buy Scorpio from Chandigarh/Mumbai - Team-BHP

nix' · 17th May 2008, 02:47

Hi
I would be shifting to Mumbai soon and was planning to buy a Scorpio Lx.
However, I discovered that the cost of the variant on-road comes to be 7.44 Lacs in Chandigarh and 8.36 in Mumbai. The Ex-showroom is lesser and the RTO fee is also lesser by 50 k.
Can I buy my car in Chandigarh and then get it transported to Mumbai??
Considering my co. might pay for the transit, do you think I'll face any problem keeping a Chd. registration car in Mumbai or would I have to change the registration to MH anyway (and thus pay the extra RTO amount of Rs.50k) ??

GTO · 17th May 2008, 14:24

Nix,

Don't you think others would have already thought of it, and followed suit? To use a car (long-term) in Maharashtra, it is imperative for the registration to be local. The RTO has frequently clamped down on out-state cars being used by local residents. Some have even been seized; released only after paying a penalty.

If you intend to settle permanently in Mumbai, it is best for you to buy a MH registration Scorpio.

P.S: Good luck with the move. If you need any help, just ask. I am sure a lot of us Mumbaikars would be more than willing to assist.

CR-V · 17th May 2008, 14:31

You can keep an outstation vehicle in another state maximum for a period of three months. That means even if you get your car outside Mumbai and get the toll tax slip no cop can do anything. Or else you are a govt. official and has been transfered to the state, in that case you can keep any registered vehicle anywhere.

ramie2400 · 17th May 2008, 16:08

he Nix as GTO said,get the car from Mumbai only,as using another state registration will be alot hassel,all the more you will get caught at signals,routine check-naka's.Mumbai police is a bit-strict when it comes to number-plate.

How much is the price difference in chandigarah/Mumbai?

dadu · 17th May 2008, 16:53

Its a risk, one of my ex-colleague kept his delhi reg car for 2-3 yrs without getting caught and on the other hand one car from the Company was transferred to a person entitled in mumbai from delhi and it got caught after 2 yrs, Company paid the penalty and got it released.

As per rules you have to pay RT even for CG empl or others like in defence services personal car but the rates are lesser/ different. But most of them get away by showing their ID's.

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Originally Posted by CR-V

You can keep an outstation vehicle in another state maximum for a period of three months. That means even if you get your car outside Mumbai and get the toll tax slip no cop can do anything. Or else you are a govt. official and has been transfered to the state, in that case you can keep any registered vehicle anywhere.

CR-V · 17th May 2008, 17:03

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Originally Posted by dadu

But most of them get away by showing their ID's.

thats what happens with me...

but i don't keep a car for years, my cars are always in rotation (6 months max). I keep exchanging cars from delhi to bombay. like I had octavia in mumbai, so than i got the crv here and shifted octavia back to delhi.
so that means i am not breaking any law.cheers:

CR-V

nix' · 17th May 2008, 19:04

Thanks guys.
As of not I'll be taking my Swift there... Chandigarh registration... once there.. will decide either to keep my Swift (and get it changed to MH reg) or send it back home and buy a Scorpio.

Ramie.. the price difference is almost 90 K (approx 40k higher ex-showroom in Mumbai and RTO higher by 50k)

shankar.balan · 28th May 2008, 16:31

there is one way out of this in case you are taking a transfer within the same company from one location to another.

you could buy the jeep in chandigarh and register it etc etc
then shift over to bombay with the vehicle
get your company to issue you a transfer letter transferring you to their branch or whatever in bombay - go and show your id and this letter to the bombay RTO and you can get away by not paying the higher road tax/ octroi etc because you are in a transferable job. the date of the letter should be AFTER the purchase date of your jeep though.
i have a colleague who actually did this when he moved from Hyderabad to Bangalore. He paid Rs 3000/- to have his car re-registered as it was a new one at the time.

the main idea being that you have no control over where your company decides to transfer you and therefore ought not to be made to pay all the extra charges of re-registration etc and life tax etc etc.

NetfreakBombay · 28th May 2008, 17:11

Not sure how that would work since apart from RTO, Octrai has to be paid to BMC as well.

dadu · 28th May 2008, 20:04

This is something I was not aware of, can you find out the details on how to get this done.

It will help quite a lot of ppl here.

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Originally Posted by shankar.balan

get your company to issue you a transfer letter transferring you to their branch or whatever in bombay - go and show your id and this letter to the bombay RTO and you can get away by not paying the higher road tax/ octroi etc because you are in a transferable job. the date of the letter should be AFTER the purchase date of your jeep though.
i have a colleague who actually did this when he moved from Hyderabad to Bangalore. He paid Rs 3000/- to have his car re-registered as it was a new one at the time.

the main idea being that you have no control over where your company decides to transfer you and therefore ought not to be made to pay all the extra charges of re-registration etc and life tax etc etc.

shankar.balan · 3rd June 2008, 14:20

I asked my colleague and this is what he told me.

His car was about a year old when he moved cities.

Once he joined our office in Bangalore, he got this letter from our HR Dept.

Went to the local RTO and showed them the letter as well as the actual date of joining etc etc.

By paying the charge of Rs 3000 he actually got his car transferred to this state.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadu

This is something I was not aware of, can you find out the details on how to get this done.

It will help quite a lot of ppl here.

NetfreakBombay · 3rd June 2008, 15:30

IMHO this will not work for Mumbai.

As apart from RTO, tax (Octroi) needs to be paid to Municipality as well.

Is octroi applicable in BLR?

GTO · 3rd June 2008, 18:32

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Originally Posted by shankar.balan

get your company to issue you a transfer letter transferring you to their branch or whatever in bombay - go and show your id and this letter to the bombay RTO and you can get away by not paying the higher road tax/ octroi etc because you are in a transferable job. the date of the letter should be AFTER the purchase date of your jeep though.
i have a colleague who actually did this when he moved from Hyderabad to Bangalore. He paid Rs 3000/- to have his car re-registered as it was a new one at the time.

Not that I doubt your friend did this, but I honestly cant understand why the RTO would waive off their taxes for such cases. I mean, would the RTO really care that you are moving due to a job or marriage or whatever else?

And what companies do they accept a letter from? Any *pappu* can type a letter of transfer on his company letterhead and save taxes?!

shankar.balan · 4th June 2008, 10:16

maybe it was a stray case because he used a tout at the RTO
however the objective has been achieved !
and indeed, he moved down to BLR from HYD as part of the same company and since he had just bought the car there a short time ago, I think even the RTO appreciated the fact, strange though it may seem!
And having just paid life tax in one state and registered a car, it is not really reasonable to expect a car owner to again pay life tax in another state because he got transferred there. And on checking again with him, he said he got an NOC from the HYD RTO and submitted that as well to the BLR RTO along with the company letter.
However, it is worth trying - if you succeed, you are the gainer

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Originally Posted by GTO

Not that I doubt your friend did this, but I honestly cant understand why the RTO would waive off their taxes for such cases. I mean, would the RTO really care that you are moving due to a job or marriage or whatever else?

And what companies do they accept a letter from? Any *pappu* can type a letter of transfer on his company letterhead and save taxes?!

dadu · 4th June 2008, 10:39

I think he is taking you for a ride, once you get an NOC your registration is cancelled and prorata tax refunded only to be registered in the moved state, ofcourse with all the taxes etc paid.

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Originally Posted by shankar.balan

And on checking again with him, he said he got an NOC from the HYD RTO and submitted that as well to the BLR RTO along with the company letter.
However, it is worth trying - if you succeed, you are the gainer

17th May 2008, 02:47	#1 (permalink)
nix' Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 15	buy Scorpio from Chandigarh/Mumbai Hi I would be shifting to Mumbai soon and was planning to buy a Scorpio Lx. However, I discovered that the cost of the variant on-road comes to be 7.44 Lacs in Chandigarh and 8.36 in Mumbai. The Ex-showroom is lesser and the RTO fee is also lesser by 50 k. Can I buy my car in Chandigarh and then get it transported to Mumbai?? Considering my co. might pay for the transit, do you think I'll face any problem keeping a Chd. registration car in Mumbai or would I have to change the registration to MH anyway (and thus pay the extra RTO amount of Rs.50k) ??

17th May 2008, 14:24	#2 (permalink)
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 18,786 View My Garage	Nix, Don't you think others would have already thought of it, and followed suit? To use a car (long-term) in Maharashtra, it is imperative for the registration to be local. The RTO has frequently clamped down on out-state cars being used by local residents. Some have even been seized; released only after paying a penalty. If you intend to settle permanently in Mumbai, it is best for you to buy a MH registration Scorpio. P.S: Good luck with the move. If you need any help, just ask. I am sure a lot of us Mumbaikars would be more than willing to assist. __________________ GTO Work backward from your imagination, not forward from the past! Please don't PM for support. Use the Contact Form instead. Please read the NEW Team-BHP FAQ section for all your queries.

17th May 2008, 14:31	#3 (permalink)
CR-V BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: London Posts: 114 View My Garage	You can keep an outstation vehicle in another state maximum for a period of three months. That means even if you get your car outside Mumbai and get the toll tax slip no cop can do anything. Or else you are a govt. official and has been transfered to the state, in that case you can keep any registered vehicle anywhere. __________________ It's easy to shoot, It's hard to SCORE!!!

17th May 2008, 16:08	#4 (permalink)
ramie2400 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,509 View My Garage	he Nix as GTO said,get the car from Mumbai only,as using another state registration will be alot hassel,all the more you will get caught at signals,routine check-naka's.Mumbai police is a bit-strict when it comes to number-plate. How much is the price difference in chandigarah/Mumbai? __________________ ___________

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17th May 2008, 19:04	#7 (permalink)
nix' Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 15	Thanks guys. As of not I'll be taking my Swift there... Chandigarh registration... once there.. will decide either to keep my Swift (and get it changed to MH reg) or send it back home and buy a Scorpio. Ramie.. the price difference is almost 90 K (approx 40k higher ex-showroom in Mumbai and RTO higher by 50k)

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shankar.balan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,551 View My Garage	there is one way out of this in case you are taking a transfer within the same company from one location to another. you could buy the jeep in chandigarh and register it etc etc then shift over to bombay with the vehicle get your company to issue you a transfer letter transferring you to their branch or whatever in bombay - go and show your id and this letter to the bombay RTO and you can get away by not paying the higher road tax/ octroi etc because you are in a transferable job. the date of the letter should be AFTER the purchase date of your jeep though. i have a colleague who actually did this when he moved from Hyderabad to Bangalore. He paid Rs 3000/- to have his car re-registered as it was a new one at the time. the main idea being that you have no control over where your company decides to transfer you and therefore ought not to be made to pay all the extra charges of re-registration etc and life tax etc etc.

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NetfreakBombay BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 598	Not sure how that would work since apart from RTO, Octrai has to be paid to BMC as well.

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