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Old 5th December 2007, 10:39   #256
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Not too bad. Yamaha kept the price as low as they could I guess, without going at a loss. On road should be around 11.5 lakhs. Not too far from the grey market bikes at present, but then the knock on effect would be the prices of nearly new grey market bikes falling a bit. Atleast of the R1 for now.
Why is the thread title still the same?

Any problems in the launch?
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Old 5th December 2007, 10:53   #257
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Disappointed too costly i think so i was enjoying more in Mumbai seeing it in Kishan Rao, Maharastra Motors rather then seeing it with that big price tag in authorized showrooms.
Still importing as a completly knock down unit and assembeling it in India will be better option.
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Old 5th December 2007, 10:57   #258
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Yamaha is taking the Indian market for a full ride. The price of the R1 is way too high. A brand new R1 costs 10.5K USD to a buyer( for all practical purposes lets take this price as we do not really know what it costs to a dealer, they of course get a better price). Duty on this at 98% + freight and Insurance is 10.5K USD again. So total is 21K USD which translates to 8.28 Lakh INR. They are selling at 10.5 Lakhs, which is a total rip off.
Keep in mind I have taken the price at 10.5K USD which a customer pays in Retail. You can imagine what price the Yamaha dealership gets it direct from Japan for a Bulk Buy.
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Old 5th December 2007, 11:04   #259
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well, you mean to say the grey market dealers are not taking the customers for a ride? Charging 9 lakhs for a bike that cannot be 100% clean?
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Can we take a test ride ?
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Old 5th December 2007, 11:39   #261
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As of now i don't think any of the yamaha people or mechanics have enough training to assemble the knocked down units here. Maybe in the near future(I hope) that enough expertise would be made and the prices should go down. Any idea in which showrrom these bikes are in chennai ?
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But why dint yamaha opt for CKDs ?.
This would have made bike lot chepear , cheaper is understated word ,since we are talking in lakhs .

Now imagine all the others ,honda,susuki,kawa ...all getting there bikes as CBUs and charging 10 lakhs for each piece :-O .
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The toolings required to import via CKD is another big investment. For the minuscule quantities they will sell, it does not make sense. Maybe SKD was an option they should have explored.

But then again, I believe the laws says that if they plan on selling CKD or SKD, then the bikes must pass the stupid ARAI homologation process. Selling CBU means they bypass this.
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Old 5th December 2007, 11:54   #264
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I agree with rtech, i know what these importers/dealers get these bikes for & that too is a rip off. There are 2-3 people earning their cut before you get it. Paying just 64% duty!

You all know what the papers are like too!
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Whatever the merits or demerits of their pricing or strategy may be, the fact is that for a CHANGE you're seeing some proper bikes being sold in India. It is a refreshing change from the ridiculous strategy of our manufacturers here to upgrade their econo-bikes by 10cc at a time, plaster new stickers on them and sell them as 'New' and 'More Powerful Than Ever Before' with silly names like Hunk, Ambition, Derision, etc.

As time goes by, we will probably see a reduction in duties or a change in strategy by one manufacturer that will trigger a change. It is only a matter of time - there is so much pent of demand in the country for decent two wheelers that they cannot go wrong.

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homologaion process is not that big an issue.if they could have cut a couple of lakhs from the ORP then may be they could have got 20-30% more customers and at a later stage when demand increase (if at all)after dealerships are opened at other parts of the country they could have had a bargain then.i have a gut feel that a f650 episode will be repeated,else they should have gone for the ckd option.the first buyers will be a big looser if they do the homologation and all at a later state and imagine the guy loosing about 2-3 lakhs.sad state of affairs and taking the indian consumers for granded.
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But rtech i know that these bikes were homologated at ARAI, i had heard about an R1 there almost 4-5 months back. I just cannot believe that ARAI has higher standards then places like japan, europe etc...

Who the hell are they trying to fool by even bothering to homologate these bikes?? As if they were going to say "look we dont think these bikes are good enough to be launched in india" hahahaha....morons.
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who has the dealership in mumbai?
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Someone earlier asked if he could get a test ride. The answer is 99% NO. I say this because even in the US(atleast in california) you dont get test rides of any japanese bikes but funnily you do get to test ride BMW's & some other european bikes! Hence i doubt we will get to test ride these as there are just TOO MANY time wasters/dreamers here.
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who has the dealership in mumbai?

Dealers:

Delhi -1

Delhi Scooters
A 31-A, Rajouri Garden, New Delhi-110027
TEL - 011-25103418, 25913349, 25411667, 9968004482


Ahemdabad -1

Planet Automobiles
1/2, Iskon Plaza, Near Sundervan, Satellite, Ahemdabad-380015
TEL - 09825006621, 09825303300.


Bangalore -2

Bangalore Wheels
No. 1016/1, Mani Complex, I Main, DR. Rajkumar Road, IV Block, Rajajinagar, Bangalore - 560 010
TEL : +91 80 23150561 / +91 80 23158562 / +91 80 23159563
FAX: +91 80 23119598

Orion Motors
#518,Hosur Road, Opposite to Forum Mall, Bangalore -560 029
TEL: 080 -255 24747.

Chennai -1

Ambal Motors
963,P.H.Road, Puraswakkam, Chennai-600084
TEL- 044 42174773 FAX-044-26613036

Reference : xBhp - View Single Post - Yamaha R1 & MT-01 launched 4th Dec 07 (Price-10.5lakh)-Pics on post 57,73
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