Which new diesel SUV should I recommend?? - Team-BHP

CaliforniaKnight · 13th February 2006, 10:49

Hi all,

My uncle's TATA SAFARI which he bought brand new in 2001 has clocked 4,23,000 Km and he is happy with it.But of late he is facing problems day by day and hence he plans for a new diesel SUV.
My uncle is an Architect and therefore lot of visiting locations, sites, driving over potholes, broken tarmac etc etc.
He asks my help to decide on one...and keeps on checking with his friends about the HYUNDAI TUCSON !! How is this car?? or is TERRACAN better?? These are the only 2 diesel SUV's we could think of, or is something better coming?The outlander from Mitsubishi I am told has a petrol heart!

The DICOR was considered but its now ruled out, 'cause its just another SAFARI with a bigger heart

.
His Budget is 17 Lakhs which can be stretched to 20 MAX.
Waiting for your valuable sugestions...
Thanks in advance.

zenx · 13th February 2006, 12:01

4,23,000 kms!!!! wow. The detailed report of this vehicle, problems faced, tyre changes, service quality etc etc should be the definitive word for the Safari

Do us the favour, please !

kpzen · 13th February 2006, 12:51

Both Terracan n Tucson are pretty good...
Terracan - monster looks with loads of space.....
Tucson - younger sibling with eye catching looks....
What can i say abt the CRDi engines..!!! Simply love them....they have so much raw T which give u so much G- force which can cause u neck pains too..

tsk1979 · 13th February 2006, 12:54

Tucson fits the bill perfectly.
Terracan is bigger but then its kinda overpriced too.

Steeroid · 13th February 2006, 14:18

Tucson is nice, but the Terracan would be better since he has a fairly large budget. He could also consider the Nissan X-trail but its not drastically different from the Tucson and costs about 9 lakhs more.

I believe HM is pricing a Pajero in the 18 lakhs+ bracket - 2.8 litre Turbodiesel and all that. You should take a look at that one too.

BTW 423k on a Safari is SERIOUS mileage - can we have a report on that experience, please? Second hand chalega - your uncle can narrate and you can put it down for us....

Abhay · 13th February 2006, 14:19

Tucson, Terracan and Endeavour come to mind.
But I would suggest the Tucson, with the CRDi engine is prolly the best of the lot....also check out the review on it as there is a member who bought a Tucson sometime ago.

CaliforniaKnight · 14th February 2006, 09:48

The Safari was big, comfortable and could be taken anywhere, ok performance was very poor. Now after having travelled in the safari for so long, the TUCSON looks small, feels small and light.but I agree performance is amazing.This is why I am more keen toward the TERRACAN..which itself is big.
But a friend who bought the TERRACAN sold it within 4 months of use, he says, it is not comfortable and you get serious BACKPAIN duriing your long drives..is this true?? anyone heard something like this??
I am keen toward the ENDEAVOUR also but, the driving experience + rear seat space worries me.
The 2.8 L pajero,any guesses how much is it ON ROAD??

suman · 14th February 2006, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaKnight

The 2.8 L pajero,any guesses how much is it ON ROAD??

Wait for the Mitsubishi Montero which is rumored to be in the 18-20 range, has more equipment and should be a whole lot better than the 2.8 Pajero; supposed to launch in the next couple of months

Boom Shiva · 14th February 2006, 10:40

I agree with Suman. Wait for the Mitsu.

himanshugoswami · 14th February 2006, 11:20

word from Hyundai dealers is that the Terracan has been withdrawn from the market by Hyundai.

if ur uncle drives over broken roads an upaved areas, avoid the tuscon. go for the Endeavour- it is custom built for such a purpose.

the 2.8 PAJ is euro II only so if ur uncle is a metro deweller, then he cant get it registered there.

devarshi84 · 15th February 2006, 00:59

terracan is not really a success in India. Maintainence would be on the higher side and resale will be close to tucson's.

Ford endeavour is also a good product if it is still available for sale.

Mitsubishi's new SUV is good but the looks are not as macho as Tucson or endeavour.

Mpower · 15th February 2006, 03:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by suman

Wait for the Mitsubishi Montero which is rumored to be in the 18-20 range, has more equipment and should be a whole lot better than the 2.8 Pajero; supposed to launch in the next couple of months

Montero 3.2 diesel for 18 lakhs. No way! Its lined up with the Prado which is 32 lakhs. Montero will be in the 28-30 range.

Veelubai · 15th February 2006, 12:34

Guyz the new MONTERo is making its way 2 our shores with subtle changes and will B pegged squarely at the Prado.I guess there R no changes under the hood.The only major changes R the Bold new corporate GRILL and of course the price tag...which is definitely arnd 28-32lacs...oh 4got 1 thing the new one hav delicious 17inch alloys and a better Spare wheel cover.

Steeroid · 15th February 2006, 12:49

I did hear that HM is planning an 'SUV' in the 18 lakh range. Would that be the Outlander then? And would it come with a diesel? I guess it could come with the 2.8 litre turbodiesel that the older generation Pajero was sold here - that engine was 'localised' by HM so it should help keep costs down.

suman · 15th February 2006, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

Montero 3.2 diesel for 18 lakhs. No way! Its lined up with the Prado which is 32 lakhs. Montero will be in the 28-30 range.

My apologies, I was mixing it up with the Outlander (rumored to be in the 15-18 category); although primarily a Petrol beast, they did talk about a Diesel option as well.

You are correct

Montero would be in the 28-30 range! But I would still recommend highly over the Pajero 2.8

13th February 2006, 10:49	#1 (permalink)
CaliforniaKnight BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: IND + DXB Posts: 642 View My Garage	Which new diesel SUV should I recommend?? Hi all, My uncle's TATA SAFARI which he bought brand new in 2001 has clocked 4,23,000 Km and he is happy with it.But of late he is facing problems day by day and hence he plans for a new diesel SUV. My uncle is an Architect and therefore lot of visiting locations, sites, driving over potholes, broken tarmac etc etc. He asks my help to decide on one...and keeps on checking with his friends about the HYUNDAI TUCSON !! How is this car?? or is TERRACAN better?? These are the only 2 diesel SUV's we could think of, or is something better coming?The outlander from Mitsubishi I am told has a petrol heart! The DICOR was considered but its now ruled out, 'cause its just another SAFARI with a bigger heart . His Budget is 17 Lakhs which can be stretched to 20 MAX. Waiting for your valuable sugestions... Thanks in advance. __________________ Been there, done that........ but I MISS the MONSOON DRIVE '08

13th February 2006, 12:01	#2 (permalink)
zenx BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 634 View My Garage	4,23,000 kms!!!! wow. The detailed report of this vehicle, problems faced, tyre changes, service quality etc etc should be the definitive word for the Safari Do us the favour, please ! __________________ Sameer, Bangalore

13th February 2006, 12:51	#3 (permalink)
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Noida Posts: 3,265 View My Garage	Both Terracan n Tucson are pretty good... Terracan - monster looks with loads of space..... Tucson - younger sibling with eye catching looks.... What can i say abt the CRDi engines..!!! Simply love them....they have so much raw T which give u so much G- force which can cause u neck pains too.. __________________ Prajesh - << will be mostly offline till August >> A true friend is someone who says nice things behind your back...

13th February 2006, 12:54	#4 (permalink)
tsk1979 Team-BHP Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Noida, New Delhi Posts: 8,352 View My Garage	Tucson fits the bill perfectly. Terracan is bigger but then its kinda overpriced too. __________________ Reclaiming.....!

13th February 2006, 14:18	#5 (permalink)
Steeroid Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DXB Posts: 5,357 View My Garage	Tucson is nice, but the Terracan would be better since he has a fairly large budget. He could also consider the Nissan X-trail but its not drastically different from the Tucson and costs about 9 lakhs more. I believe HM is pricing a Pajero in the 18 lakhs+ bracket - 2.8 litre Turbodiesel and all that. You should take a look at that one too. BTW 423k on a Safari is SERIOUS mileage - can we have a report on that experience, please? Second hand chalega - your uncle can narrate and you can put it down for us.... __________________ Cheers Steer The Land is in the past, now where do I find the 6-cylinder Ponton? Last edited by Steeroid : 13th February 2006 at 14:20.

13th February 2006, 14:19	#6 (permalink)
Abhay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 425 View My Garage	Tucson, Terracan and Endeavour come to mind. But I would suggest the Tucson, with the CRDi engine is prolly the best of the lot....also check out the review on it as there is a member who bought a Tucson sometime ago. __________________ 2005 Tata Indica LGi

14th February 2006, 09:48	#7 (permalink)
CaliforniaKnight BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: IND + DXB Posts: 642 View My Garage	The Safari was big, comfortable and could be taken anywhere, ok performance was very poor. Now after having travelled in the safari for so long, the TUCSON looks small, feels small and light.but I agree performance is amazing.This is why I am more keen toward the TERRACAN..which itself is big. But a friend who bought the TERRACAN sold it within 4 months of use, he says, it is not comfortable and you get serious BACKPAIN duriing your long drives..is this true?? anyone heard something like this?? I am keen toward the ENDEAVOUR also but, the driving experience + rear seat space worries me. The 2.8 L pajero,any guesses how much is it ON ROAD?? __________________ Been there, done that........ but I MISS the MONSOON DRIVE '08

14th February 2006, 10:40	#9 (permalink)
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,062	I agree with Suman. Wait for the Mitsu.

14th February 2006, 11:20	#10 (permalink)
himanshugoswami BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: !!!! Posts: 877	word from Hyundai dealers is that the Terracan has been withdrawn from the market by Hyundai. if ur uncle drives over broken roads an upaved areas, avoid the tuscon. go for the Endeavour- it is custom built for such a purpose. the 2.8 PAJ is euro II only so if ur uncle is a metro deweller, then he cant get it registered there. __________________ I asked Mom if I was a gifted child...she said they certainly wouldn't have paid for me.- Calvin

15th February 2006, 00:59	#11 (permalink)
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 2,948 View My Garage	terracan is not really a success in India. Maintainence would be on the higher side and resale will be close to tucson's. Ford endeavour is also a good product if it is still available for sale. Mitsubishi's new SUV is good but the looks are not as macho as Tucson or endeavour. __________________ boyracer.blogspot.com

15th February 2006, 12:34	#13 (permalink)
Veelubai BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Thrissur Posts: 198	Guyz the new MONTERo is making its way 2 our shores with subtle changes and will B pegged squarely at the Prado.I guess there R no changes under the hood.The only major changes R the Bold new corporate GRILL and of course the price tag...which is definitely arnd 28-32lacs...oh 4got 1 thing the new one hav delicious 17inch alloys and a better Spare wheel cover. Last edited by Veelubai : 15th February 2006 at 12:35.

15th February 2006, 12:49	#14 (permalink)
Steeroid Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DXB Posts: 5,357 View My Garage	I did hear that HM is planning an 'SUV' in the 18 lakh range. Would that be the Outlander then? And would it come with a diesel? I guess it could come with the 2.8 litre turbodiesel that the older generation Pajero was sold here - that engine was 'localised' by HM so it should help keep costs down. __________________ Cheers Steer The Land is in the past, now where do I find the 6-cylinder Ponton?

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