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Old 2nd August 2014, 12:42   #3811
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I have a 2003 Non-CRDE Chain Drive Scorpio DX. I have driven it around 1.3 lac kms mostly on the highways, including 2 trips to Leh.

This has been very reliable and I love it because of it's simplicity. No ECU, no electronics, No sensors to keep failing.
It has had it's share of quality control issue like the Brake Booster failing in the first year etc. But after dealing with the Quality control issues in the first few years it has been rock solid.
I was about to swap it for the new Mhawk but a mechanic friend advised me to keep this, as the new Scorpios will be riddled with niggles of electronics, sensors, clutch etc.
HVK sir has done over 3.5 lac kms in a similar scorpio and that gives me confidence to keep this.
My other vehicle is a Toyota Camry 2008 Automatic, and I don't need to mention the service quality of Toyota. There is no Comparison.

Now that it is almost time to change the Scorpio my primary requirement is a reliable vehicle. With all the Gizmos and sensors of XUV and in the new gen Scorpios I will not consider these. If mahindra sticks to the basics to make simple reliable vehicles instead of adding gadgets and gizmos which keep failing I will consider a Mahindra.
If the new Scorpio comes out, and it has base mode with no gizmos & sensors I will consider it. Else it's bye bye to Mahindra till they figure out their reliability issues in their gadgets and gizmos.

What are the options, I might go in for a used Fortuner for about 12-14 lacs or I may go in for a new Duster / or even an Innova.


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Old 2nd August 2014, 16:35   #3812
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I have a 5.5 year old 4wd scorp.

Of late I have noticed that the car backside slips to one side (left) rather badly when you brake and go over a rumble strip - so much so that it has become a safety hazard. This is in standard 2wd operations.

where should I start looking for problems?

It had a high speed accident about two months back - spun out of control on a rubble track which came out of nowhere after good road - jumped off the road, into a ditch, hit a concrete wall and stopped - front bumper smashed - however the driver insists that this problem predates it / although it is hard to confirm this truth. He infact insists that the accident had something to do with the backside slipping when he least expected on this rubble track.

I have sent it to Mahindra ASC in Noida - although looking at their last year performance, I am very scared that I will hear everything requires a change - and a bill of 60K.

any help - guidance much appreciated.

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I have a 5.5 year old 4wd scorp.

Of late I have noticed that the car backside slips to one side (left) rather badly when you brake and go over a rumble strip - so much so that it has become a safety hazard. This is in standard 2wd operations.

where should I start looking for problems?

It had a high speed accident about two months back - spun out of control on a rubble track which came out of nowhere after good road - jumped off the road, into a ditch, hit a concrete wall and stopped - front bumper smashed - however the driver insists that this problem predates it / although it is hard to confirm this truth. He infact insists that the accident had something to do with the backside slipping when he least expected on this rubble track.

I have sent it to Mahindra ASC in Noida - although looking at their last year performance, I am very scared that I will hear everything requires a change - and a bill of 60K.

any help - guidance much appreciated.

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I think the first thing to check would be to the Brake Wheel Cylenders for the rear wheels, and the calipers of the front wheels. If any of these is stuck or faulty it can cause this kind of issue.
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I have a 5.5 year old 4wd scorp.

Of late I have noticed that the car backside slips to one side (left) rather badly when you brake and go over a rumble strip - so much so that it has become a safety hazard. This is in standard 2wd operations.

where should I start looking for problems?

It had a high speed accident about two months back - spun out of control on a rubble track which came out of nowhere after good road - jumped off the road, into a ditch, hit a concrete wall and stopped - front bumper smashed - however the driver insists that this problem predates it / although it is hard to confirm this truth. He infact insists that the accident had something to do with the backside slipping when he least expected on this rubble track.

I have sent it to Mahindra ASC in Noida - although looking at their last year performance, I am very scared that I will hear everything requires a change - and a bill of 60K.

any help - guidance much appreciated.

Cheers
You can have the rear shock absorbers checked physically after removing them from the vehicle. I hope one of them has not been removed altogether during the accident repair job.
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I have a 2003 Non-CRDE Chain Drive Scorpio DX. I have driven it around 1.3 lac kms mostly on the highways, including 2 trips to Leh.

This has been very reliable and I love it because of it's simplicity. No ECU, no electronics, No sensors to keep failing.
It has had it's share of quality control issue like the Brake Booster failing in the first year etc. But after dealing with the Quality control issues in the first few years it has been rock solid.
I was about to swap it for the new Mhawk but a mechanic friend advised me to keep this, as the new Scorpios will be riddled with niggles of electronics, sensors, clutch etc.
HVK sir has done over 3.5 lac kms in a similar scorpio and that gives me confidence to keep this.
My other vehicle is a Toyota Camry 2008 Automatic, and I don't need to mention the service quality of Toyota. There is no Comparison.

Now that it is almost time to change the Scorpio my primary requirement is a reliable vehicle. With all the Gizmos and sensors of XUV and in the new gen Scorpios I will not consider these. If mahindra sticks to the basics to make simple reliable vehicles instead of adding gadgets and gizmos which keep failing I will consider a Mahindra.
If the new Scorpio comes out, and it has base mode with no gizmos & sensors I will consider it. Else it's bye bye to Mahindra till they figure out their reliability issues in their gadgets and gizmos.

What are the options, I might go in for a used Fortuner for about 12-14 lacs or I may go in for a new Duster / or even an Innova.


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Hi!

Nice to hear about your well maintained, high mileage Scorpio. I feel that a second hand vehicle will never be as reliable as a new one. Toyota's reliability is bullet proof, which is case enough for the Innova. But considering your kind of use, I think waiting for the 4x4 Duster which is expected by the end of the year, makes most sense.

Cheers!
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Guys, need help cleaning the air filter. I traveled through a lot of dusty roads last weekend and was thinking of cleaning it D-I-Y instead of taking it to an FNG. Any pics/guides from anyone who has done it before?

Cleaned the AC filter, though now it seems to be the paper type. Had read the earlier comments which mentioned it being a wire mesh type, similar to what we have in the home ACs. Thinking of swapping it with the wire mesh one on the change schedule, I hope that availability is not a problem?
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Guys, need help cleaning the air filter. I traveled through a lot of dusty roads last weekend and was thinking of cleaning it D-I-Y instead of taking it to an FNG. Any pics/guides from anyone who has done it before?

Cleaned the AC filter, though now it seems to be the paper type. Had read the earlier comments which mentioned it being a wire mesh type, similar to what we have in the home ACs. Thinking of swapping it with the wire mesh one on the change schedule, I hope that availability is not a problem?
Cleaning Air Filters is not difficult.
However, Scorpios come with different types of Filters. The old-gen SCorpio comes with a Cone type paper filter where the cover has to be taken off with a star screw driver.
But the new-gen Scorpios have a different design and I found that they use allen bolts in the cover.
You can either air-clean it with you own air inflator or else take it to the nearest puncture wala, open up the air filter case & get it air-cleaned
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Cleaning Air Filters is not difficult.
However, Scorpios come with different types of Filters. The old-gen SCorpio comes with a Cone type paper filter where the cover has to be taken off with a star screw driver.
But the new-gen Scorpios have a different design and I found that they use allen bolts in the cover.
You can either air-clean it with you own air inflator or else take it to the nearest puncture wala, open up the air filter case & get it air-cleaned
Yes Chief, while its easy to open the top rectangular portion, the circled pipe is what I am finding difficult to open. The top cover won't come off without it.

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Yes Chief, while its easy to open the top rectangular portion, the circled pipe is what I am finding difficult to open. The top cover won't come off without it.

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That is just the MAF sensor, you can unclip it and clip it back on after cleaning. you can remove the hose by removing the silver clamp at the top lid end, but ensure you remove the battery negative terminal before you remove/insert the sensor plug.
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That is just the MAF sensor, you can unclip it and clip it back on after cleaning. you can remove the hose by removing the silver clamp at the top lid end, but ensure you remove the battery negative terminal before you remove/insert the sensor plug.
That's the thing. The nut holding the 'clip' in place refuses to budge, maybe it's tightened too much. I'll try again and update.
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Don't use a Philips head screw driver to remove it, I have seen that the bolt jams and the clip starts to flex. Use a T spanner or ring spanner while holding the clamp(Flat plate sort of thing) with a plier to avoid damage.

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Dear Dry Ice
Talking about the air conditioner filter that is located concealed in the plastic cladding under the wipers, it's a paper type filter and a wire mesh is located a little further inside the ducts once the paper type filter is removed. However the wire mesh provided is of a coarse gauge and serves more to prevent entry of rodents inside the air conditioning system rather than filter the air. For the paper type filter squeeze the edges of the plastic frame towards each other and unship the filter. Then you can clean it and reinstall. A well done job shall be indicated by an increase in air flow in the 'fresh air' mode of the air conditioner.
Even though this is a routine job to be carried out by the ASC every time. They, more often than not, skip it because it involves removal of the wipers and paraphernalia.
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The clutch slave issue still persists. Our company had purchased two Scorpios on 4th February 2014. VLX in 2WD and one had a clutch failure around 10 days ago and another had one, today. Both are near the 30,000kms mark.
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The clutch slave issue still persists. Our company had purchased two Scorpios on 4th February 2014. VLX in 2WD and one had a clutch failure around 10 days ago and another had one, today. Both are near the 30,000kms mark.
It's strange why they havent been able to resolve this in a few years. The clutch slave failure issue has been there in Scorpios since 2009. I own a Non-Crde Scorpio which has been reliable apart from the small niggles.
Now that it is almost time to change my SUV, I am not even considering another Mahindra due to the unreliability of the new age Mahindra Vehickes.
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I have two strange issues with my 60K run Scorpio M Hawk VLX 4WD.

1) Of late I have been noticing that there is this strange humming, buzzing sort of noise coming from the area highlighted in the image below. It emanates after the vehicle has run for around 50-60 kms and is audible after the engine is switched off. With the engine running, the noise can not be heard. The noise stays on for sometime even after ignition is turned off and key is removed and goes off on its own after around 5-10 mins. The noise and vibration can be felt in the MAF sensor hose and the air intake. But, the driving character and feel of the vehicle is as it is and I don't feel anything amiss. Can someone please point me to the right cause?
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2) There is this gut gut type of noise coming from the AC blower motor when it is run. The MASS identified it as bushings gone bad in the motor shaft. As per the AC technician, there are two bushes, top and bottom, at the end of the shaft and they need replacement. But, ASC does not repair blower motors and I was advised to get the entire blower motor assembly replaced for around Rs 6.5K. Can someone throw some light whether the bushes can be replaced outside?

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