Toyota Innova Variant and TCO Analysis Workshop 2008

[akshay1234]

Originally Posted by Xehaust

- The M5 Replica Alloys in your pics does'nt suit the Innova IMHO. But then again, thats a personal opinion.


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Thats the end of it. hehe

thats from my car. then again its your opinion.

Originally Posted by btirthankar

Running board is the aluminum beam that is fitted sideways of the length of the car below the doors. I dont know whats the function (unless you may need the car on 26th jan parade to allow the security guards to .... ride on them (one foot)

Door beading are the plastiv/pvc strips for protection on the doors. aesthetic and scratch prevention.

the running board is supposed to help short or old or handicapped people to get in. IMO it just spoils the looks. make sure you see an innova with it before deciding on it.

[shatrughna]

@ Tirthankar. - Are you going in for Diesel or Petrol engine? I am still in dilemma which one is better - Innova/ Safari/ Sumo Grande. I like the interiors, features and fit finish of Innova but 4*4 of Safari hence, not yet even gone for test drive. Your discussions are quite informative but also added to my confusion a li'l more.

[akshay1234]

Originally Posted by shatrughna

@ Tirthankar. - Are you going in for Diesel or Petrol engine? I am still in dilemma which one is better - Innova/ Safari/ Sumo Grande. I like the interiors, features and fit finish of Innova but 4*4 of Safari hence, not yet even gone for test drive. Your discussions are quite informative but also added to my confusion a li'l more.

hes going in for a diesel from what i can make out in the earlier posts.

[btirthankar]

[btirthankar]

Originally Posted by akshay1234

thats from my car. then again its your opinion.

Ha... thats one our our members car I know. Its in the gallery pool. I hope no objection. But If alloys then the best ones I like are the one which look like turbine blade...some brushed aluminum fronts and matte black rest.

Here i got the exact one..... and they will look deadly with the black color too.



Wheel Caps: hypes & truths an article I wrote some 6 years back

[btirthankar]

Originally Posted by akshay1234

IMO it just spoils the looks. make sure you see an innova with it before deciding on it.

Beg ur pardon... but whats IMHO?

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by btirthankar

Beg ur pardon... but whats IMHO?

IMO: In my opinion
IMHO : In my humble opinion

[akshay1234]

Originally Posted by btirthankar

Ha... thats one our our members car I know. Its in the gallery pool. I hope no objection. But If alloys then the best ones I like are the one which look like turbine blade...some brushed aluminum fronts and matte black rest.

Here i got the exact one..... and they will look deadly with the black color too.



Wheel Caps: hypes & truths an article I wrote some 6 years back

no objection. that finish is called black machine in india and all popular brands like plati, hr have it.

Originally Posted by btirthankar

Beg ur pardon... but whats IMHO?

IMO = im my opinion. IMHO = in my humble/honest opinion

[btirthankar]

Diesel Vs. Petrol Torque Curve

• @ 2000 - 3000 rpm (normal driving rpm range) the petrol never reaches the torque levels (being max 162nm) that diesel reaches (Flat 200nm)
• @ 2000 - 3000 rpm again, the tradeoff is 55 bhp+/- for diesel and 80 bhp +/- for petrol.

Ok ... now Guys, can you elaborate the same in application to driving experience?

[akshay1234]

the petrol takes 13seconds to a 100.
the diesel takes 16+ seconds to a 100.

in the city in traffic you will find the diesel easier to drive with less gearshifts due to the torque.
with the petrol you will need to change gears more frequently.

on the highway the diesel has enough power and torque for overtaking.
the petrol can cruise at high speeds better. above 140kmph.

the mileage of the diesel - city-9-10. highway - 12-16.
petrol - city-6-8 . highway- 9-11.


with petes -
diesel - 12.3seconds 0-100. creams the petrol in mileage and drivealbility.
been using petes for more than 8000kms on my car.

IMO diesel is a better choice/

have you TDed both?

[trrk]

Hi,

> I feel i'll be happy with stock tyres... d u agree it is ok technically

I had a Innova V diesel between June 2005 and August 2007. It came with Goodyear tyres. I sold it with 26211kms on the odo. The tyres never game any problem. But then my speeds are usually in the 80s.

With AC throughout its life with me, it gave 12.21kpl, with a high of 14.30kpl and lows usually in the 10+ range. Only once it dipped to 9.50kpl.

[btirthankar]

Originally Posted by trrk

Hi,

> I feel i'll be happy with stock tyres... d u agree it is ok technically

I had a Innova V diesel between June 2005 and August 2007. It came with Goodyear tyres. I sold it with 26211kms on the odo. The tyres never game any problem. But then my speeds are usually in the 80s.

With AC throughout its life with me, it gave 12.21kpl, with a high of 14.30kpl and lows usually in the 10+ range. Only once it dipped to 9.50kpl.

I'd say you may be my kinda driver...soft on the pedal...timely gear changes (1700-2200 rpm)

I never exceed 80 on 2 lane highways, 100-110 on 4 lane highways and 110-120 on 6 lane highways in my opel...though due to the reason I dont find the brakes too good but the car does have straight line stability. I enjoy cruising and looking at the scenery so much that its my wife's job to look read the signages as my eyes are mostly fixed on the upcoming obstacles and then look at the scenery in between blinks.

Maybe my driving behavior will change once I take on the Innova.

[akshay1234]

Originally Posted by btirthankar

I'd say you may be my kinda driver...soft on the pedal...timely gear changes (1700-2200 rpm)

I never exceed 80 on 2 lane highways, 100-110 on 4 lane highways and 110-120 on 6 lane highways in my opel...though due to the reason I dont find the brakes too good but the car does have straight line stability. I enjoy cruising and looking at the scenery so much that its my wife's job to look read the signages as my eyes are mostly fixed on the upcoming obstacles and then look at the scenery in between blinks.

Maybe my driving behavior will change once I take on the Innova.

your driving will be pretty much the same. infact youll enjoy driving the stock diesel like that. but i still recommend michelin mxv8s in stock size. they will improve the ride.

[trrk]

Hi btirthankar,

> I'd say you may be my kinda driver...soft on the pedal...timely gear changes
> (1700-2200 rpm)

We have a maximum speed limit of 70kph in our roads. Started sticking to it and enjoying it.

With the torque of the diesel, it is almsost like an automatic on the highways.

[btirthankar]

Originally Posted by trrk

Hi btirthankar,

> I'd say you may be my kinda driver...soft on the pedal...timely gear changes
> (1700-2200 rpm)

We have a maximum speed limit of 70kph in our roads. Started sticking to it and enjoying it.

With the torque of the diesel, it is almost like an automatic on the highways.

I agree with you with the torque experience. My wife recently learnt driving in a diesel indica ans she cant drive my astra properly (always does incorrent gear changes and clutch releases). Give an indica and she can still drive. Its difficult to explain women anyways :-0

I may have driven a diesel vehicle for not more than 100 kms in my life ever (incl all test drives I ever taken)

Regarding road speed it is imperative for us to realise that every road stretch has its inbuilt speed limit and your 70 kmph seems to be the max (safe) limit on most of our 2 lane state and NHs.