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Old 12th October 2016, 13:40   #31
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Food for thought ..
Thanks pratap... yeah, even I was toying with the idea Of going to Bangalore to rent the bikes for a few hours and try them out. But as it is, already my house members look at me Like I've gone crazy to consider buying a million rupee two wheeler. If I tell them I'll be going out of station to test ride a few bikes so that I can make an informed decision, they will quietly change the locks to the main door when I'm away, and not let me in. That's why I decided to stick to TDs just for a day or two, within coimbatore. anyway, thanks for the link.

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Very detailed and nice TD write up doc. You have some amazing writing skills and not sure how I missed your thread.

I guess you might end up bringing home a Z800 as you look inclined towards Zee.
I had taken my Z800 on almost all type of roads and was always amazed at its versatility. Had done Blr-Hyd round trip and had thoroughly enjoyed ride.,
djay, I think you are the first point of contact for my Z800 madness! It all gathered momentum after reading your ownership thread. Yeah, I think I would be booking the Z800. Their is a small problem. My finances aren't in place as of now and when they would be, the Z800 would have been axed. The problem being, it's going to be replaced by the Z900 and in my eyes the Z900 looks like a grown up version of the mean looking Z800. I don't want grown up. Growing up is a trap, we all know, I'm sure all the grown ups here have lost their wild streak somewhere on the way. I wanted my bike to have the wild streak atleast. Anyway, only time and test rides would tell how good or grown up the Z900 would be.

And now am looking forward for your Z900 thread. Maybe I might catch the Z900 madness from your thread again. We never know

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And now am looking forward for your Z900 thread. Maybe I might catch the Z900 madness from your thread again. We never know
Doc, if I was you I would happily sit and incubate my piggy bank. Lot of new stuff coming our way and with EICMA happening next month the goodies will continue to flow.

If the 800 gets axed then so be it. Always better to buy newer stuff; more novelty value, better resale, no issue of worrying about phased out parts.
The plus side is also that once the newer bikes come out, lots of Z800s will come up in the used bike market. Not a bad deal to buy a nicely kept superbike, you end up saving on the colossal first depreciation hit.

Check how much is the Coimbatore-Milan ticket? Maybe you can go drop some nice drool on the babes in the exhibition (two wheeled kinds of course).
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So, I wanted to go for the brands which have a presence within Coimbatore with adequate service backup for routine and emergencies. Thus, ruling out triumph (sad to see the striple and bonnie out, sob, sniff) and Ducati. Yes a lot many more brands are not in Coimbatore, but these two I was really sad to see them go.
Triumph dealers do offer support to people where there are no dealerships, I know atleast 4 off such owners. And trust me with these bikes even if you have a dealer at stones throw, when things go wrong expect LONG down times, thanks to parts unavailability and tech know how. So it really doesn't matter if dealer is 300 kms away.

Do test ride the new street twin and a Tiger XR, you might just find what you are looking for.
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Doc, if I was you I would happily sit and incubate my piggy bank. Lot of new stuff coming our way...If the 800 gets axed then so be it.....lots of Z800s will come up in the used bike market. Not a bad deal to buy a nicely kept superbike...Check how much is the Coimbatore-Milan ticket? Maybe you can go drop some nice drool on the babes in the exhibition (two wheeled kinds of course).
Hahah, Narula Bhai, there is no piggy bank to sit and incubate on, But, yeah, I get what you are trying to tell me, yes, exciting stuff ahead!

And did you just say "let the Z800 be axed"? Gasp! *my preciousss* Haha, just joking bro. The idea of a well cared-for super-bike is indeed enticing. But anyone who loves their bike so much so as to care for it like a family member, would not give up their bike so soon. I think you would be the good example, look at you, you still love your P220 too much to let it go right? I'm the same kind of person, and I wouldn't wanna get a used bike which has had any less care than that. I hope you understand what I'm drawling on about.

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Triumph dealers do offer support to people where there are no dealerships, I know atleast 4 off such owners. And trust me with these bikes even if you have a dealer at stones throw, when things go wrong expect LONG down times, thanks to parts unavailability and tech know how. So it really doesn't matter if dealer is 300 kms away.
Thanks for the info, Jaggu, waiting times don't worry me as much applying for a loss of pay leave to take the bike till Bangalore or Kochi. But, if there is an option of getting the technician to our doorstep for service, I will definitely look into it. Yeah, triumph test rides would happen when I go to Bangalore or chennai. Am particularly excited about the new Thruxton. Looks heart-achingly beautiful. Looks comfortable too. Don't know if it's gonna be within the budget though. So, have planned a Bonnie and a street triple test ride when my chennai/Bangalore trips happen.
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Am particularly excited about the new Thruxton.
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Looks heart-achingly beautiful. Looks comfortable too. Don't know if it's gonna be within the budget though. So, have planned a Bonnie and a street triple test ride when my chennai/Bangalore trips happen.
Don't go by the looks, Thruxton is not a comfortable bike to do longer distance due to cafe racer seating position. Also make sure what are your criteria's for a bike, since 8-9 lakhs is a large amount.

To give you an example:

Daily ride with comfortable medium touring = Street Twin
Daily ride with sporty burst or even track = Street Triple

I have been through this dilemma and realized what i thought as best option was not really the best for my needs. Was fortunate that things worked out and eventually i got what i was looking for without a big financial hit.
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Don't go by the looks, Thruxton is not a comfortable bike to do longer distance due to cafe racer seating position. Also make sure what are your criteria's for a bike, since 8-9 lakhs is a large amount.

To give you an example:

Daily ride with comfortable medium touring = Street Twin
Daily ride with sporty burst or even track = Street Triple

I have been through this dilemma and realized what i thought as best option was not really the best for my needs. Was fortunate that things worked out and eventually i got what i was looking for without a big financial hit.
Yeah Jaggu, as it is I don't think it's affordable at present. And I think the bike would be more of a weekend rider, with both touring or track happening only when I get the bike and then convince my folks to let me use my only free Sundays for such indulgence. I suspect it would be limited to 200km rides at The max. As you said both the streets looks very good. Hopefully they set up shop in coimbatore soon, fingers crossed. And may I ask, what motorcycle worked out for you?
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And may I ask, what motorcycle worked out for you?
I went for Street Triple after test riding bonnie, though it was a stretch on the pocket. Striple reminded me and gave the feeling of the good ol RD in someways I guess. Loved it and used it for about 2 years, but whenever I did longer rides I was not enjoying it as much. 1- The riding position inspite of me adding a bar raiser was not very easy on my shoulder and palm. The short travel front suspension not helping at all. 2- She was a rabid dog in heat and liked to be kept in the boil and even during cruising would drill a hole through my ears, thanks to the UK spec pipes I was running.

So finally went for the Tiger XRX which was a compromise on city commute ease, but in this two years I was more confident and comfortable handling the bigger bike, and this bike works very well on the longer rides. Managed a fair price on street and came across a very good deal for a used Tiger XRX. Cancelled the new booking (XRX) and picked the preowned one without any further addition to hard EMI's.

Thats my story for now.

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The idea of a well cared-for super-bike is indeed enticing. But anyone who loves their bike so much so as to care for it like a family member, would not give up their bike so soon.I'm the same kind of person, and I wouldn't wanna get a used bike which has had any less care than that. I hope you understand what I'm drawling on about.
I hear you brother

I would never pick up a used ride until I know the owner very very well and know exactly how the bike was kept. Finding such a piece would be rare for a scenario (superbike purchase) which is even rarer for us Indians.

But thats just me & you and I know lot of folks who have picked up pre-loved bikes and are happily living with them.

Personally, nothing beats the experience of buying and nurturing a new machine

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Here is me wishing you many happy miles on your Z800 when you get it. and again, do not forget the ownership report.
Hey, you know what? Finally I made it, brought my Z800 home a few days back. I'd rather wanted to inform about my purchase by coming up with my ownership thread but not getting time to ride or pen down my experience.

And thanks again for your wishes, I never thought in my wildest dreams that I would make it so soon .
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Ownership threads are interesting and fun to read but never thought that a "pre-ownership" thread can also be so interesting. Great writing Doc. I thoroughly enjoyed reading the thread as I am myself in the market for an entry level super-bike since a year or so.

I have been riding a CBR250R since 2011 and sometime last year (2015), I started getting the itch to upgrade to something bigger. I was at St Marks road in Bangalore one day with my wife for lunch when a Street triple zoomed past us. The Triumph showroom was just a stone throw away so I decided to pay them a visit. Wife reluctantly agreed.

It was either the aura of the mean machines or just the feeling of visiting a superbike showroom for the first time in life, I was just blown away and almost made up my mind to get a Triumph bike before even talking to the sales advisor. The sales person forced me to TD the Street Triple which was fitted with an Arrow Exhaust. My wife sat pillion and the guy accompanied us on a RE. Needless to say, I was mesmerized. My wife was scared just by the sound and acceleration although I rode very sedately. Back to showroom, the financing guy was called and we discussed the loan details. A random lunch outing had just turned into a super bike shopping day! After returning home, my nerves cooled down and the idea of atleast looking at other bikes cropped up.

Unfortunately, before I could do anything further on bike hunting, I got a major sports injury and I was grounded for 6 months. Major wrist fracture which required 2 surgeries and physiotherapy, it took me 6 months to get back to riding.

It was already mid 2016 now and there was news of new 800 cc Street Triple in development. So I decided to wait and in the meantime paid a visit to Kawasaki showroom. The same feelings returned. The Z800 did to me what the Striple has done to me last year. I left the showroom determined to arrange the finances and buy the Z800. I needed a few months to arrange the money and when I was ready, EICMA happened.

Kawasaki decided to showcase the Z900 in EICMA. The Z800 was going to be replaced! Why God Why?

So now I am in a predicament.
1. Buy a new Z800 before it goes extinct.
2. Buy a used Z800 as no point spending extra bucks on a bike being axed.
3. Wait for Z900 to be launched in India. Z800 last pieces might be offered on discount.
4. Buy new Z900. It will be costly though and out of reach as Z800 was already at a stretched budget.

Life is so hard
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The sales person forced me to TD the Street Triple which was fitted with an Arrow Exhaust. My wife sat pillion and the guy accompanied us on a RE.
Are you sure the sales guy accompanied you on a RE? Just Curious, as in most cases the sales guys accompany a rider on a bike from the same manufacturer. Or maybe you got caught up in the excitement of the moment and mistook a Bonneville for a RE.


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So now I am in a predicament.
1. Buy a new Z800 before it goes extinct.
2. Buy a used Z800 as no point spending extra bucks on a bike being axed.
3. Wait for Z900 to be launched in India. Z800 last pieces might be offered on discount.
4. Buy new Z900. It will be costly though and out of reach as Z800 was already at a stretched budget.

Life is so hard
Since the Street Triple 675 was able to impress you, any reason for not considering the upcoming Street Triple 765?
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Would suggest you start with your requirements and riding style. There are so many different bikes out there with big price tags, most of them comparable only in terms of price.

Both the bikes in your list are going to be upgraded significantly within the next few months. I would wait it out if I were you, since we are already spending big money on such bikes - another lakh spent or another few months of waiting won't be a cause to repent later.
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Are you sure the sales guy accompanied you on a RE? Just Curious, as in most cases the sales guys accompany a rider on a bike from the same manufacturer. Or maybe you got caught up in the excitement of the moment and mistook a Bonneville for a RE.
Haha. I'm sure it was an RE. It was Classic 500 Desert Storm. Bike lovers can't mistake RE for a Bonneville

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I was considering it but then it was not showcased at EICMA so there was no news of when it will be launched. But then last night I came across this article. Striple 765 launch on 10th Jan 2017. Hopefully it will come to India soon. So I am now considering waiting for it.

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Would suggest you start with your requirements and riding style. There are so many different bikes out there with big price tags, most of them comparable only in terms of price.
As I said, I've been riding a CBR250R for the past 5+ years now so I am pretty sure about my requirement and riding style. I like weekend breakfast rides and occasional weekend rides to places like Ooty and Coorg which are 200 to 300 kms away from Bangalore. I do not like cruisers. I am looking for inline 4 or 3 cylinders as long as it sounds good. I would prefer a faired bike but at my budget, there is no option except CBR650F which I did not like owing to its dated looks and muted exhaust note. This is my personal preference and no offence to any 650F owners. My over stretched budget is 9L so the Striple and Z800 are the bikes I am considering. Benelli 600i also ticks all boxes so I will definitely TD it before taking the final call.

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Both the bikes in your list are going to be upgraded significantly within the next few months. I would wait it out if I were you, since we are already spending big money on such bikes - another lakh spent or another few months of waiting won't be a cause to repent later.
But then with an already over stretched budget of 9L, the updated versions will definitely be going to be out of reach. Unless I consider living on one kidney
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As I said, I've been riding a CBR250R for the past 5+ years now so I am pretty sure about my requirement and riding style. I like weekend breakfast rides and occasional weekend rides to places like Ooty and Coorg which are 200 to 300 kms away from Bangalore. I do not like cruisers. I am looking for inline 4 or 3 cylinders as long as it sounds good. I would prefer a faired bike but at my budget, there is no option except CBR650F which I did not like owing to its dated looks and muted exhaust note. This is my personal preference and no offence to any 650F owners.
Perfect. Looks like you've got that properly figured out.

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My over stretched budget is 9L so the Striple and Z800 are the bikes I am considering. Benelli 600i also ticks all boxes so I will definitely TD it before taking the final call.

But then with an already over stretched budget of 9L, the updated versions will definitely be going to be out of reach. Unless I consider living on one kidney
Please also note the cost of riding gear and accessories, when stretching the budget. For example - A full set of branded sliders should cost you around 22k for the Z and around 25k for the STripple.

Also in case of the Benelli - please note the service interval which is way lesser than the other two. 4000 kms / 4 months, compared to 6000 kms / 6 months for the Z and 10k kms / 1 year for the Triple.

Over the warranty period of 4 years - you do 16 services for the Benelli compared to 8 for the Kawasaki and 4 for the Triumph (Higher costs per service for the triple though). A good amount of money saved in purchase could be spent in servicing.

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Please also note the cost of riding gear and accessories, when stretching the budget. For example - A full set of branded sliders should cost you around 22k for the Z and around 25k for the STripple.
Thanks for mentioning this. When it comes to riding gear, I like to follow 2 rules:
1. ATGATT (All the gear all the time)
2. Investing 10% of bike's cost on riding gear. I have already started investing in upgrading my riding gear for the next bike.

Got riding jacket and gloves from Alpinestars. Expenses 21k+5k = 26k.
Here's a picture of the jacket from a recent ride:
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Got AGV K3SV Elements Helmet from Dainese. 21k.
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Riding pants and boots pending.

I need to factor in the accessories expenses too but it won't be much as I like to keep my ride as close to stock as possible.

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Also in case of the Benelli - please note the service interval which is way lesser than the other two. 4000 kms / 4 months, compared to 6000 kms / 6 months for the Z and 10k kms / 1 year for the Triple.

Over the warranty period of 4 years - you do 16 services for the Benelli compared to 8 for the Kawasaki and 4 for the Triumph (Higher costs per service for the triple though). A good amount of money saved in purchase could be spent in servicing.
Great information . I was of the impression that Benelli service is every 3 months which will be a pain in the back. Servicing cost for Kawasaki and Triumph are similar I believe but then Kawa needs 2 services per annum so that would double the cost. And isn't the warranty period 2 years for these bikes unless I go for extended warranty?
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