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Old 5th September 2013, 12:36   #3586
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The recommended air preasure on the door sticker of the Scorpio says 29/31 psi. When I asked the Tyre Shop Owner he recommended 35 psi, and when I got home and checked with my digital meter the preassure was 37 psi in 2 tyres and 39 psi in the other two. No wonder the ride wasn't too smooth.
What is the recommended pressure for the Scorpio ?
Probably there is nothing more inaccurate than digital air pressure meters. Also, I guess the recommended tyre pressures are cold air pressures which is best measured in the morning with vehicle kept stationery overnight. Like metals, air also expands due to heat. Heat, apart from the vehicle standing in the sun, is also built up when the tyres roll on the road. Hence, mu suggestion will be to bleed any air out only after checking in the morning.

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Okay bought 4 Yokohama Geolander AT-S 235/75/R15 for 26K from Tyre Emporium Malviya Nagar. Got free Balancing and Alignment. On the whole happpy experience. Tomorrow I drive to Chandigarh so will be in a position to give a feedback after this.
The recommended air preasure on the door sticker of the Scorpio says 29/31 psi. When I asked the Tyre Shop Owner he recommended 35 psi, and when I got home and checked with my digital meter the preassure was 37 psi in 2 tyres and 39 psi in the other two. No wonder the ride wasn't too smooth.
What is the recommended pressure for the Scorpio ?
Dear Styler,
The usual recommended pressure is 32 psi. What I do is keep it 31 psi if I have a long drive planned within 24 hours. If there is no long drives in the coming week I keep it to 35 psi. Simply because tyre pressure increases during longer drives.
Also I recommend you to check the tyre pressure on cold tyres. And the pressure value does differ from meter to meter depending upon quality of the meter. Hence I stick to only one as far as possible.

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My 2009 mHawk SLE Scorpio has done 80K kms after 4 and 1/2 years and is out of Shield warranty as well. I was getting it serviced from an ASC after every 5k kms all this while.

Now I am thinking of getting it serviced at every 8-10 Kms from the ASC to reduce the costs. Do you guys think that following this schedule would impact the capability/performance/wear-tear of the vehicle in any way or should the Scorpio be serviced at every 5k kms only?

Any suggestion on Servicing/Imp. things/how-to-tips would be welcome.Thanks in advance...

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Hello everyone!

My 2006 Scorpio crde has done 94000 km and have just got the clutch overhauled with all original M&M parts and the clutch was a dream for the next two months, but off late the clutch has become hard and I am unable to drive in bumper to bumper traffic. The car is single hand driven and I do not ride the clutch.

I would really appreciate any advise as a clutch overhaul is already done, and seem to have no options :(

Tks in advance !

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Dear Experts,

My 2009 mHawk SLE Scorpio has done 80K kms after 4 and 1/2 years and is out of Shield warranty as well. I was getting it serviced from an ASC after every 5k kms all this while.

Now I am thinking of getting it serviced at every 8-10 Kms from the ASC to reduce the costs. Do you guys think that following this schedule would impact the capability/performance/wear-tear of the vehicle in any way or should the Scorpio be serviced at every 5k kms only?

Any suggestion on Servicing/Imp. things/how-to-tips would be welcome.Thanks in advance...
The 5k service is a minor service and I think it costs Rs.600/-. I do not think you want to skip this service to save Rs.600/-. If you strictly instruct the service advisor not to add any thing to the job card other than service, you can come out with a bill of Rs.600/-

You can safely skip a 5k service if you have no complaints needing attention. I skip this service and see no issues because of that. 10k interval should be safe. I skip the service mainly because of the way vehicles are treated at the ASC. Everytime it comes back with grease marks, new scratches and new issues that did not exist before. For me, the less they work on my car, the safer my car is.

Having said that, you should have a keen ear to sense any abnormalities as the vehicle is missing its intermediate checkup. Being a DIY guy helps. Every now and then take some time to inspect the vehicle yourself and also pay attention to sounds and issues that may be cropping up. Somethings can be safely postponed till the service, but if there is anything that needs immediate attention it should be attended. In my view, Scorpio is not prone to issues needing immediate attention and 10k interval is like a cake walk.

End of the day, its your call. If you know what you are doing by skipping a service, you are safe. If you are unsure, better stick to the schedule.

How are you planning for the oil change that needs to be done every 15k km?
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Thanks Vinay for the detailed response and suggestions.

I have always paid upwards of Rs.6000 in every service till date at the dealership, whether oil/filter is changed or not !!! (Rs.2000 being Labour charges only)

The car is used mostly in NCR on good roads and their are no issues till date as any niggling issues were promptly attended to.

I thought Oil/filter is changed every 10k kms and intend to get these replaced at every 10k kms.


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The 5k service is a minor service and I think it costs Rs.600/-. I do not think you want to skip this service to save Rs.600/-. If you strictly instruct the service advisor not to add any thing to the job card other than service, you can come out with a bill of Rs.600/-

You can safely skip a 5k service if you have no complaints needing attention. I skip this service and see no issues because of that. 10k interval should be safe. I skip the service mainly because of the way vehicles are treated at the ASC. Everytime it comes back with grease marks, new scratches and new issues that did not exist before. For me, the less they work on my car, the safer my car is.

Having said that, you should have a keen ear to sense any abnormalities as the vehicle is missing its intermediate checkup. Being a DIY guy helps. Every now and then take some time to inspect the vehicle yourself and also pay attention to sounds and issues that may be cropping up. Somethings can be safely postponed till the service, but if there is anything that needs immediate attention it should be attended. In my view, Scorpio is not prone to issues needing immediate attention and 10k interval is like a cake walk.

End of the day, its your call. If you know what you are doing by skipping a service, you are safe. If you are unsure, better stick to the schedule.

How are you planning for the oil change that needs to be done every 15k km?
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Thanks Vinay for the detailed response and suggestions.

I have always paid upwards of Rs.6000 in every service till date at the dealership, whether oil/filter is changed or not !!! (Rs.2000 being Labour charges only)

The car is used mostly in NCR on good roads and their are no issues till date as any niggling issues were promptly attended to.

I thought Oil/filter is changed every 10k kms and intend to get these replaced at every 10k kms.
I understand that. ASC always tries to add things that are not part of the maintanance schedule. Rs.6000 without oil change and complaints is unnecessary. Oil/Filter interval is 15k, but changing at 10k is good and I do the same. Infact, I get a thorough service done every 20k, every 10k I get only oil/filter changed if I have no complaints. Last oil change I paid around RS.3500 for oil/filter change.
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Dear Experts,

My 2009 mHawk SLE Scorpio has done 80K kms after 4 and 1/2 years and is out of Shield warranty as well. I was getting it serviced from an ASC after every 5k kms all this while.

Now I am thinking of getting it serviced at every 8-10 Kms from the ASC to reduce the costs. Do you guys think that following this schedule would impact the capability/performance/wear-tear of the vehicle in any way or should the Scorpio be serviced at every 5k kms only?

Any suggestion on Servicing/Imp. things/how-to-tips would be welcome.Thanks in advance...
Dear JKBKS,
Those are impressive numbers for a 4.5 year old beast. Kuddos to you and the beast mate. I always felt that the scorpio is a 10K service beast. Regular inspection of the beast. Attention to any irregular noise or uneasy drive should be taken care of immediately. Apart from that the 10k Service should do.

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Hello everyone!

My 2006 Scorpio crde has done 94000 km and have just got the clutch overhauled with all original M&M parts and the clutch was a dream for the next two months, but off late the clutch has become hard and I am unable to drive in bumper to bumper traffic. The car is single hand driven and I do not ride the clutch.

I would really appreciate any advise as a clutch overhaul is already done, and seem to have no options :(

Tks in advance !

Sriraj
Dear Sriraj,
When you say overhaul I hope you mean you replaced the entire clutch assembly. If that is the case then did you see the replaced parts for yourself?

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The 5k service is a minor service and I think it costs Rs.600/-.
Dear Vinay,
Any service at the ASC (apart from free service) costs Rs 2000 or Rs 2800 today. Are you talking about any non-authorized service station here?

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Dear Vinay,
Any service at the ASC (apart from free service) costs Rs 2000 or Rs 2800 today. Are you talking about any non-authorized service station here?
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Hi TheG2,
I was talking about the authorized service centre cost. These are the figures I remember from the board displayed at the ASC though I may be wrong. 5k(25k, 35k etc) service termed as minor service is 600 and 10k service termed as major service is 3000. This is for their checklist of inspections, any parts, consumables, complaints and associated labour is charged extra and that takes the bills up. I heard the major service cost increased from 3000 to 3300, so the minor service cost also might have gone up by 10 or 15%. These are the prices in Hyderabad and they should be similar in other cities as well. While the service charges of other companies include things like the labour charges for oil change, washing etc, at Mahindra these are charged on top of the fixed service charge.

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Hi TheG2,
I was talking about the authorized service centre cost. These are the figures I remember from the board displayed at the ASC though I may be wrong. 5k(25k, 35k etc) service termed as minor service is 600 and 10k service termed as major service is 3000. This is for their checklist of inspections, any parts, consumables, complaints and associated labour is charged extra and that takes the bills up. I heard the major service cost increased from 3000 to 3300, so the minor service cost also might have gone up by 10 or 15%. These are the prices in Hyderabad and they should be similar in other cities as well. While the service charges of other companies include things like the labour charges for oil change, washing etc, at Mahindra these are charged on top of the fixed service charge.

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Now that is a twist Vinay.

All - Kindly confirm if such charging pattern does exists. I never paid anything less than Rs 1200 as standard service charge since so many years of service in Mumbai. Last Service charge at 70k was Rs 2800.

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Now that is a twist Vinay.

All - Kindly confirm if such charging pattern does exists. I never paid anything less than Rs 1200 as standard service charge since so many years of service in Mumbai. Last Service charge at 70k was Rs 2800.

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"1200 as standard service charge", what was included in that? I guess the minor service and some topups. 2800 at 70k service sounds very reasonable to me, seems to be less than the cost of major service which is needed at 70k. Are you sure you gave it for their checklist service or did you give the vehicle asking for a specific job. Last month I asked only for oil change and was charged 2200. The bill included 1.Oil Filter, 2.Oil, 3.Labour for filter change and 4.Labour for oil change.

At 70k service, I paid 15k ish , but that prompted me to be careful with what is included.

Do check the links I've added to my previous post.
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Dear Sriraj,
When you say overhaul I hope you mean you replaced the entire clutch assembly. If that is the case then did you see the replaced parts for yourself?

Hi TheG2,

Thanks for your reply! By over haul I meant clutch plate/ pressure plate and bearing. Is it different from the clutch assembly? What does clutch assembly replacement include? Is it expensive ? Also, is the hardness due to the pedal and the hydraulic system of the pedal, can it be rectified?
I saw the replaced parts as well during the repair.

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"1200 as standard service charge", what was included in that?
Dear Vinay,
This is the standard service charge which they pick pocket during every +5k service. Basically it includes nothing
This was some Rs 1200 couple of years back but now is either Rs 2000 or Rs 2700/2800. Not sure what is the difference since I have never seen anything special done in the service unless and until mentioned.

In the links you have provided and also if you check all your regular service bills, you will notice this as "service charge". All other stuff and specifics are charged separately.

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Hi TheG2,

Thanks for your reply! By over haul I meant clutch plate/ pressure plate and bearing. Is it different from the clutch assembly? What does clutch assembly replacement include? Is it expensive ? Also, is the hardness due to the pedal and the hydraulic system of the pedal, can it be rectified?
I saw the replaced parts as well during the repair.

Thanks!

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Dear Sriraj,
What ever you have changed is what is referred to as clutch assembly by some gurus. I just picked it up from there

Do a small test. Take your beast in an ascending slope where there is no traffic off course. Stop the car, put it in neutral. Now apply first gear and leave the clutch. DO NOT press the accelerator. If the beast picks up smoothly without any shudder then hopefully the clutch is good. If not then it needs immediate attention.

But get the hardness checked by the ASC. Also check your oil levels.


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Hola Folks, I'm happy to be a part of this esteemed community. My first post and I started complaining already. Peace guys, its regarding my Mahindra Scorpio mHawk Sle 2010 which brings to this thread.

Scorpio mHawk SLE was due for service. Exactly a day before I was supposed to give it in for service, I noticed the brakes not performing the way its supposed to. To make you understand better, high speed braking is fine, ABS is also functioning properly as I had tested it on an empty stretch. The problem occurs when I'm at a dead slow speed. Now during extreme bumper to bumper traffic, while hitting the brake pedal, it gives me a very spongy feel and the pedal travels almost all the way down to the floor. In a nutshell, performance of brakes during slow speeds has been affected.

The following day my car was given for service at Koncept Mahindra, Okhla, New Delhi. Got all the fluids changed, tuning, balancing, alignment and the works all done to my satisfaction level. However, they could not rectify this braking issue. Brake pads they say are fine, fluid has been topped up. And later they said poor braking "COULD" be due to faulty ABS which I fail to understand. Tried to make them understand the functionality of ABS but they said the problem could be due to fault in the ABS unit. Are these folks right when saying poor braking could be due to faulty ABS unit? Guys, I need you to pour in your suggestions, recommendations for a good mechanic. I'm not able to use my Scorpio the way I used until few days back. Have been trying to get valuable suggestions from people online and offline both but no luck as yet.

Also, they handed over a bill of Rs. 11810/= after discounts. Damn, maintaining a Mahindra is expensive. All this for a 30,000Km service. My front right suspension's ball joints gave way, bushes in the rear suspension too, wasn't it too early?

P.S. All of the above has been mentioned in another automotive forum by myself however with a different handle so kindly do not assume this to be plagiarism or a spam. I'm in need of urgent help friends.
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.... Are these folks right when saying poor braking could be due to faulty ABS unit? ....
These guys are talking crap!
The problem is with the master cylinder and/or the vacuum unit.
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