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Old 15th July 2014, 05:09   #151
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Hey, could be because of altitude too. To give you a perspective, the turbokick @ a particular rpm won't be same at sea level Mumbai to at a height at Mahabaleshwar. See if the lag still remains when you get down on the altitude. It mostly wont.
If I am not wrong the altitude kicks in when you are going above 9K feets above sea level. Ooty is about 6K. Besides my airfilters were replaced recently before the trip to Ooty. So, I am ruling out lack of air.
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Guys are there any Scorpio Clutch failures reported in the 2014 facelift version of the Scorpio ? If i remember correctly there was a transmission change in the face-lift with the Scorpio getting the same gearbox as the Xylo, which does not have this issue.
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Guys are there any Scorpio Clutch failures reported in the 2014 facelift version of the Scorpio ? If i remember correctly there was a transmission change in the face-lift with the Scorpio getting the same gearbox as the Xylo, which does not have this issue.
The S10 variant has a different clutch than the lower variants or the older Mhawks. The redesigned clutch has a more robust slave cylinder, but the release bearing is more prone to failure (becomes significantly noisy).

I am not aware that the 2014 facelift had the gearbox from the Xylo, but would like someone to confirm for certain.
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Guys are there any Scorpio Clutch failures reported in the 2014 facelift version of the Scorpio ? If i remember correctly there was a transmission change in the face-lift with the Scorpio getting the same gearbox as the Xylo, which does not have this issue.
A friend's 2016 Scorpio 4wd had a clutch failure early this month. The pedal sank down on a highway! Mahindra got it fixed in warranty and had it dropped back in Delhi. Interestingly the car had a clutch replacement few months back.
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A friend's 2016 Scorpio 4wd had a clutch failure early this month. The pedal sank down on a highway! Mahindra got it fixed in warranty and had it dropped back in Delhi. Interestingly the car had a clutch replacement few months back.
Which variant was this? S4+ or S10?
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Which variant was this? S4+ or S10?
This was S4+ 4wd variant.
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This was S4+ 4wd variant.
Which means it has the same slave cylinder design as the Mhawk 2008-2014 Refresh version. These had been always prone to leaking. OTOH the S10's clutch doesn't have leakage reports, but then complaints of release bearing failure and resultant noise are quite frequent.

Incidentally, the two types are swappable.

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How can I check what type of slave cylinder is being used in the TUV? Asking this as in the recent past I have seen a few folks post about clutch issues and failure - want to check if the cylinder used is the same faulty one used in the Scorpio.

Also wanted to understand the replacement schedule most folks follow for brake & clutch fluid. Manual recommends Dot 4 @ 40K kms or 2 years, which ever is earlier. Any other tips to minimize risk of slave failure?
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When I took delivery of my TUV and took it to World of Service (my friendly FNG) to ask about the progress of work on my Palio, one of their senior mechanics (who spent many years in Mahindra ASC) put the TUV on the lift and looked at it in detail, since he had left Mahindra in early 2015. His only comment was: "watch out for the clutch, especially the release bearing, which is the same as the problematic one in the Scorpio 2008-14 mHawk, the one inside the gear box (he meant inside the bell housing). This is prone to premature failure! Baaki sab theek hai, boss!"

In the light of what is being discussed in this thread, I find his comment worth remembering now!

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I am not aware that the 2014 facelift had the gearbox from the Xylo, but would like someone to confirm for certain.
Quoting team-bhp offical review of the 2014 facelift-" The front & rear axles are new, as are some suspension bits, while the gearbox is lifted from the updated Xylo."

Quoting auto car review of the 2014 facelift-" Also carried over are ABS-equipped brakes, but M&M has now put in its new 5MT320 five-speed manual transmission from the updated Xylo."


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A friend's 2016 Scorpio 4wd had a clutch failure early this month. The pedal sank down on a highway! Mahindra got it fixed in warranty and had it dropped back in Delhi. Interestingly the car had a clutch replacement few months back.
May this was due to a blotched up clutch replacement ?
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