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Old 22nd November 2009, 22:29   #16
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One more photo of the Scorpio (or TR20 or TR40, whatever they want to call it) with the tiptronic!!
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Old 23rd November 2009, 11:55   #17
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What are the things to know/check when doing a test drive on an AT car. Shortly i would be doing a series of TD and any inputs would be welcome.

@ananth, yes, i am also skeptical on Scorpio AT as it's just launched. We made the mistake of booking the v1 indica ( ) when it was launched and went through lots of hassles.

OT: I like this black interiors than the Wood finish offered in India.

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What are the things to know/check when doing a test drive on an AT car. Shortly i would be doing a series of TD and any inputs would be welcome.

@ananth, yes, i am also skeptical on Scorpio AT as it's just launched. We made the mistake of booking the v1 indica ( ) when it was launched and went through lots of hassles.

OT: I like this black interiors than the Wood finish offered in India.
Mohnish has a Scorpio AT, I guess some 6-7 months old, and his feedback to date has been quite good. I am sure you will not have a repeat of the Indica V1 experience.
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What are the things to know/check when doing a test drive on an AT car. Shortly i would be doing a series of TD and any inputs would be welcome.

@ananth, yes, i am also skeptical on Scorpio AT as it's just launched. We made the mistake of booking the v1 indica ( ) when it was launched and went through lots of hassles.

OT: I like this black interiors than the Wood finish offered in India.
Mahindra is known for testing their vehicles well before they are launched.

See some testing done here by vivekji and also Mohnish as a user.

Also, this vehicle is more than a year old now (launched on 23rd Sept), there was one issue which they have cleared up in refresh model (check the thread of Mohnish for the same)
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(Mahindra is known for testing their vehicles well before they are launched)

@tanwaramit: That's a real good news considering the cost of the vehicle.

@ananth: i am going thru Mohnish's thread and its' very convincing.

btw, I saw an AT in chennai road and guess where they have put the automatic sticker; in the windshield; maybe they wanted it to look prominent. lol.
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Keep away from the imports. Scorpio-AT is the best bet and more reliable with the service.
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OT: I like this black interiors than the Wood finish offered in India.
you will get black interiors if you select java brown, turf green or black as your exterior car colour.
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Old 23rd November 2009, 16:53   #23
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btw, I saw an AT in chennai road and guess where they have put the automatic sticker; in the windshield; maybe they wanted it to look prominent. lol.
Are you sure ? I think its a chrome plating written below VLX. on the rear door and not on windshield.
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Yes Tanwar, i am very sure. it was like staring at your face. This was a sticker, maybe they wanted to cover both ends.
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ananth I too am in the same boat and this is my final analysis:

1) Scorpio AT - Great engine/AT - Scary ride and Price so out.
2) Pajero/Prado etc are all completely unrefined (driveline/and in cabin noise - test drove all recently in my quest to buy)and close to scorpio on scary ride quotiant. Many rollovers/crashes have happened in India to support this so out.
3) Found Fortuner to be very refined/great ride but no AT yet and may be very pricy if and when launched.
4) Innova available as AT in other markets and may be/could be launched in India as things get crowded - i would jump at it as my current Innova mannual is great.


So in interim decided to go in for a sedan with diesel & auto
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4) Innova available as AT in other markets and may be/could be launched in India as things get crowded - i would jump at it as my current Innova mannual is great.

So in interim decided to go in for a sedan with diesel & auto
Innova AT would be my first choice as well if available. I do not know why they are not launching it here.

Today i discussed with wifey about the scorpio and she cut a very sorry face at me. .

What are the Sedan Diesel AT options available:
1. Verna
2. Cruze

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If you have the money and dont want 4WD, the Innova AT is a blind bet.
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ananth I too am in the same boat and this is my final analysis:

1) Scorpio AT - Great engine/AT - Scary ride and Price so out.
Not sure I understand about the price part above.

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Innova AT would be my first choice as well if available. I do not know why they are not launching it here.

Today i discussed with wifey about the scorpio and she cut a very sorry face at me.
Take her for a test drive in AT scorpio and then see what she says about it.

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What are the Sedan Diesel AT options available:
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Not sure if Verna diesel is available in AT and neither is Cruze but I read on the Cruze thread that they would be launching it in Jan. Sonata Transform is another option if it is in your budget.


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If you have the money and dont want 4WD, the Innova AT is a blind bet.
In indeed would be but it is not available in Indian market so not an option for now.
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Take her for a test drive in AT scorpio and then see what she says about it.
Yup, a test drive will be sufficient to take a test if this is good for you and her.
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Not sure if Verna diesel is available in AT and neither is Cruze but I read on the Cruze thread that they would be launching it in Jan. Sonata Transform is another option if it is in your budget.
Verna is indeed available as an AT (checkout a ownership review of the same here, bluish color, if I remember correctly), but again, its a low GC sedan, and cannot match the terrains which Scorpio can handle.

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In indeed would be but it is not available in Indian market so not an option for now.
Sadly, people have even explored the option of fitting AT box (my importing themselves from Thailand) here, but even that is not working. So the waiting list is huge, wonder why Toyota is so shy to launch AT Innova and Fortuner.

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If you have the money and dont want 4WD, the Innova AT is a blind bet.
No doubt about it, good interiors, amazing comfort and dont intend to tread the path where 4WD can give you the confidence then Innova AT is good, but even that is not available to us. We only have Innova Manual.

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What are the Sedan Diesel AT options available:
1. Verna
2. Cruze
Cruze will be coming out with AT box soon, but how soon, is not sure, may be somtime around March.

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2) Pajero/Prado etc are all completely unrefined (driveline/and in cabin noise - test drove all recently in my quest to buy)and close to scorpio on scary ride quotiant. Many rollovers/crashes have happened in India to support this so out.
Remember Scorpio is one of the toughest on the roads. it takes hit comfortably and now with Airbags the game has moved upwards. I have seen some accidents where Corolla and Qualis had their bonnet and boot crashed, with not even paint damage to scorpio.
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How about an outlander. Resale again being Mitsubishi-HM has gone for a toss. Recently, saw a 10 months old car with 4k on the clock in prestine condition go for 14lac. Damn! missed a great deal.

So in 2010, you can get a 2008 model between 10 to 12 lac. Just that its hard to find one.

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