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Old 18th April 2010, 10:58   #1
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Its time to say good bye to our reliable workhorse after 1.67L kms and 9 years
So Selling our Bolero GLX XD3P and Buying a New one.
it will be driven by dad and he has been happy with bolero,and doesnot want a Safari or Scorpio
Now fight begins at home whether its going to be DI-Turbo or a Crde

He aint a Speedfreak.

It will be used within City with Occasional Highway runs and may be for a trip to Leh later this year.

Mileage is not much of a concern.

Unfortunately Mahindra dealership owner is a family friend and he is pushing for a DI turbo,and i am trying my best for Crde.

According to him Crde sales are very less,it gives less mileage has poor resale.
I cant think of any pluses in Crde other than it is refined and fast.

Now a Few queries not specific to Crde or DI

1)Our XD3P has always been plagued with overheating problems with Ac
any such issues with DI or Crde?

2)What brand tyres does a new bolero come with?

3)What about the OEM Head unit,which brand,and is it USB\SD card compatible?

4)Do we have a option of purchasing\Ordering a DI Turbo SLX 4x4?

5)Are DI Turbo and Crde engines, BSIV Compliant?

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Old 19th April 2010, 09:31   #2
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Bolero DI turbo is a workhorse and will return very good fuel efficiency. Bolero VLX CDre is BS 4 compliant and SLX DI isnt. Fuel efficiency of a CRde engine isnt bad either and at least is better than your outgoing XD3p engined Bolero.

DI turbo 4x4 is available only on base variant. No p/s and no a/c. I would say avoid it if you want to upgrade. 4wd is available again only with XD3pu engine which is a BS II engine.

Please look at Bolero VLX CRde, its a different animal all together and more suitable for higway cruising. It is available in 2wd only for NOW!

If you can stand the looks of Xylo, i would recommend you a Xylo E8 (top variant) over Bolero in you are looking for 2wd vehicle.

Go for a max upgrade of 235/ 70 R 15.
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Bolero DI turbo is a workhorse and will return very good fuel efficiency. Bolero VLX CDre is BS 4 compliant and SLX DI isnt. Fuel efficiency of a CRde engine isnt bad either and at least is better than your outgoing XD3p engined Bolero.

DI turbo 4x4 is available only on base variant. No p/s and no a/c. I would say avoid it if you want to upgrade. 4wd is available again only with XD3pu engine which is a BS II engine.

Please look at Bolero VLX CRde, its a different animal all together and more suitable for higway cruising. It is available in 2wd only for NOW!

If you can stand the looks of Xylo, i would recommend you a Xylo E8 (top variant) over Bolero in you are looking for 2wd vehicle.

Go for a max upgrade of 235/ 70 R 15.
According to official website Crde is still BSIII
and recently prices of bolero were increased by 26,100 to comply to BSIV norms,but thats about it,nothing else mentioned as to what changes were made.

Have to choose between SLX and VLX,will take a long test drive of both models and then choose.

Mahindra Dealership guys are pushing DI turbo badly.
may be i can try and squeeze some discounts on VLX.
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Have to choose between SLX and VLX,will take a long test drive of both models and then choose.

Mahindra Dealership guys are pushing DI turbo badly.
may be i can try and squeeze some discounts on VLX.
Thats because they are clearing the stock and making way to Bolero VLX Crde which is BS iv compliant. BSIII Di turbo will continue to sell every where except in 13 cities.

Push for discounts on Bolero vlx Crde. How bad is your 4wd requirement?
Xylo is a overall a better and comfortable MUV than a Bolero if you can stand looks.
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Thats because they are clearing the stock and making way to Bolero VLX Crde which is BS iv compliant. BSIII Di turbo will continue to sell every where except in 13 cities.

Push for discounts on Bolero vlx Crde. How bad is your 4wd requirement?
Xylo is a overall a better and comfortable MUV than a Bolero if you can stand looks.
i think DI turbo too has been made BSIV compliant as its price too has been raised by 26K.
And even DI turbo isnt available as of now.
We dont need a people mover.
This will be used by Dad and it will be driven solo 95% of the times.
He Cant digest Safari\Scorpio,forget Xylo or innova.

i am still trying to find out as to what changes have been made to newer BSIV models but no luck.

4WD is only my requirement,but i think il have to skip it this time,as its not even an option on SLX.
And VLX 4x4 is no where in sight for now
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i think DI turbo too has been made BSIV compliant as its price too has been raised by 26K.
Can anyone please share info about BSIV. I mean no where on net it says any of the model for BSIV. Both VLX & SLX are BSIII only. I checked with dealer (Sireesh Auto) they too gave the same info. No updates on new bolero / engine updates.

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@ Akshay: Going by our post, I would understand that whichever variant you buy will be kept for a long time. Taking a long ownership period, I would straight away suggest going for the better technology.

As already stated by Vinod, SLX is a workhorse and the VLX is sleath. There are lot of small things that are different in both of them and the only commonality is the body and name.

Answers to your question wrt CRDe

1)Our XD3P has always been plagued with overheating problems with Ac
any such issues with DI or Crde?
I haven't heard any overheating issues either in the NEFCRDe or in MDI3200TC engine

2)What brand tyres does a new bolero come with?
Depending upon your luck anything between Bridgestones, Apollo, Good Year Wranglers or CEAT.

3)What about the OEM Head unit,which brand,and is it USB\SD card compatible?
Its Kenwood and is horrible. Doesn't come with USB/SD Card reader. That was the first thing I changed.
4)Do we have a option of purchasing\Ordering a DI Turbo SLX 4x4?

As already stated its only available with a XD3PU engine which might not be available for registratio in C'garh

5)Are DI Turbo and Crde engines, BSIV Compliant?

I know for sure CRDe is BSIV compliant as M&M has tweaked the ECM and the EGR settings.

I suggest you take a TD back to back of both the cars and you'll immediately know the difference. Overtaking on the highway will never be the same again

P.S: Why not wait for the Thar and buy that ?
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We have had a Gypsy Before we bought this Bolero,so Thar is out of the question,as Dad isnt interested in hardcore offroading.
It will be used for Commuting to his workplace
and for touring in hills.
Need a bit of creature comforts too,so thar is out of the question.
He just saw Crde upclose yesterday,and it changed his mind
Now i am sure after Td'ing ,he is gonna fall for Crde.

But problem is No Vehicle is available for TD.

Btw do mahindra dealers have Trade in option?
where you can drive in with your old vehicle and drive out a brand new one?
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According to official website Crde is still BSIII
and recently prices of bolero were increased by 26,100 to comply to BSIV norms,but thats about it,nothing else mentioned as to what changes were made.
CRDE and MDI TC are still BSIII, 26100 Rs was hiked for which model of bolero?

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Thats because they are clearing the stock and making way to Bolero VLX Crde which is BS iv compliant.
AFAIK, BS-IV VLX is not out yet.

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i think DI turbo too has been made BSIV compliant as its price too has been raised by 26K.
NO, it is still BSIII

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Can anyone please share info about BSIV. I mean no where on net it says any of the model for BSIV. Both VLX & SLX are BSIII only. I checked with dealer (Sireesh Auto) they too gave the same info. No updates on new bolero / engine updates.
Correct, as of now all are BS-III compliant, for those intending on VLX BS-IV please wait for some time. Will SLX come in BS-IV? Ahem..

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CRDE and MDI TC are still BSIII, 26100 Rs was hiked for which model of bolero?



AFAIK, BS-IV VLX is not out yet.



NO, it is still BSIII


Correct, as of now all are BS-III compliant, for those intending on VLX BS-IV please wait for some time. Will SLX come in BS-IV? Ahem..

Spike

P.S. Akshay PM me if you need any info.
Not sure about price hike,as i just read it over internet.
Current prices for SLX and VLX here are 6.08L and 6.74L ex showroom respectively.
Waiting period of 45 days and models for display or TD
so all are BSIII till now.
anyways it doesnot matter much as emmision norms have not been implimented here.
@Spike any idea as to what changes can be expected in BSiV VLX?
will there be any bump in power?
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@Spike any idea as to what changes can be expected in BSiV VLX?
will there be any bump in power?
No changes in trim level, only engine will be BS-IV compliant. I have sent you a PM.

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P.S: Why not wait for the Thar and buy that ?
Is there any confirmed time frame in which Thar will be launched? Had checked M&M at auto expo thread and didnt see any launch date as such.
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We have almost decided that its going to be a VLX Crde
that is without a TD.
when it comes is another story,it can be as soon as next week,or may be later.

i just hope that those storm stickers are easily removable-any insights in this,has anyone tried removing them?
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wow, thats good news akshay, you didn't go for any test drive at Goyal motors? When is the Storm forecasted?

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oye bhai,

That is good news

I fully agree that VLX is the way to go. Congrats! (as and when u get it!!)
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