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Old 24th May 2011, 15:24   #16
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Try to Rev the car fully when the car is at Standstill & then check the maximum Rpm she clocks in her Tachometer. If even then she doesn't clocks the Rpm beyond 2000 then the trouble seems to be with the Faulty Throttle positioning Sensor of its Potentiometer(located near the accelerator Pedal). One of my friend have got the same problem with his i20 Asta.
Else If it shows the trouble in gears or while moving then the culprit seems to be its ECU.
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one of the following causes:

- Engine going in limp mode. Today's ECUs restrict the engine rpm if they detect a serious problem that could be damaging to the engine. Your performance drops after driving for some kms, right?

This would mean there is some other serious problem with the engine causing the ECU to try and save it form serious damage, is it not? A minor problem should not result in ECU limping.

Correct me if I am wrong.

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Shaunak, sorry to hear about your plight. Please use the email addresses provided above, and also contact Ford via their website & facebook page.

BTW, it could be any one of the following causes:

- Faulty air-con compressor : On another thread, a BHPian reported that his OHC suffered from the same problem. It was a seized air-con compressor. Are you facing any cooling issues?
Would'nt a seized compressor not cause a more permanent sort of issue, rather than an intermittent one. Also, as he has already lived with his car for 10months, I doubt this is the cause of the problem
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We are into 2nd page and we still don't know whether it is diesel or petrol Figo. Shouldn't owners of bi-fuel cars mention the fuel type, too?
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I was not able to accelerate beyond 20 kmph and rpm was restricted to 2000.
Please clarify
RPM restricted to 2000 even in neutral?
Max speed=20 in 1st, 2nd as well as 3rd gear?

Can be ecu malfunction. (Try a different ECU. Not always there is a problem with software)
Can be some failed axillary like brake booster, compressor, some sensor malfunctioning. However in such cases it can be easily diagnosed using standard diagnostic tools. Not sure why ford is not able to fix it!
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Very sorry to hear.

I heard yesterday, that Figo has lot of complaints (minor, major like this, irritating noises, engine sudden stalling, etc). Very unfortunate is that Ford India is not able to fix some common issues permanently which reoccurs in all cars.

Due to cost cutting, the quality of critical components are not upto the standard as it should be and the rate of failures seems to be generally more.

Most unfortunate thing here is the inefficiency of Ford to diagnose and solve it.
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Thanks a lot to everyone for replying to this concern! Mine is a Petrol version - EXI model.
And I think most of you guys are right. This is what happens in detail:

The exclamation mark glows up on the dashboard, which manual says, is for engine malfunctioning. and it happens mostly when the car is running. There is no pattern for the engine running. It has happened when the car is running for a long time. it has happened when the car was idle for 10-12 hours and I started the engine and drove for few kilometers. it has happened in the night time as well as in the day time. So I really dont see a pattern. whatevev gear I am in, and doesnt matter how much I try to accelerate rpm wont go beyond 2000. in the idle state also it will be around 1500. car will make noise as well and lot of heat will be generated from the engine. it will blow out lot of hot air from the back as well.

CRtorquefan is absolutely correct and this is the problem they detected when it happened last time - Throttle positioning Sensor was not able to identify the idle position. So the technician repositioned it and then car was normal. But he said the problem can come up again. before this, some other sesor had issues.

Major repair that Ford did for three times:
1. When I gave it to Metro Ford Bangalore in August 2010, they changed the complete wiring and reprogrammed the car as well.
2. second time they changed the inlet manifold.
3. this time they have changes the connecting cable.

car is still with the dealership and they are saying, we have take the test drive for 200 km this time with laptop connected and software running. the problem has not come. so the car is perfectly okay. please come and take the delivery. They are assuring that the problem wont come again. But This time I am saying, that I dont want assurance on the phone or emails, give me an affidavit saying that if the same problem appears again, they will change the engine. Is that not a fair demand??
I would like to hear from you guys.

thanks ARJAB for giving me the email ids. I will surely write mails to these ids as well.

dhanushs : yes they have checked these parameters. they always say that they have chekced everything as per the ford guidelines. and its ford techinicans who decide which part to change and not the dealership as the car is under warranty.
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Thanks a lot to everyone for replying to this concern!

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Throttle positioning Sensor was not able to identify the idle position. So the technician repositioned it and then car was normal. But he said the problem can come up again. before this, some other sesor had issues.

Major repair that Ford did for three times:
1. When I gave it to Metro Ford Bangalore in August 2010, they changed the complete wiring and reprogrammed the car as well.
2. second time they changed the inlet manifold.
3. this time they have changes the connecting cable.

car is still with the dealership and they are saying, we have take the test drive for 200 km this time with laptop connected and software running. the problem has not come. so the car is perfectly okay. please come and take the delivery. They are assuring that the problem wont come again. But This time I am saying, that I dont want assurance on the phone or emails, give me an affidavit saying that if the same problem appears again, they will change the engine. Is that not a fair demand??
I would like to hear from you guys.

thanks ARJAB for giving me the email ids. I will surely write mails to these ids as well.

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A few questions (I bought a Figo last month, so I get jittery whenever somebody reports this kind of stuff):
  1. Did you ever have to call Ford directly so far?
  2. How many visits and how much effort on every visit did it take to get them to diagnose the problem - I mean is it like you had stand on their head and scream at them to get moving or is it like you went there and they started diagnosing on your word (though kept the car for several days - inconveniencing you nevertheless)
  3. Any other problems?
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Very sorry to hear.

I heard yesterday, that Figo has lot of complaints (minor, major like this, irritating noises, engine sudden stalling, etc). Very unfortunate is that Ford India is not able to fix some common issues permanently which reoccurs in all cars.

Due to cost cutting, the quality of critical components are not upto the standard as it should be and the rate of failures seems to be generally more.

Most unfortunate thing here is the inefficiency of Ford to diagnose and solve it.
Mods please move this else where if found off topic, but yes this makes me wonder why people assume that cost cutting is only done with accessories or plastics where as the real cost cutting may be happening at the more important critical expensive components which eventually leads to lower reliability and durability. This is made me reject the Figo inspite of the brilliant Ford handling, as I found too much cost cutting over an equivalent Fiesta, which has generally been free from niggles which are otherwise troubling the Figo, the suspension set up being the most obvious one. Similarly Chevy Sparks have been a lot more troublesome compared to earlier Matiz. Hope Toyota has not made the same mistake with the Etios where again a lot of cost cutting is seen.

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Any update on this issue, shaunakv55.
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This is a fairly old thread but I did some research and this is what I found: the problem can be anything of these:

Crankshaft/Camshaft sensor problem:
Failed injector or loosing it's calibration and needs re-coded
Pressure sensor on fuel pump
Fuel filter and fuel gauge sender unit
EGR valve needs replacing
Fuel pump disintegrating or being blocked which in turn could be affecting the injectors
Fuel pipes being a bit knackered having holes in it and drew air into it

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Shaunak, sorry to hear about your plight. Please use the email addresses provided above, and also contact Ford via their website & facebook page.

BTW, it could be any one of the following causes:

- Engine going in limp mode. Today's ECUs restrict the engine rpm if they detect a serious problem that could be damaging to the engine. Your performance drops after driving for some kms, right?

- Faulty ECU

- Faulty air-con compressor : On another thread, a BHPian reported that his OHC suffered from the same problem. It was a seized air-con compressor. Are you facing any cooling issues?
Also there is one issue specific to ford petrol cars, if you put a diesel ford battery say of figo tdci into a petrol car say figo 1.2, such issue may occur. Beware - ford petrol battery and ford diesel battery have the same serial no. and are exactly identical except for a flimsy Fluorescent sticker on the diesel battery which has the letter D written on it. The sticker size is half inch by half inch and is put on the side of the battery. Try and get a replacement battery from the workshop and check it while driving.
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Michael Boneham, Ford's India Country Head: mboneham@ford.com
and
Nigel Wark: Ford India's Sales & Marketing Head
nwark@ford.com

suggest you write to them and keeping out fingers crossed , they should respond.

Take care and drive safe !
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Shaunak, sorry to hear about your plight. Please use the email addresses provided above, and also contact Ford via their website & facebook page.
Bumping this to let others know that Mr. Boneham's e-mail id isn't active. Mr. Wark's works fine I think as Google didn't throw any errors while sending him an e-mail id.

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Car Make:Polo Highline Petrol (1.2) 2013
Total Km:6300

This morning I was traversing through one of Bangalore's famous traffic jams.The car was working absolutely fine before entering the Jam and I had already reached 30-40 kmph once(That was the max speed i remember hitting as I face 3-4 jams everyday on my commute of 6 kms ).I maintained a steady speed of 5-10 kmph in the jam and the moment I exited the Jammed section I tried accelerating but the engine won't budge beyond 10 in 2nd and 20 in 3rd gear,the revving continued while the rpm's started hitting 3000 -4000rpm and I decided not to press too hard on the gas pedal.
I have somehow managed to then move it the last 200 metres in 1st gear on 10 kmph max speed and park it in the basement of my office(Ecospace),another blunder I guess.Now its been more than an hour and I thought maybe the engine had overheated and hence the issue ,but upon checking the engine is still hot and the speed is still flooring out at 10 kmph.The service is typical Volkswagen style and the Service centre guy gives no clue on what could be wrong and keeps harping bring it here and we will see.
I am pretty scared as everytime I give it for service even for dents and scratches bills are no less than scores of thousands.So I need a feeler on what could be the issue here.Please help me out and suggest what should I do now?Since it is in the basement due to my foolishness,what if a non flatbed tow takes it out by the hook or front suspension,can that damage the car?I am new to this hence asking..Thanks in advance.
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Since it is in the basement due to my foolishness,what if a non flatbed tow takes it out by the hook or front suspension,can that damage the car?I am new to this hence asking..Thanks in advance.
As for pulling it out of the basement, it can be done by towing it out with help of another vehicle. The hook in the front of the car is provided for this purpose and will do no damage. Do not tow by hooking to any other part of the car.

As for the actual issue, it sounds like the clutch wearing out.
Experts can comment more.
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