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Old 5th May 2011, 09:06   #2176
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OK, bearing was loose or belt? What did the SA say regarding the Engine check lamp glowing?

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The SA mentioned it is the bearing that was loose. He also mentioned that the 'Engine Check' LED was glowing due to that.(Note : It is Not the Engine Malfunction LED)

To sum it up, he said it should work fine for a few more months (no specific time mentioned) and it will not affect the engine in any way. He said, if it does go bad, Battery not charging, Head lights and AC might not work, will be the symptoms.
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Old 5th May 2011, 12:03   #2177
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The SA mentioned it is the bearing that was loose. He also mentioned that the 'Engine Check' LED was glowing due to that.(Note : It is Not the Engine Malfunction LED)

To sum it up, he said it should work fine for a few more months (no specific time mentioned) and it will not affect the engine in any way. He said, if it does go bad, Battery not charging, Head lights and AC might not work, will be the symptoms.
I find it strange the bearing is loose. It either works or is defunct. What SA is implying is for you to wait till the alternator packs up. If your vehicle is in warranty I would get the Alternator changed. If not, it would be cheaper to get the bearing (and may be the plate) changed and not wait for the alternator to pack up. With modern engines using electronics the engine would just stop if the battery is discharged, and leave you high and dry (sadly today we cannot even push start the vehicles).
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I find it strange the bearing is loose. It either works or is defunct. What SA is implying is for you to wait till the alternator packs up. If your vehicle is in warranty I would get the Alternator changed. If not, it would be cheaper to get the bearing (and may be the plate) changed and not wait for the alternator to pack up. With modern engines using electronics the engine would just stop if the battery is discharged, and leave you high and dry (sadly today we cannot even push start the vehicles).
Unfortunately, I dont have an extended warranty. However, the clicking noise does not exist anymore. So, I'm hoping its really fixed.

I spoke to one of their managers now and he said, if it is a genuine failure, they can consider giving some kind of discount. Not sure if its a common issue with this model, because they seemed to have not come across this problem (or atleas the SA is not aware of it). I'm planning to get it checked from a local mechanic today.

The cost of both TVS & Bosch Alternator's are 18K.

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I gave my Non CRDE scorpio for Service yesterday.

I inquired about opening the injectors and sending them for cleaning to Mico-Bosch. The Service Advisor told me that they have never got that done for a NON-CRDE Scorpio. They have got that done for a CRDE Scorpio a couple of times.
So I settled for the Flushing and Decarbonizing routine, as I saw it made a difference to HVK's Scorpio.

One very strange thing. I had replaced the main fan belt at 60,000 kms , and even then it didnt have a single crack. Now at 80,000 we noticed there are cracks on the Main belt. The original Belt didn't deteriorate in 60,000 kms and the replacement one is getting cracks in 20,000. Both are made in France Roflan or something. Now I have told them to change it again, an additional expense of around 1600.

I have told them to replace all Rubber Pipes and hoses for fuel, and Cooling system. About the turbo pipe they told me that they need to just change the bottom hose.

About the clutch, I asked them what is the life, now that my Scorpio has done 80,000. The told me they have seen the clutch last till even 1.4-1.5 lac kms. So I do not need to get the clutch done now, they will check the cylinders.

Lets see what all they do.

I will keep you all updated.

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Old 5th May 2011, 15:41   #2180
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Kaushik, the process of draining out water is pretty simple.

1. Loosen the Water in fuel sensor at the bottom portion of the fuel filter.
2. Drain the water accumulated (if any) from this region.
3. Tighten fully back to its earlier position.
4. Procedure complete.

Attaching a pic for more clarity.


If still the light comes on, take her to the service center. Hope this helps.

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Is this module is same as the one next tom the battery compartment? This module has a pump kind of thing on Top (sorry but I'm still not very aware of the technical parts of the Scorpio, still learning). I tried to find a screw at the bottom to loosen it but unable to find it. Will give it a try again today. But please let me know if I am looking at the right place?
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Old 6th May 2011, 09:29   #2181
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^^^@kaushik_s, please use a camera (mobile camera will do) to help others see what you are looking at, a picture will help immensely. Non CRDe Scorpio has a two stage filter I think and it will certainly look different from the picture provided by SPIKE
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In my friends Scropio, Turbo got busted. It is in the dealer "India Garage" Bangalore from 1 month, they are saying its out of stock. And he has contacted everyone including General manager. Their explanation is the vendor who used to manufacture turbo has shut shop and they are in process of hiring new vendor to manufacturer and certify the vendor, until then we have to wait.

Never thought Mahindra being such a big company in India don't have major spares. Do any of you guys have information of this Turbo non-availability? And any idea whom should we escalate it further?
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^^ Model name, year? Please post photos of Turbocharger if possible.

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In my friends Scropio, Turbo got busted. It is in the dealer "India Garage" Bangalore from 1 month, they are saying its out of stock. And he has contacted everyone including General manager. Their explanation is the vendor who used to manufacture turbo has shut shop and they are in process of hiring new vendor to manufacturer and certify the vendor, until then we have to wait.
My local Bosch service centre says he has equipment to overhaul/ repair turbo systems - is it possible to do that? And is it necessary? What are the warning signs that the turbo system is giving up?
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My local Bosch service centre says he has equipment to overhaul/ repair turbo systems - is it possible to do that? And is it necessary? What are the warning signs that the turbo system is giving up?
The turbo in my 2.6 crde went kaput 2 years back.Tvs which supplies this turbo has a service point in chennai.Understand that 2.2 M hawk has a VGT .Remember being told that this turbo cannot be repaired at these s.points.
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This is 2005 TC1 Scorpio.

comfortablynumb , has give VP Customer service email of Mahindra, i have told my friend to mail him. Hope something comes out soon.

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My local Bosch service centre says he has equipment to overhaul/ repair turbo systems - is it possible to do that? And is it necessary? What are the warning signs that the turbo system is giving up?
NO, if required only the manufacturer (TEL here) is authorized to service the Turbocharger. Symptoms include- Excessive Turbo whine at high RPMs, Oil leaks, Excessive oil consumption. Whether the Turbo internals are damaged or OK can be verified only after opening it up.

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This is 2005 TC1 Scorpio.
The turbocharger I presume is K04 type and the manufacturer is Turbo Energy Limited (TEL).

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PS- I can post the analysis usually done on a turbo if required, just let me know.

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Don't know if this has been discussed previously, so here goes. I have been told by a few people that the electronic transfer switch in 4X4 is prone to water failure from the top (inside cabin) as well as from outside cabin. The only remedy it seems is to water proof it. Any idea how its done?

Also been hearing about auto locking hubs developing a mind of their own. Any idea how to avoid for that matter detect the fault. Also please recommend how to increase the life of the CV joints.
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Don't know if this has been discussed previously, so here goes. I have been told by a few people that the electronic transfer switch in 4X4 is prone to water failure from the top (inside cabin) as well as from outside cabin. The only remedy it seems is to water proof it. Any idea how its done?

Also been hearing about auto locking hubs developing a mind of their own. Any idea how to avoid for that matter detect the fault. Also please recommend how to increase the life of the CV joints.
1. Coat all the underbody electricals with a sealant. Ideal is the one used to paste the windshield in current cars. A tube of about 1 liter is 300-400. You can also use the sealant to plug small holes leaking air into the cabin, especially from the engine compartment to the cabin (around wires/pipes etc)

2. To increase life of the CV joints inspect the rubber boot regularly. After crossing water or mud, even on normal rain, jack up the car and clean the debris and inspect the rubber. As long as the rubber if crack free and supple it will protect. If it gets hard it will crack and let dust/mud in which will wear the joint out, so it is good idea to change it every 2 to 3 years.

3. The same holds for the propeller shaft joints. As these are not protected regular cleaning and greasing is the only remedy.
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Also been hearing about auto locking hubs developing a mind of their own. Any idea how to avoid for that matter detect the fault. Also please recommend how to increase the life of the CV joints.
Please engage 4WD mode once - twice every month, move around a bit (forward / reverse) in this mode, preferably in loose surface.

Also read 4WD operating instructions in the owners manual once. (Just kidding!)

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