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Old 19th April 2009, 23:04   #226
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I have the same problem. The clutch comes up slowly and the final pop up is accompanied by a noise "thuck".

A.S.S. says it is normal. I tried with 2-3 Scorps which were there for service, more or less similar issue. .

Another one with my Scorp, after dirving for some time the gear lever is getting unscrewed from the base, I have to keep a tab and tighten it up every now and then, lest it come in my hands while I am trying to change.

Will have it clecked in the second service on Tuesday. The issue has come up after the A.S.S. did up the packing around the gear lever as it was viberating too much and heating up.


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My clutch after being depressed comes back slowly and I feel just before coming fully it takes a break. Is it what you are talking about?
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again quite strange!
i find the insulation in terms of engine noise, road noise & tyre noise to be better than both the innova & safari.
I think only to your ears other may differ on this so no point in these kind of comparisons,
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I have the same problem. The clutch comes up slowly and the final pop up is accompanied by a noise "thuck".

A.S.S. says it is normal. I tried with 2-3 Scorps which were there for service, more or less similar issue. .

Another one with my Scorp, after dirving for some time the gear lever is getting unscrewed from the base, I have to keep a tab and tighten it up every now and then, lest it come in my hands while I am trying to change.

Will have it clecked in the second service on Tuesday. The issue has come up after the A.S.S. did up the packing around the gear lever as it was viberating too much and heating up.
no sir, its not normal.

gear lever getting unscrewed? i think its high time your car gets a thorough check-up so that nothing nasty occurs whilst driving.

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I think only to your ears other may differ on this so no point in these kind of comparisons,
sure, when did i say mine is the final verdict!
those who own or have driven the trio may be in a better position to comment.
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Bah, screw the innova and safari. I hate getting second best. I will figure out a way to just insulate this thing myself. And i am going to kill if a solution is not found for the clutch spring.
Ok So if you are interested in a DIY here is a my 2 Paisa bit.
In the mHwack I have seen there is no sound insulation sheet in the bonnet
( I do not know if this is true for all mHwacks or not)

(1) You can go to a Tata A.S.S and buy the Grey color sound insulation sheet meant for Safari bonnet and apply it in your vehicle , As the size is almost same it would be a straight fit.

PS : Do not use the usual ICE sound deadening material such as NoiseKill or Dynamite inside engine bay because they are bitumen based and IMHO will melt due to engine heat.

(2) Go for undrbody dynitrile rust protection tratment , it will reduce the road noise to some extent , 3M costs around 3500 Rs.

(3) See DIY threads in ICE section for door pad sound deadning , People have applied simple rubber sheets , Yogamats etc for cost effective sound deadning.
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sure, when did i say mine is the final verdict!
those who own or have driven the trio may be in a better position to comment.
Well those who sit in rear seat can also tell , I find my office pickup / drop Innova V a lot quieter inside the cabin and car like.

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In the mHwack I have seen there is no sound insulation sheet in the bonnet
( I do not know if this is true for all mHwacks or not)
Is that correct? Does it interfere with the scoop airflow?
My 2.6 CRDe has insulation applied on the underside of the bonnet.

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Is that correct? Does it interfere with the scoop airflow?
My 2.6 CRDe has insulation applied on the underside of the bonnet.
I am not too sure Anup Ji , M&M sales person at vijay auto opened bonnet to show thick sheet metal of bonnet as a feature for demonstrating toughness of the vehicle during test ride of new Scorpio , The first thing I noticed was no Insulation sheet.

I am not too sure that if it was removed or not and if in the customer vehicles they provide it.
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sure, when did i say mine is the final verdict!
those who own or have driven the trio may be in a better position to comment.
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Well those who sit in rear seat can also tell , I find my office pickup / drop Innova V a lot quieter inside the cabin and car like.
i have been in all the three vehicle and have test driven the new look innova and new look mhawk. imho the scorpio was the most silent. the only vibration i could feel was in the gear stick which even the innova has. but talking about silent of all, no doubt the scorpio.
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I am not too sure Anup Ji , M&M sales person at vijay auto opened bonnet to show thick sheet metal of bonnet as a feature for demonstrating toughness of the vehicle during test ride of new Scorpio , The first thing I noticed was no Insulation sheet.

I am not too sure that if it was removed or not and if in the customer vehicles they provide it.
This sheet is present in my car. And thus will be present in all Scorps.

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i have been in all the three vehicle and have test driven the new look innova and new look mhawk. imho the scorpio was the most silent. the only vibration i could feel was in the gear stick which even the innova has. but talking about silent of all, no doubt the scorpio.
I have not test driven the Safari and the Innova. I think I will do this - this week end to get an idea. I really need to get the clutch spring figured out.
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In the mHwack I have seen there is no sound insulation sheet in the bonnet
( I do not know if this is true for all mHwacks or not)


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Is that correct? Does it interfere with the scoop airflow?
My 2.6 CRDe has insulation applied on the underside of the bonnet.
he is kidding anup sir! every scorpio has an insulation in the bonnet.

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i have been in all the three vehicle and have test driven the new look innova and new look mhawk. imho the scorpio was the most silent. the only vibration i could feel was in the gear stick which even the innova has. but talking about silent of all, no doubt the scorpio.
so amit, i am not the only one who thinks so. so my ears are not all that bad!

i almost travel on a daily basis in the scorpio, safari & innova. thats the reason i commented that the scorpio is the most silent. not to start any comparisons.
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Not Kidding see the demo white mHwack at Vijay Moters at Koramangla 80 feet road Bangalore , The sales pitch there is to show the sheet metal thickness to prove the point and there is no insulation sheet under the bonnet I could see the support members ( or whatever is correct technical term for extra metal peaces to make bonnet stiff) and air scoop from below.
Actually I went with a friend to whom I have suggested Scorpio SLE due to ABS and VFM.
Those who are in Bangalore can check out.

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he is kidding anup sir! every scorpio has an insulation in the bonnet.



so amit, i am not the only one who thinks so. so my ears are not all that bad!

i almost travel on a daily basis in the scorpio, safari & innova. thats the reason i commented that the scorpio is the most silent. not to start any comparisons.

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The idiots must have removed them...Vijai auto on K'mangala has shut down by the way...maybe they plucked out the insulation and sold it.
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Hi Raj,

I told the A.S.S. guys the same.

My 2nd Service sheet reads the following

1. RPM Setting
2. Clutch Adjust
3. Tightened Gear lever

No change in the high engine revving
No Change in Clutch Behaviour
Gear leaver is now fine, earlier it was coming loose every few Kms.

Desperately looking for a buyer now . Also awaiting a quote from Mahindra Xmart, they had a look at the vehicle while on service on tuesday.

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no sir, its not normal.

gear lever getting unscrewed? i think its high time your car gets a thorough check-up so that nothing nasty occurs whilst driving.

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Which are the best floor mats for the Scorpio? Can we have some pictures of the ones you guys are using? What kind of material is best suited for filthy shoes most of the time inside the car?

I have already managed the screw up the carpet in the car since I have been delaying the floor mats for quite a while.
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Hi, Go for the transclusent rubber mats they are the best (1900/2000 Rs. for the set). I couldnt get the same so had to make do with the black rubber mats (Rs. 2100), they have already started to tear up from the sides, but the original factory fitted mats and the carpet are good as new.

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Which are the best floor mats for the Scorpio? Can we have some pictures of the ones you guys are using? What kind of material is best suited for filthy shoes most of the time inside the car?

I have already managed the screw up the carpet in the car since I have been delaying the floor mats for quite a while.
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Hi, Go for the transclusent rubber mats they are the best (1900/2000 Rs. for the set). I couldnt get the same so had to make do with the black rubber mats (Rs. 2100), they have already started to tear up from the sides, but the original factory fitted mats and the carpet are good as new.
Day light robbery mate. Are you buying from the ASS? I have these mats (clear transparent / smoke transparent / black) in all my cars and they cost not more than Rs. 700. Black (non transparent ones are cheaper and cost around Rs. 400 - 500 only.
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