude or some kinda psycho issue. This bike has been rolling from mouth to mouth since couple of months. Its full white in color, i have the pics with me!
Also, this fellow had a PB reg F4 or something. His way of talking is like he is selling a Hell Cat!
yogisays0909 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R - My First Sportsbike. 52,000 kms on the clock. UPDATE: Sold! n_aditya Motorbikes 598 10th November 2017 23:42
Advice needed in purchasing a year old Swift LDi octane1002 Hatchbacks 15 4th September 2009 08:50
Urgent Advice needed on purchasing used Octavia vRS octane1002 Sedans 32 16th April 2009 18:46
APZoom says Check this Out :) - New 250 cc Sportsbike in India Comet GT 250 APZoom Motorbikes 12 21st November 2008 14:59


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 03:08.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks