Planning to get a Safari 2.2 - A bit apprehensive though - Page 10 - Team-BHP

Dragonov · 18th March 2009, 18:32

@ SS - Now we know that we have a great poet here on TBHP

SS-Traveller · 18th March 2009, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by gowda79

TML does not sell Lemons, but the Showroom people do it by selling the Demo vehicles which would be used in unimaginable ways.

What does CCU mean???

Oops, lemons in Delhi was just poetic rhetoric! My apologies if it offended someone. And CCU is the standard airline abbreviation for Kolkata (Calcutta).

sanjayatarizona · 18th March 2009, 18:49

[quote=gowda79;1219389]TML does not sell Lemons, but the Showroom people do it by selling the Demo vehicles which would be used in unimaginable ways. quote]

All demos are lemons ???

gowda79 · 18th March 2009, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanjayatarizona

All demos are lemons ???

Demo vehicles are not Lemons, if those Demo vehicles are sold to a Customer without the customer knowing the background of vehicle then it is a Lemon.

Because the Demo vehicles would be driven by many customers and the way they would have abused that vehicle you cannot imagine.

Some Showroom guys sell these vehicles by informing the customer and giving them discounts for the same and these are not Lemons as the customer would have taken the vehicle knowing the background of the vehicle

adc · 18th March 2009, 19:33

Mr SS-Traveller good lines but some absolutely sweeping questions
Surely there're no objective answers even if all come up with suggestions
And definitely even after 7 days you will have no conclusions
All you will be getting just insinuations and perceptions
Some even just being plain deceptions
And then dont blame me if you end up with multiple indigestions and constipations
But then I see from your profile - you are a doc
And you know the faster way around a health block!!

As for me and many, VTT 2.2 product awesome and sure rocks
Must have seen all those xtreme travel posts and still no bad knocks
No way Safari 2.2 ever left me peripatetic
Nirvana instant on the VTT than being the ascetic

Still if yourself crawl all the net
With open mind and clear slate
Its in fact quite so all the same
Both do get almost equal blame and great name
These are real eco-priced SUV every ready for the game

Scorpio owners are always saying they are not that represented and thus so neglected
Safari owners too telling they only get kicked & are not fairly evaluated or appreciated

Will stop now, some work remaining, - But may be for you just right to go for the Innova and the way I say is no way demeaning.

anupmathur · 18th March 2009, 19:39

Gosh, DocSS and adc, what lyrical questions and answers!

DocSS, are you looking at a 4X4, by any chance? That, unfortunately, rules out the Innova, and your dilemma returns!

4x4addict · 18th March 2009, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by nishant kar

@ PavanKadam

i dont know why did u take things so personally i just said that i FEEL so and i had clearly said so i my previous post also. i am still a die hard fan of safari but at the same time i cant just neglect other facts. regarding the pionts u had raised on various parameters RAJ and ashthedivx have already replied so i dont want to repeat things.

I totally agree with Nishant here. I like the Safari and the Scorpio and want to make an unemotional decision when I decide between the two. Some people on the forum behave like Sycophants when it comes to certain models. The refuse to accept reality and offer a completely biased view of their favorite models.

anupmathur · 18th March 2009, 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

They refuse to accept reality and offer a completely biased view of their favorite models.

Unbiased views?
Best to ask the long distance taxi/fleet owners/operators, repair workshops and the like.
My area of prime holidays being the himalayas, that is where I did a lot of asking around.
Helped me get it all in perspective.

Each of us owns only one of these vehicles (with one or two members being the notable exceptions that own both!).
Why should you have to believe your experience will be the same as mine?
The above section of people deal with MANY assorted vehicles each day! They are in a far better position to give you unbiased and fair reports.

SS-Traveller · 18th March 2009, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by anupmathur

DocSS, are you looking at a 4X4, by any chance?

Very true. No dilemma, however. I can wait a few months for a Scorpio 2.2 4x4 or an upgraded Safari VX 4x4 with better fuel injection system - on the understanding that no other 4x4 will be launched by any other manufacturer at that price point (10-12L).

anupmathur · 18th March 2009, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

Very true. No dilemma, however. I can wait a few months for a Scorpio 2.2 4x4 or an upgraded Safari VX 4x4 with better fuel injection system - on the understanding that no other 4x4 will be launched by any other manufacturer at that price point (10-12L).

Who knows, M&M might do the Xylo! For many, that could be a very good via-media.

BlackPearl · 18th March 2009, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by adc

the VTT 2.2 is a successful product

I agree to that. The number of Safaris sold by TML in the past one year is testimony to that.

phamilyman · 18th March 2009, 22:07

awesome stuff people - lovely poems.

Let me add a different perspective. Till the 2.2, more scorps than safaris were sold. Now atleast visually that is not the case

amitk26 · 19th March 2009, 06:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by phamilyman

awesome stuff people - lovely poems.

Let me add a different perspective. Till the 2.2, more scorps than safaris were sold. Now atleast visually that is not the case

Number of vehicles sold has more to do with pricing since it's launch Scorpio base model was a lakh cheaper then Safari base model till mHwack

With mHwack M&M raised prices reasonably and people shifted to safari.
Now they have done correction with discontining vls and introdcing SLE

jimmyjagga · 20th March 2009, 09:30

Read in TIMES OF INDIA (Interview with Ratan Tata), Tata to Launch New Safari at End of 2009. So Nishant you were right in your information.
Regards

PAVAN KADAM · 20th March 2009, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyjagga

Read in TIMES OF INDIA (Interview with Ratan Tata), Tata to Launch New Safari at End of 2009. So Nishant you were right in your information.
Regards

I went through that article today

not one more.

How many safari's should we see in the making, now what a 1.5 ltr 180 bhp safari or what ?

18th March 2009, 18:32	#136 (permalink)
Dragonov BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dublin, OH Posts: 154	@ SS - Now we know that we have a great poet here on TBHP __________________ Getz CRDi 08'/ Safari Dicor 3.0L 06'/ Ikon Flair 05'/ Vitara 2.7L V6 "We all have ability. The difference is how we use it."

18th March 2009, 18:49	#138 (permalink)
sanjayatarizona BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: "God's own Shaap" Posts: 333	[quote=gowda79;1219389]TML does not sell Lemons, but the Showroom people do it by selling the Demo vehicles which would be used in unimaginable ways. quote] All demos are lemons ??? __________________ Nothing is impossible when you don't know what you're talking about...

18th March 2009, 19:33	#140 (permalink)
adc BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 813 View My Garage	Mr SS-Traveller good lines but some absolutely sweeping questions Surely there're no objective answers even if all come up with suggestions And definitely even after 7 days you will have no conclusions All you will be getting just insinuations and perceptions Some even just being plain deceptions And then dont blame me if you end up with multiple indigestions and constipations But then I see from your profile - you are a doc And you know the faster way around a health block!! As for me and many, VTT 2.2 product awesome and sure rocks Must have seen all those xtreme travel posts and still no bad knocks No way Safari 2.2 ever left me peripatetic Nirvana instant on the VTT than being the ascetic Still if yourself crawl all the net With open mind and clear slate Its in fact quite so all the same Both do get almost equal blame and great name These are real eco-priced SUV every ready for the game Scorpio owners are always saying they are not that represented and thus so neglected Safari owners too telling they only get kicked & are not fairly evaluated or appreciated Will stop now, some work remaining, - But may be for you just right to go for the Innova and the way I say is no way demeaning. __________________ "Destinations and Interactions" Bullet Electra Safari LX 2.2 VTT -TMT [The Magnificient Tourer] Last edited by adc : 18th March 2009 at 19:39.

20th March 2009, 09:30	#149 (permalink)
jimmyjagga BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 52 View My Garage	New Safari at End of last Quarter 2009 Read in TIMES OF INDIA (Interview with Ratan Tata), Tata to Launch New Safari at End of 2009. So Nishant you were right in your information. Regards __________________ JJ *1998 Maruti 800 Dx* *2008 Maruti Swift (For wife)* *2008 Corolla Altis* *2009 RE 500cc Machismo AVL*

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phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ask me, no? Posts: 3,127	awesome stuff people - lovely poems. Let me add a different perspective. Till the 2.2, more scorps than safaris were sold. Now atleast visually that is not the case