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Old 6th April 2008, 13:28   #1 (permalink)
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Good day to all TBHPians.
Have tried to browse thro' most threads for buying a pick-up or a crew cab but could not find a purposeful/useful thread.I feel that this segment is not discussed in comprehension.I will be very obliged if Tbhp could guide me with their valuable inputs.This could well be a ready guide for quite some of us here.
With swelling Pay packages and ever emerging life styles many people are buying farm houses and farm lands.Thought I am also one of them , I have decided to be a serious fruit grower .My farm land is about 60 km from Pune and drive entrails some patches of broken roads. Off -roading is not the "make your own road type" but a equally bad muddy roads with rocks in between.
I would like to stress that though Mahindra get -away is an very atractive preposition ,I will not like to ferry cow dung in it.I want something more practical.And it feels a bit too expensive too.
I drive a Ikon 1.6 and driving a pickup can be quite a different kind of experience.When-ever I travel to the farm in my car i can only think of one remark that Autocar says about those meaty offroading Fusion ads-Show it a boulder and it will curl up and die.
I require this pick up to ferry mud,fertilizers,cow dung,farm equipment etc.

  • Cars short listed-Mahindra campus/any pick up from the mahindra genere, Tata pickups,Mahindra invader converted into a singe cabin hard top,rally gypsy
  • Price range- 5.5 lac
  • Maintenance & After Sales Service (A.S.S.) expectations-reasonably good
  • Average distance traveled per month- cant say
  • Where car will be mostly used (city / highway / rough roads etc)highway/rough roads
  • Chauffer driven / self driven-self and may be my dad who is 65
  • Whether the vehicle will be shared by other members of family-dad -age 65
  • Any specific requirements from car (ex. Better luggage space, responsive engine, rear seat comfort) -compact -power steering, air conditioning-must.
  • How long you intend on keeping this car (and how important resale is to you)till it or me curls up and dies.
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Old 6th April 2008, 14:19   #2 (permalink)
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IMO-the new TATA mobile is a work horse.Has more loading area at least visually than the mahindra pick up.I think the floor area is important to you too.So i put my bet on the TATA pick up.
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Old 6th April 2008, 15:47   #3 (permalink)
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naj : I have decided to be a serious fruit grower .My farm land is about 60 km from Pune and drive entrails some patches of broken roads. Off -roading is not the "make your own road type" but a equally bad muddy roads with rocks in between.
Congrats. Wishing you a fruitful farming experience !

Have you checked this :
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...oline-4x2.html (My Tata Telcoline 4x2.)

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naj : ... though Mahindra get -away is an very atractive preposition ,I will not like to ferry cow dung in it.

I require this pick up to ferry mud,fertilizers,cow dung,farm equipment etc.
So you wil be carrying cowdung ? Basically, you will have to do it. So let's see :

First analyze your usage. How often are you doing all these things ?
* Just driving
* Carrying equipment
* Carrying chemical fertilizers
* Carrying manure
* Carrying produce

* What if you engage a tractor (on hire) to carry the manure ? Esp Manure is transacted by the tractor-load or pit-wise. You may not need to carry manure by yourself.

* Who drives in each of these cases ?
* How much do you carry each time ?

* How big is your farm ?
* How often do you go there ?

For the usage you intend to apply your vehicle to, it is possible that one vehicle may not be best suited for everything.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/651641-post23.html (Tata winger)


Tata Pick-ups :
* TL is an option. But 7.5L min
* 207 Di Crew-cab : you wont like it. It's too crude

Mahindra :
* Invader - converted : will touch 6.5 easily if you include conversion. Cant carry manuare or large loads.
[ * Same for Gypsy ]
* Getaway : check budget. Check parking space.
* Bolero Camper - Not bad. But check your available parking space. Not much of creature comforts.

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Mahindra & Tata are your options. Equal

For the budget /price range you have mentioned, check out a Mahindra Maxx - the one tonner. It's available for pvt use (white-board) regn in Karnataka, under certain conditions. See if you have any loop holes in MH MV Act for white board regn for specfic use on farms.

Average distance travelled - anaylse your usage, based on points above.

And considering these points:
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  • Where car will be mostly used (city / highway / rough roads etc)highway/rough roads
  • Chauffer driven / self driven-self and may be my dad who is 65
  • Whether the vehicle will be shared by other members of family-dad -age 65
  • Any specific requirements from car (ex. Better luggage space, responsive engine, rear seat comfort) -compact -power steering, air conditioning-must.
  • How long you intend on keeping this car (and how important resale is to you)till it or me curls up and dies.
I would suggest that you consider separating the usage, and have two vehicles. The rougher one (what ever you decide on - TL / Invader / Bolero Camper / any other - can be driven by the driver. That way, if you decide on a vehicle that doesnt have PS etc, it will still not hurt much.

And, having a separate vehicle for the farm will help you splurge on your city vehilce - or you could even have a Safari / Scorpio to tackle those bad roads, & yet use it in the city comfortably.
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Old 6th April 2008, 16:15   #4 (permalink)
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Mahindra Maxx - the only economical option at this moment.

Mahindra MAXX PIK UP- Silver Jubilee Motors - Authorised dealers for Mahindra & Mahindra's vehicles in Maharashtra. INDIA

Since you're just about to start farming, it makes sense to pick up something utilitarian rather than a lifestyle vehicle like the Bolero Camper/Invader/TL/Xenon.

Like Condor says, a tractor + trailer is the most sensible buy. I'm assuming that you're buying a farm to grow stuff, not just as a lifestyle accessory like the New Delhi Farmhouses.
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Old 6th April 2008, 16:58   #5 (permalink)
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Hi!
Thanks Ram ,Condor and steeroid.
I am a captain in the merchant navy.
I work on 3 on and 3 off rotation.Hence I do have a hell of a holiday in between.And the farming is something I am doing for myself.Something which will keep me occupied and I feel that I can derive a lot of satisfaction from it.
Hence I will be doing the rounds in the pick up.I am NOT to be in actual hard core farming like sugarcane etc, but fruits which are relatively easy and I can manage.
I am kind off more inclined towards the campus,bolero pick up or the tata 207 provided it has the two most important comforts of an AC and PS.
The TL /gateaway seems costly because I can utilise those funds in the plantation project.Parking in the city of pune is no problem .I have got space.
In India we really do not have options as for as a pickup or a truck is concerned.
And here is a image factor too.I am lucky that my son is small.If he was grown up perhaps he could have frowned at the sight of his father in a rustic maxi cab,more so in front of his hep friend circle.
A tractor and trailer is something I will not drive ???.But just for information ,there are a lot of subsidies for that .Now one can get a mini tractor and trailer for 1.1 lacs provided you are a farmer .Mr Bachan can also qualify for it , in Maharastra.
Recently Mahindra have launched a face lifted camper .Will go and check it out and post a review.
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Old 16th April 2008, 15:03   #6 (permalink)
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few suggestions are Mahindra UTILITI, Mahindra Bolero Camper, Mahindra PIK UP which are all relatively less expensive and functional but totally without frills!
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If you do not mind the yellow plates than there are a lot of option in the market, tata 207DI,M&M camper,MAX,etc, cops usually tend to stop these vehicles when ever they get chance. If you want a private passing vehicle than you will have to go in for TL or getaway and some models of camper I think as there are seats at the back [ in the bed].
M&M has launched a limited edition of Camper[don't know whats new in it], but that I believe has private plate passing too. From what I get is you are looking for some light loads like fertilizer and getting grow to market.
You should be fine with a long wheel base bolero. We did fine with the 750DP.
And if you are really into the trucks, I suggest you go in for the TL or 207DI, good engines [reliable] and can carry more load as compared to M&M [size is smaller than tata], and more comfortable than the M&Ms. I do have a M&M pickup on the farm they are good but not as good as the tata.[ the control are heavier than those on 207 DI].
Most of the vehicle in this category come with power steering as options but few have the option of AC ,but dealer do the job of fitting them.And by the way there are subsides for these Pick ups too, depending on what you are growing.
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