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Old 3rd April 2009, 15:25   #16
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Any vehicle as bigger as safari with no roof mounted ac at back for lx version makes no sense of having ac , because people sitting at rear end feel suffocated
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Hi fellas!

I need an urgent decision to buy a SUV in Gauhati and I have to make a decision in the next 3 days! Until now, I have not TD any of it (and too busy to take one!), as my brother would be making the purchase there. He has choosen two options after striking out Xylo - Mahindar Scorpio SLE or Safari Dicor 2.2 LX?

Our requirements:
* Should be a sturdy car that will trek and defy all inhospitable roads in the NorthEast (Assam/Manipur/Mizoram)
* Should be diesel
* My parents would be the ones who would be using most of the time. (chauffeur driven), unless one of brother is in the town.
* Good Road presence
* Should be sturdy, less maintenance
* Good back seat ride and comfort
* budget within 8-9 lakhs
given the requirement, i would suggest you the safari. secondary reason is you already own a scorpio & you dont want a innova.

let us look at your requirements:
sturdiness: scorpio is sturdier, safari is prone to squeaks & rattles.
diesel: both are diesels.
chauffer driven: safari is the one to be chauffer driven.
road presence: subjective opinion, i feel scorpio has more presence.
less maintainence: scorpio has much lesser maintainece & issues, service is cheaper.
back seat ride & comfort: safari is much better than scorpio.
budget: i wont suggest you the safari LX, its bare basic.

so i feel you should stretch your budget for the safari EX. if you cant, i feel the scorpio SLE makes more sense.

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Old 4th April 2009, 21:22   #18
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hi,
i have a 2009 tata safari. if you have a driver and looking for suv then dont think, go for safari. its big, worth the feel and road presence. Also the middle row comfort is best in its class. i recently did a 2000 kms in 6 days drive through rajasthan with my family. I had absolutly fun and had no problems. i have driven 7000km in 2 months.

Again , test drive the both safari and scorpio. Follow your instincts !

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A Scorpio would tip the scales as far as ruggedness and reliability are concerned. I own one, and am very happy with it.
But since mid seat comfort is a priority, the Safari would be a better bet, since its seats are more comfortable than the Scorp's. Ride can be bumpy in both.
Take a TD of each to make up your mind, and as someone suggested, take your folks along so they can sample the mid seat comfort levels of the two.
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Considering your options, Scorpio is the way to go.
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Today is 3ed day so you must have taken the decision already , To those who feel Xylo is better due to roof mounted vents , Let me tell you vents alone don't do anything. Safari Ex has a separate coil for back seats and not just vents thats why it cools faster and Lx has vents for middle seats as well but are bottom mounted instead of top mounted like Xylo.
Safari AC is quite strong and even LX has good cooling capacity but definitely it takes about 10 minutes to cool the full vehicle initially in summers you need to ride in one before you judge.
Do not go by your experience based on ACs you normally see in sedans.

You need to test drive to differentiate between the power, Power surge of 2.2 VTT is addictive the low end torque and top power is unmatched in lower side of 17 lakhs on road.

Scorpio is a 2nd gear vehicle and Safari is 3ed gear , by this I mean Scorpio 2nd gear has huge range so it is good for surging for few seconds in stop and go city driving people migrating form petrol small cars love this surge between 20 - 60 - 20 in city. In Safari 3ed gear is almost endless so you can be in 3ed gear between 30 to 80 Kmph ( though shifting to 4th is advised at 60) this is different from most petrol small cars but it is just a matter of getting habituated.

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The new new scorpio looks like one of the cars from Transformers movie. Amazing road presence! And Alloys are a must for Scorpio to get that real butch look.

With safari, if you have a good driver you will feel like sitting in a volvo bus in the rear seat. its that good coupled with the excellent ride quality.

IMO, the new innova is an allrounder. With the captain seating in 2nd row the comfort levels reach executive class.

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less maintainence: scorpio has much lesser maintainece & issues, service is cheaper.
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Scorpio is with almost no niggles and a good SUV.
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Go for the Scorpio. Lesser of the two evils if reliability and overall maintenance costs are your primary concern.
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A Scorpio would tip the scales as far as ruggedness and reliability are concerned.
A look at these posts may be educating:

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1245391-post94.html

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1211808-post49.html

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1242456-post134.html (and following posts)

Both these vehicles are equally susceptible to issues, lets not pretend that one of these is bulletproof because none are discussed here. IMHO the issues discussed about the Scorpio are showstoppers and more serious than the niggles on finds on a Safari.

My 2 cents.

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Yes Steeroid, agree that both these vehicles have their own set of problems. Calling either of these bulletproof will be a joke!

And true, the Safari crowd we have here are more vocal and technically inclined to discuss the issue they face and what steps they took / want to take / etc. This is noticable in the number of users participating on the issues thread.

But, if you ask me about 'niggles', such that which will require few visits back to the A.S.S after delivery which is comparatively very less in the Scorpio. You can ask me how - well, am not saying this based on what is posted here but from the information gather from a large and only M&M dealer in my home town. My uncle is the work manager there - aka, complete access to the floor.
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from the information gather from a large and only M&M dealer in my home town. My uncle is the work manager there - aka, complete access to the floor.
On a lighter note I don't think work managers of TML also would ever feel they have lots of issues / niggles. Its only consumers who provide the data otherwise.
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steeroid, you are talking about woes dude, have a look at this:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...er-design.html (Tata safari rear brake release Valve(non ABS), disaster by design?)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ns-thread.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-breakage.html (Tata Safari suspension Arm Breakage)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...oes-kaput.html (Safari AC goes Kaput!)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...treatment.html (Advise on Safari Dicor 2.2 Rust Treatment)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-vtt-2-2l.html (Clutch Plate Problem Safari VTT 2.2L)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...some-more.html (Safari DICOR LX starting issue, and some more)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ors-powai.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ns-thread.html

of course, i still maintain, none of the cars are bullet proof. heck, i have had problems in my innova too, the legendary toyota! but the difference is in the number of issues. i think m_upreti & sideways are the only forum members who have had such issues with their scorpios.

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Dont start it again guys...we have issues everywhere...we are the land with the most issues!
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Dont start it again guys...we have issues everywhere...we are the land with the most issues!
hey redliner, this is not a 'start' of anything here, no debates intended! (dont get me an infraction)

infact, even i have suggested iTNERD to buy a safari.
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3 days long gone. guess the thread starter is sitting happily at his home, with his vehicle parked in the garage.

Thread starter, please let us know what you went in for.
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hey redliner, this is not a 'start' of anything here, no debates intended! (dont get me an infraction)

infact, even i have suggested iTNERD to buy a safari.
Not just you dude, but the whole gamut of guys up north of this post. I know you suggested the Safari and hence I have begun a poll on a different thread to pass judgement on you. How dare you! We need a new person to lead the Scorpio battalion!
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