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Old 18th June 2015, 23:03   #76
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Yes sir. You are right. One can use just the slip ons. But had learnt that air intake is constricted compared to freer exhaust causing increase in heat. And bike running lean.
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That is more of a issue with full exhaust upgrade without upgrading air intake. For just the slip-ons even Harley Technicians don't insist on the need to upgrade the intake and fuel management system. The stock map has sufficient flexibility to adjust to the added free flow of just the slip-ons. As I mentioned, I have used just the slip-ons for 10000 kms on my Sportster with ZERO issues of heat and bike running lean. If anything my bike ran smoother than many others in my group at the time of its sale.
Ahh!! A HOG fight

Can I jump into the mudpit for a rumble with you guys?

"I" feel that if you remove the stock muffler, which has a plug, and replace with a free flow slip-on, you remove the backpressure wave which is supposed to help in scavenging/balancing the air volume in the cylinder.

So, you might be getting less air volume in the cylinder, and hence might be running RICH, if still with stock air filter.

The effect of this might be more dominant in lower rpms, and less so at WOT.

But the Sad part (Best part?) of all this is that the Harley engine design is so basic that even with any major change, the performance will only result in relatively marginal changes. But you do feel it and hear it.

It's only a question of time before some smart businessman capitalizes on this and sets up dyno-shops so that these HOG brawls can be refereed.

But who doesn't love a good spin in the mud, right?

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What's the weight difference between the stock and the cobra slip-ons?
I felt it was about 50% lighter than the stock exhausts.
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Ahh!! A HOG fight
Lolz. Did not intend anything like that. Was just updating my thread matter of factly with the upgrades I do. You are right about the back pressure part. But "I" feel that the stock exhausts are too constricted to confirm with the legal exhaust and noise level requirements. That kind of construction is really not required from the engineering point of view. That is why such a big ancillary industry is already running catering just to the exhaust systems. To tell the bare bones truth, a Harley ain't a Harley if it doesn't sound like one. And that is why 99% of its owners upgrade it's exhausts at the very first chance they get. That you get performance boost along the way is just a added bonus. And if they enhance the looks too, like in my case, sone pe suhaaga . That is the 'naked' truth, whether we accept it or not.

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World HOG Ride - Shimla (27 & 28-06-2015)

It was a nice hot Saturday. Perfect for the 808kms of high octane ride ahead. We were initially greeted by some very bad roads coming out of Meerut which graduated into these sublime highways. 3 of us from Meerut joined in with the Capital Chapter Delhi group...
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After the initial chaos we were greeted with some pristine nature
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On the road
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Our hotel had a great view of the sunset
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#OnTheRoad
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The bike performed perfectly. I had removed the windshield which helped me attain higher speeds.
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A hard 808kms ride in sweltering heat culminates
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And the bike crosses the 5k mark
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Installation of Auxiliary Brake Light/ Running Light/ Turn Signal Conversion Kit (Part# 69461-06D) - 17-07-2015

Wanted to increase the Rear Visibility of this wide a bike. The LED Kits doing the same were all in 30K range, whether Harley's OE Parts or 3rd party one's like Kuryakyn or Custom Dynamics. So opted for this option which retains the OE Bulb setup but changes the rear lenses to RED colour and adds a plug-in wiring harness control module in the stock rear fender wiring under the seat. Cost just 5.5K which is 6 times less than the LED Kit and provides the same functionality.

The Kit
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Contents
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Part# and Price
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Here it is attached with Red Lenses. Ignition OFF.
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Ignition ON. Running Lights ON. Red Lenses Glow.
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Ignition ON. Brake Lights ON. Interesting bit is that the Turn Sginals contain single filament bulbs which are somehow controlled by the module to provide varying brightness. Good engineering. Red Lenses increase in intensity when brakes or turn signals are activated.
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Brightness is stock but rear brightness has increased due to the addition of 2 more lights which are now always on to attract the attention of following traffic as the turn signal module adds brake light and running light function to rear turn signals. Additional max load is about 4.5A as per the manual attached. Good investment I would say.

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Dhiraj sir - Why did you not think of opting for LED rears? something on the lines of the attached pic. Really enhances the rear lighting.

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Why did you not think of opting for LED rears? something on the lines of the attached pic. Really enhances the rear lighting.
Like I said, the LED light kit for the Heritage is different from the Fat Boy and is around 30k in cost (part# 68128-10 & 68411-10). Also the OE Harley LED light kit has thrown up lots of errors and bad feedback from many friends in my Heritage group who have installed it and who had to get it replaced 2-3 times. Now with this kit I have the option of adding 3rd party LED Bulbs and/or LED panel at any time at a fraction of a cost with full functionality.
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Are Dheeraj San , nayi bike! Congrats and this one seems befitting and tailor made for you.
And good work with photographs!
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Got a custom Gear Shift Linkage Rod built and installed today. All SS construction and chromed -

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Installation on the way
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Finally installed
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Awesome dhiraj! Looks great! Great custom touch
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Independence Weekend Ride to Agra (14-16th Aug 2015)

Enroute on Yamuna Expressway with my daughter
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At our hotel in Agra, Ramada Plaza
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The Heritage Rules!!
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Ready for the return journey
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605 kms round trip from Meerut
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Odo crossed the 6.5 k mark
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The rear brake pads seemed to have gone a bit early. Need to get it changed/checked.

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On the return journey from Agra, in the last leg, I had felt that the rear brakes were not functioning fully. I got the rear brake pads and a litre of engine oil for top up to the do the job myself. But on removing the saddle bag to approach the rear brakes, on inspection I found that the rear pads still had nearly 40% of their life left -

Saddle Bag removed
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The new set of brake pads (cost 3990/-)
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The material on each pad is about 4.5~5 mm thick. Harley recommends to change it when it reaches around 1 mm
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Well, my pads were still at around 2~2.5mm mark i.e. about 40% life still left
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So what could be the issue for the sudden loss of braking. I concluded HEAT! On the last leg of the journey heat may have precipitated loss of contact between the pads and the disks. Also I found that the brake oil level in the rear reservoir to be on the lower side. DOT 4 brake oil was recommended. I phoned the service engineer and he said that any good quality DOT 4 fluid can be safely used for top up. The original Harley fluid was 700 bucks. Got hold of Castrol DOT 4 for 100 bucks and topped up. Extra fluid will need to be drained once I get around to changing the pads, when needed.
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Now the brakes are back to perfect. The pads go into the reserve bin waiting for the day when actually needed 3~4k kms down the line.

Also SYN 3 fully synthetic engine oil was called for the occasional 100~200ml top up, if needed (848/- for a quart, 946 ml).
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@dkaile Saab,

A big shoutout and thanks to you for your comprehensive thread from my good friend who just bought a FLSTC.

Thanks to your thread, he was already very familiar with the bike and helped him a lot.

A picture of his bike attached. An exhaustive list of accessories is being prepared, and will present in new avatar soon.

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A big shoutout and thanks to you for your comprehensive thread from my good friend who just bought a FLSTC.
Many thanks for your kind words gthang. Tell your friend to get in touch with me so that we can also add him to our Heritage specific group on Whatsapp of all Heritage owners in India.

Congratulations once again. Cheers...
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Going quite slow nowadays, touched 7k in about 6 months

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NHR - 2015 - Chandigarh - 21-22 Nov

It was that time of the year again and we followed up last year's Northern HOG Ride to Pushkar with this year's shorter ride to Chandigarh.

So out came the gear
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And we got ready for the 600km ride
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We were 4 Riders from Meerut out of a total of about 900+ from all over India
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It was the usual hoopla affair where we got to meet with many old friends and make some new ones
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Some nice custom bikes were on display
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Can you believe this one's a Superlow!!
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And this one has Air Suspension!
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Impractical, but what a handlebar!
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Some patches were earned along the way. The 10k patch was for the mileage I did on my Superlow which I sold at 10k on the odo
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And this one's on the way for my combined mileage
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Coming up next - the 2nd Service at 8k kms which I did at my residence today.

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