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Old 22nd September 2007, 13:19   #1
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Default Supercar vs Superbike: The age old fight once again!

There is no doubt that superbikes offer the best bag for the buck there is in the world of wheels. But, with supercars getting faster and more powerful every year, where is the gap at the moment?

The October 2007 issue of T.W.O. (Two Wheels Only) carries just such a comparison, albeit with a small twist thrown in as well. They didn't just test the fastest, most modern superbikes, but they also pit a huge, heavy transcontinental tourer - the Honda Goldwing, against a new Porsche 911 GT3.

They go a step further and pit a 1980's Suzuki Katana 1100 against a Ford GT40 - Classic vs classic! And then a 1997 Yamaha Thunderace (same bike as our manson's) against a brand new Audi R8!

The results:
The current day machines:
Lamborghini Gallardo vs Suzuki GSX-R1000

Price (in UKP): 152,000 / 8,799
Power (BHP): 530 / 163
0-100-0mph (sec): 19.8 / 9.9
0-100mph: 13.3 / 5.4
100-0mph: 6.5 / 4.5

Car 0 / Bike 1

Classic vs classic
Ford GT40 vs Suzuki Katana 1100

Price (in UKP): 98,000 / 3,300
Power (BHP): 430 / 96
0-100-0mph (sec): 13.6 / 19.8
0-100mph: 8.5 / 13.3
100-0mph: 4.8 / 6.5

Car 1 / Bike 1

Opposites!
Porsche GT3 vs Honda Goldwing

Price (in UKP): 79,540 / 17,499
Power (BHP): 415 / 116
0-100-0mph (sec): 13.6 / 19.7
0-100mph: 8.8 / 12.8
100-0mph: 4.0 / 7.0

Car 2 / Bike 1

Modern vs 10 year old
Audi R8 vs Yamaha Thunderace

Price (in UKP): 82,025 / 1,499
Power (BHP): 414 / 126
0-100-0mph (sec): 15.5 / 11.8
0-100mph: 10.7 / 6.7
100-0mph: 4.4 / 5.1

Car 2 / Bike 2

So, a 10 year old bike which you can buy for 1,500 pounds can take the pants of a brand new Audi R8, and a brand new GSX-R1000 can shame a 100K+ supercar! This shows the progress of superbikes, from the 80's where the fastest bike was still slower than an all out race car, to the 90's, where a superbike was faster than the supercars of the era, to 2000, where the bikes are still ahead!

Moral of the Story: Bikes rule!!
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Old 22nd September 2007, 13:22   #2
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Just some other 0-100-0 figures to give an idea:

Ariel Atom: 11.35
Lambo Murcielago: 12.7
Lotus 2-Eleven: 14.9
BMW M5 Touring: 15.4
Cayenne Turbo: 16.6
Subaru RB320: 17.15
Civic Type R: 21.0
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Old 22nd September 2007, 14:09   #3
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Where's that fast Audi again

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Old 22nd September 2007, 14:26   #4
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Yeah Bikes do rule... most of the times.

This topic reminds me of an article I had written on the Kawasaki ZX10R vs the Lamborghini Gallardo (for bike india mag last yr..)
Do I have permission to paste it here (from the mods..)

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Old 22nd September 2007, 14:27   #5
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Now, lets talk about traction .Shall we??
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Dude... i'm not pro-car or anything (in fact I'm a biker at heart), but would like to bring one point to everybody's notice:
These are basically straight line figures... where the high power to weight ratio of a bike is bound to give it an edge! But what would happen if a bike was to race a car on a track or an actual road where braking, turning and safety come into picture!? Here's an example:

Listen to the audio very carefully....
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Old 22nd September 2007, 14:50   #7
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Oh c'mon you bikers!

1. If we crash while speeding....me in my (potential) supercar and you in your (potential) superbike. Then we'll talk.

2. At 250 kph, you will risk being blown off by the wind while I will only "start" accelerating.

3. And dont supercars corner better than superbikes?

4. You require much less skill to put a car through its paces than a superbike. The car will always be more forgiving.

5. Leaving price out of the picture....a Porsche 911 or a Yamaha R1. Which would you rather own?

And yeah, lets take our girls out when its pouring .

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Old 22nd September 2007, 14:58   #8
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Ya! I forgot to mention the rain! And also the girls!!!
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Old 22nd September 2007, 15:04   #9
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1. Its fun being with a gal on a bike when its rainin, than in a car . I hope u get what i mean

2. The "0-100km/h in 3sec" machine can still deliver 15-16kmpl when required

3. You can own 10 different kinds of SBKs or one Supercar

4. Colaba to New Mumbai. The SBK will reach first, intact. The Supercar will reach second, with the underbelly probably ...er...well

Jokes apart, it finally boils down to personal opinion.
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1. If we crash while speeding....me in my (potential) supercar and you in your (potential) superbike. Then we'll talk.
That actually ups the ante on the adrenaline and thrill factor while riding a motorcycle at high speed .

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2. At 250 kph, you will risk being blown off by the wind while I will only "start" accelerating.
By the time you reach 250 a corner or traffic would come and you would have to slow down, I on the other hand can squeeze through and in no time get back to the speed I was at.

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3. And dont supercars corner better than superbikes?.
Ever scraped your knee guards while cornering a supercar? If not, then you are not cornering hard enough!

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4. You require much less skill to put a car through its paces than a superbike. The car will always be more forgiving.
That means we bikers are much more talented and skilled, while car drivers on the other hand...

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5. Leaving price out of the picture....a Porsche 911 or a Yamaha R1. Which would you rather own?
R1 of course, who would want that awkward looking thing!

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And yeah, lets take our girls out when its pouring .
Rainy season is the best time of year for riding.

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Dude... i'm not pro-car or anything (in fact I'm a biker at heart), but would like to bring one point to everybody's notice:
These are basically straight line figures... where the high power to weight ratio of a bike is bound to give it an edge! But what would happen if a bike was to race a car on a track or an actual road where braking, turning and safety come into picture!? Here's an example:

Listen to the audio very carefully....
You might not want to watch this ,
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here's another thing to ponder on to all those who say a car is much faster around a circuit.

The current track record at Kari Motor Speedway is held by a 600cc basically stock street bike running on street legal tyres, not a single seater, purpose made Formula car running on slicks

So while usually it would hold true, its not always a cut and dry result.

Next please!
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A Good handling car (elise/exige) is a pleasure to drive, as is a good bike. So its basically 50:50 between a car and a bike with a car being more equal than a bike
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here's another thing to ponder on to all those who say a car is much faster around a circuit.

The current track record at Kari Motor Speedway is held by a 600cc basically stock street bike running on street legal tyres, not a single seater, purpose made Formula car running on slicks

So while usually it would hold true, its not always a cut and dry result.

Next please!
And here's another one for bikes/bikers



I agree Civic Type R is no supercar but it has been designed keeping a race track rather than the road in mind. Thats explains the huge difference in lap times.

And this is more appropriate for the street:



While the car vs. bike debate rages on unabated, it goes without saying that the skill level of the car driver and the bike rider should be similar otherwise it would not portray the true capabilities of the bike/car.
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Old 22nd September 2007, 16:26   #15
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Man bikes and bikersdon't get any better than this. This is a no holes barred battle. Italian stallion vs. Italian raging bull. Who will be the last man err.. beast standing? Find out:



Awesome riding. Thats all the adjectives I can use. One cannot complain that it is an indicator of a bike's straight line performance only.
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