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I've been looking for the ultimate off-roader on sale in India, as I intend to Raid-de-Himalayas. I need it to be machismo and solidly built and fear no terrain, and I absolutely don't care for posers as the (n)ever new Scorpios, Boleros & Safaris........

I have listed 2 of the best, but there's a tie!!

Is it the Gypsy King or the Force Gurkha ????? (anythn else?, pls suggest)
Both, as we know are true blue 4x4's which come with divorced T-Case's and Front/Rear Diff-lockers.

But which one is very reliable and cope intense abuse?

Which one of them? Pls suggest. Thanx.

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Hi all,
I've been looking for the ultimate off-roader on sale in India, as I intend to Raid-de-Himalayas. I need it to be machismo and solidly built and fear no terrain, and I absolutely care my f*** for posers as the (n)ever new Scorpios, Boleros & Safaris........

I have listed 2 of the best, but there's a tie!!

Is it the Gypsy King or the Force Gurkha ????? (anythn else?, pls suggest)
Both, as we know are true blue 4x4's which come with divorced T-Case's and Front/Rear Diff-lockers.

But which one is very reliable and cope intense abuse?

Which one of them? Pls suggest. Thanx.
there is only one answer to all your questions: GYPSY.
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Hey bro..
why not gurkha, can u explain deeper?
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I have listed 2 of the best, but there's a tie!!

Is it the Gypsy King or the Force Gurkha ????? (anythn else?, pls suggest)
Both, as we know are true blue 4x4's which come with divorced T-Case's and Front/Rear Diff-lockers.

He he. Never heard of a Gypsy coming with BOTH Front/Rear Diff-lockers.

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Hey bro..
why not gurkha, can u explain deeper?
Simple. Gypsy is available and can be bought. Gurkha is a myth.
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Hey bro..
why not gurkha, can u explain deeper?
1.you must have seen gypsys perform at raid-de-himalaya.
2.gypsy is cheaper than the gurkha
3.gypsy is a maruti so wide spread network, easily avaiable spares, cheaper to maintain.

only negative point: it is a petrol
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thnx nabeel, but i dont mind spending those extra bucks on gas! what really matters is reliability
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Gypsy all the way-because it is faster for raid de himalaya. Gurkha will finish the rally but would be the last one. If above average off roadability with good onroad manners and comfort is what you want then go for Gurkha.
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Hi all,
I've been looking for the ultimate off-roader on sale in India, as I intend to Raid-de-Himalayas. I need it to be machismo and solidly built and fear no terrain, and I absolutely care my f*** for posers as the (n)ever new Scorpios, Boleros & Safaris........

I have listed 2 of the best, but there's a tie!!

Is it the Gypsy King or the Force Gurkha ????? (anythn else?, pls suggest)
Both, as we know are true blue 4x4's which come with divorced T-Case's and Front/Rear Diff-lockers.

But which one is very reliable and cope intense abuse?

Which one of them? Pls suggest. Thanx.

Bobby888,
Which category do you intend to participate in, X-treme or Adventure??
If it is Adventure (TSD) category, then you really don't need any special vehicle. Even a Maruti 800 would do fine. All you need is some underbody protection.

In the X-treme category almost all competitors use the Maruti Gypsy, with a few exceptions in between.
The only time a sedan won the event was in 2000 with P.G. Abhilash in a Maruti Esteem, otherwise, the Gypsy rules the roost there.

My suggestion is to go in for a Gypsy as there are many specialists in the market who prepare Gypsies for rally use and performance parts are available off the shelf. No such vendor base for the Gurkha exists and it will be tough for a first timer to prepare it for competition use. The Gurkha is a robust vehicle but weighs substantially more than the Gyspy. i doubt if it will handle very well at competition pace. Add to it the fact that the Gurkha will cost substantially more than the Gypsy to buy and prepare. If you buy a brand new Gypsy for 5.3 Lakh and spend another 1.25 Lakh for preparing it for competition use you are looking at a total of 6.55 lakhs.
With a Gurkha it will be 8.75L(?) plus 1.25L (could be more as the front is IFS and competition spec components will be more expensive), meaning at least 10 Lakhs. Take your pick.

All said and done, I would love to see a Gurkha giving the Gypsies a run for their money in the Raid


P.S. The entries for the Raid De Himalaya are already open. Hurry up if you want to be in the fray this year.
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no diff lockers in Gypsy King??
Bro.... can u assure me that.. am sure, i read that elsewhere
i think you are getting confused between free wheeling hubs and diff locks.
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I think the Tata Xenon is also worth considering. With Rear Semi Floating Axles with LSD.

Powerful, stylish and should be able to take on the tough conditions.
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